Agreed to a point, but as many have mentioned here, the “older ones” may never wise up and get the picture…..they don’t want to loose what they THINK they have…….and some are at “8”……they surely won’t give up now.
I am.so glad many of you have made your exit, started life anew, and saved yourselves money, frustration, time, and a distaste for Kool Aide.

I’ve read it in Kiplilng as well, IIRC. The Australian version is said to derive from the word “golliwog” which was a black minstrel character in a book in the 1800s. The British version was used to denote darker skinned people from the Middle East or India. While the exact etymology is not clear, it is definitely derogatory and racial in overtone. It was a kind of British version of the “n” word. But nothing I’ve heard about LRH showed he was the least bit sensitive to people. I’m just surprised it stuck.

L Yash, at this point in time anyone who would “do the bridge” is prone to be suckered by any stupid scam. One cannot live in the modern world and NOT know it is a scam.

Thanks a ton Bruce. I suppose you’re right. Scientologists seem to be programmed to not even question LRH or the “church” in any way, shape, or form whatsoever (that also seems to apply to a handful of people of many other faiths, including my own). Applying logic and reason to matters of religious philosophy would be more “science” than “faith”. The one difference that I can see though, is that Scientology claims to be more “science-based” as opposed to “faith-based”.

Also, you wrote: “It [Scientology taking over the world] won’t be a tyranny to rival the Soviet Union or the czars or the Third Reich. No! It will be the tyranny of the rational, the pure, the enlightened.”

That’s a problem in and of itself. Stalin and Hitler, as well as their minions, truly “believed” that they were not tyrannical, but were “the rational, the pure, and the enlightened.” That’s the danger in absolute conviction of one’s own beliefs without question.

As for your last paragraph? Absolutely perfect. I couldn’t agree more. Thank you again.

I personally believe that reincarnation does not happen at all, at least not in another physical body on Earth. I have many doubts about all beliefs pertaining to the afterlife, even my own practice of Christianity. Unfortunately, the only individuals who know for sure are the ones that have already passed (and they may not even be capable of “knowing” anything anymore for that matter).

If 9 & 10 IS added….does that mean the Bridge has suddenly been “extended” so now of course it will take long and cost a Hell of a lot MORE $$$$ to fully cross that bridge to “Total Freedom”.??? I smell a rat, and see more $$$ going in to line someone’s pockets…..too sad.

In the movie ,Lawerrnce Of Arabia.A British officer is outraged that Lawerrnce, brought a “wog” into the officers bar.

Mick, applying logic and reason to Scientology? Really? Might as well explain to your kitty why she has to go to the vet. It will never make sense to her and she will never willingly enter the pet carrier. Possibly she will find the sound of your voice droning on and on soothing but she sees right through the deception when you try to get her into the car.

As usual, Hubbard explained it different ways at different times, often contradicting himself. There is a lecture where he talks about taking over the mental health business. In “Science of Survival” he talks about “disposing quietly and without sorrow” of those who are chronically hostile, sad, apathetic or antagonistic. Sounds more like the philosophy of the re-education camp guard than a great humanitarian. But even if you kill off all the SPs won’t they just come back? Or are you hoping that they will all spend a few lifetimes as crocodiles or black widow spiders and you won’t have to deal with them? Not explained and I don’t think he had a clue.

Later on he crowed that he had solved insanity, that he “looked into the black clinker that you suppressives call a soul” and discovered how to redeem a suppressive person. The Expanded Dianetics and Introspection Rundowns come from this imagined great insight. The Lisa McPherson tragedy is an example of how well it works.

So to answer your question, the vague hope is that once many have achieved the state of Clear that reason will reign. The pesky problems like insanity, suppressive persons, poverty, crime and war will be solved rationally. No more petty in-fighting and bickering, once there are Scientologist Presidents, legislators, judges, doctors, dentists and chiropractors everywhere the new day will dawn.

We laugh at the geriatric porch-sitters, but with Miscavige in charge over the whole world they will burst forth from their impotent back-ally Ideal Orgs and impose their will in true 100% cold chromium steel Hubbard approved fashion. “Never fear to hurt another in a just cause!” will ring out across the land.

It won’t be a tyranny to rival the Soviet Union or the czars or the Third Reich. No! It will be the tyranny of the rational, the pure, the enlightened. More like the French Revolution, where they reinvented measurements, redesigned the calendar and scientifically designed humane and swift instruments of execution. The guillotine was pressed into service to effectively remove the irrational, recidivist, counter-revolutionary elements in 18th century France and so it will be in the Scientology worker’s paradise that they imagine.

As for me, let me live as long as I have to live in the messy, misaligned, glorious and trashy real world. If someone does not agree with me I do not have the immediate impulse to put an end to them. I’m funny that way. Who knows, someone who does not agree with me might have something to teach me that I need to know. But in any case I can always try to enlighten them as well and the world grows that way. Not a paradise or a circle of Hell, just folks trying to get by and help each other as best they can.

Only if I can have OSD. 🙂

A person is a spiritual being, a belief held by many if not most religious philosophies. For this one, the belief is that negative characteristics as well as positive are part of the person’s makeup. When they reappear in a new body, it is always possible that the person may lead a cleaner life and have better aspirations than last time. Or they may retain their ‘suppressiveness’. What do you believe?