thank you for your understanding.

As I’ve always been a poster child for Dedicated Scientologist (staff, trained, OT etc) it helps that I moved away from a close org. I use that as a handy excuse for not being on service. I should move even further. 🙂

I’m glad Flag is so far away. I always hated the Palmetto bugs all over Flag.

(in the old days we used to watch them crawl up the walls while making sentences on course)

I have no beef with anyone who wants to do scn. I just want to be able to speak freely and have the lies and abuses laid bare. Mike and Leah and the others are doing a smashing job. I love all the books that rip the veil away.

So I wish all the best to you too.

Your inbox is full so cannot forward Nickname’s email address to you.

Beautiful, Nickname.

Nickname – There you go. For those of us who DID have gains and see that there is value in the actual tech, that was beautiful.

I believe it is in the “Handbook for Preclears” where Ron talks about there being two sides to this. That some people think that auditing will, (paraphrased here) be a substitute for living life.They get auditing and auditing but don’t go out and experience life or do anything WITH the auditing or training that they have.

It’s very similar to what you’re saying about ethics and that a person has to chart their own course that way.

Also, as far as the tech itself, remember how he talked about the cultural comm lag? That it takes about 50 years for people to catch up with hew tech or inventions?

Well, I am sort of seeing that about the whole Xenu thing. “Ohhh! Ohhhh! Hubbard’s lost his MIND. Xenu indeed!” then you look at how many people are hungrily for all the “Ancient Aliens” stuff and the many more who have specific details about that time period and the war time activities. Not to mention the “Emerald Tablets” of Toth. Toth actually talks a lot about mountains and such. Very interesting.

The more I read/watch about the Ancient Sumerian texts, the more I feel that Ron researched in that vault too. Makes one wonder how much of the tech comes from these sources. “The Gods of Eden” is a very telling book about some of these things. By William Brawley, I think it is. LRH is even credited in the bibliography. Fascinating.

Anyway, thanks again for your significant (in a good way) response to my post. Well said.

And great to talk with you again, too! If you want to write me directly, Mike might be convinced to give you my direct email. 🙂

Talk soon, either way!

indie8million

I see. 🙂 Well now THAT’s perfectly clear.

I was kust trying to be encouraging IF you wanted to continue the auditing without the ridiculous duress.

Unfortunately, like I said later in this post, most people have only had Misgavology, not Scientology. Unfortunate.

However, having said that, and having had the experience of having an out of comm auditor and sh*t processes run on me late in the game (and wondering what was wrong with me because NONE of it caused any wins) I understand and empathize with your feelings about it.

So congrats that you’re able to be out and not let anyone know. I’m in the same boat. Nobody knows I’m out and they for sure don’t know that I’ve been getting auditing from a real OT VIII/Class 8 for the last 7 years. lol Best auditing I’ve had in a VERY long time. Whew.

And I agree with you. I’m never letting on until or unless I’m outted because I’m not ever going to let them do that to me, no sir. F you DM, and the bottle of Scotch you floated in on.

In the meantime, I’ll just keep planting seeds and helping people get out.

Have a great journey Secret for Now. It’s all in front of you.

Thanks Nickname. I circle back here whenever my orbit is close enough…sort of like Nibiru – except there’s more proof of me. lol

Aquamarine – I so know what you mean about busy. Whew !! Here too!

Man, I so know what you mean about hoping they see the abuse quickly. I have thought the same things with my friends. Hoping against hope that it happens sooner rather than later.

At least, in that way, the overall suffering is cut short. So, see, your motives are still pure for your beloved young person. Let’s hope.

I will DIE before I ever pick up the cans again. I would walk out into traffic. I would step into the jaws of a frothing lion. I will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER AGAIN subject myself to any of it.

EVER.

I went to the top and I almost went insane. It was awful.

……..
um, no thank you.

I’m no longer honest. I will lie through my teeth and pretend. I won’t let them take away my family or livelihood. Someday I may be able to stand in the light, but I won’t let them have anything before I want to give it.

ENOUGH!

indie8million – Good to see you back here, too!