I don’t think it will dissapear John. I think it will morph. There is a validity to looking within to find knowledge and causes of experience.

I think the thing that makes Scientology so crazy making is that there are benefits to it. But there is evil in it also. Things that gives false justification to harming critics.
And also from the standpoint of truth, Scientology’s cosmology, is not a respected or even considered by the wise to be true.

The cosmology of implants, OT3, BTs etc are false perceptions of the nature of life.

Just because charge blows does not mean that the mental imagery associated with that charge blowing is true.

The forms of Ron’s cosmology are an admixture of his SCi Fi interests and his unconscious.

Not knowing the true structure and nature of the mind, he allowed his imagination to convince himself that the imagination was truth. What locked in this false belief system was needle reactions.

Ron was investigating concepts, mind and thoughts. What a great thing to do. But he did not have a teacher to help him when his direction of research went astray.

His ideas of alleviating suffering by directly perceiving associated chains of events and thus basic cause of experiences is beneficial.

But because he did not have a firm foundation in spiritual knowledge and actually invalidated all other teachings but his, he entered into the subconscious mind unprepared. And thus he, at the end of his life, was howling at the moon.

The man who preached total freedom was not a free man. Nor did he find the road out.

How could he? As Trey Lots recently said to me: “at the end of his life LRH was Type 3”

Think about that. Really think about that lol!

I agree with you to a degree Indie. Yes DM is the current person harming critics.

As an Indie, Indie, since Ron’s influence is not dead, but alive in the written word, how will Indies avoid following some of Ron’s written words that harm people.

I’ve asked this question at Milestone 2 and was shunned and asked to not come back:

Are you willing to denounce those writtings from Ron that cause damage. For instance: all critics are criminals etc.

What say you?

Well said and correct Brian. The upshot being that Scn is nothing but a reflection of the criminal mind of El Con. The sooner it completely disappears the better for mankind.

Oh man. Mr. E.B has a crashing MU. Doesn’t know which Shelly they’re talking about. Too new in. Or just playing stupid.

“Chill E.B. @Chill_EB · Apr 23

Where’s Shelly? Read: http://tl.gd/n_1slteni ”

Shelly MISCAVIGE, Chill E.B.!

Maybe someone should link this to his twitter and clear his MU? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2564168/The-truth-Scientologys-vanished-queen-How-leaders-lonely-devoted-wife-banished-secretive-base-defying-orders.html

Also, where’s Heber? That’s the one that really got me. ‘Yeah, where IS Heber?” Of course Chille E. B. never met Heber. Heber was in the hole when Chill E.B. first took the stage for CCHR (and then IAS, after they stole him from CCHR).

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/07/scientology_david_jentzsch_heber.php

And this. Somebody has to get word to him. He may be able to say, “Y’all Busted” about the whole thing, if someone gets him the right information. One can dream. Norman Berry is ex military and not so stupid.

http://www.freeheber.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

Yep, SM.

Eloquently said. Appreciated.

Ron may have started it – no doubt he did – but he’s gone now. DM is the only one we can do anything about at this point. Spending energy on rehashing what Ron did to find out how the automobile of Scientology got broken only takes away from the energy needed to change the right parts or to build a better Scientology in the field right now, IMHO.

With respect, Brian.

…a horse’s IQ is 50.

You guys have so much fun with cynical. 😉

Some people think they’re worth something… http://fineart.ha.com/artist-index/frank-frazetta.s?id=500111285

So not ALL of it was a ruse. Frazetta is well known and well thought of. I still think they are great paintings.

Yawwwwwwn. Thanks, Mike.