I understand.

mwestern, you couldn’t be more correct. “Full Responsibility” for everyone is a utopian dream, totally impossible. In my comment I assumed that this was understood. M

My first point was that if it WERE possible – which it isn’t – but IF it were possible for each of us, individually and together, to apply this datum and be fully responsible for everything there would be heaven on earth, utopia, paradise because each of us singly and together would be actively, at all times, creating it.

My other point was that “Full Responsibility” when only practiced by SOME and not others is at best unworkable and at worst extremely suppressive and cruel and unfair to those practising it because it allows rest to skate by, finger point and blame.

In other words if you and I are interacting on some level, if we are in a friendship or some other close continual association, and you are by dint of great awareness and ability practicing “Full Responsibility” and I am NOT, but instead sitting back and letting YOU be responsible for whatever happens (mistake-wise) and not taking any responsibility (for anything that goes wrong) MYSELF, well then that would be an extremely suppressive relationship – to YOU. VERY harmful to you – it would damage you.

And your points about agreement on many variables i.e, individual morality, and what words like “evil” mean, etc. are of course totally on the money – there would have to be 100% total agreement between everyone on many , many variables!

My comment was just a mere musing. It wasn’t fleshed out as it ought to have been.

No worries. My point was simply that, in practice at least, it sounds more dystopian than utopian.

Exactly 🙂

At any given time:
Whatever YOU want that they DON’T want or care about
OR
Whatever you DON’T want that THEY want =

“Other Determined”…”Dilettantism”…”Other Fish To Fry”.

Well, since leaving Scientology I’ve been frying plenty of other fish, quite tastily, thank you, cult!

Thanks, Jere 🙂

mwestern, I agree with you. “FULL Responsibility” practised by each of us and all of us is impossible, a utopian ideal. Unobtainable.

In writing what I did I erred in assuming that it was understood that this was and is impossible.

My point was that IF it WERE possible earth would be a paradise because WE, individually and together, would be creating it that way.

And then, I also didn’t point out that with only SOME people striving to practice full responsibility and the the rest NOT practicing it and instead sitting back and playing the blame game, “Full Responsibility” in that scenario actually a suppressive mechanism, a controlling mechanism perpetrated on those practicing it by those not practicing it!

In brief I agree fully with all your points and my comment was a mere musing along the line of “what if”.

Yes. I think you are correct. The Scienos would blame it on the psych. But only from the 10th floor down to the 1st floor.

They would blame the jumper for what happened from the 1st floor down to SPLATT!!! They would claim that the jumper pulled that in.

But that would be one Hell of a lot of SPLATT to pull in. Don’t ‘cha think?

KER PLUNK!!

Hubs talked a great game, but he walked an entirely opposite direction. It seemed that his power as a sorcerer was measured by the number of people he enslaved, how many women he “raped without them knowing it”.

The OSA goons MIGHT be reading, but they have other fish to fry before chasing after and harassing mere blog participants. They probably realize that an SP declare would give most of us relief rather than terror. We’re CLEAR of that threat and the false ‘ethics’ it rode in on.