Great comment Oracle, thank you. Very well stated!

There are so many cool techniques. And that is one of the reason I got pissed at Ron. He claimed to be the only one to teach people how to go within and resolve suffering. I am here to say hogwash! There is a rich supply of techniques and approaches. I am all for free investigation with any approach. But I am a furious madman against “only way isms” because they deceive people into slave like obedience, afraid to loose their “only hope”. That is a spiritual crime in my opinion.

To me Oracle, you are a true Scientologist. You have made it your own in your own searching of knowing how to know. To some it is Hubbard-ology only.

😉

Everyday at Int!

Well, you have certainly had an interesting life!

I experienced that sort of ecstasy, a feeling of very intense joy, after I started getting auditing on original OT 7. That was very recently. Rather abused me of all the notions one had to go to confession to get real happy. I was a little too happy when I got involved with Scientology.

“All hands stuff envelopes? No way how depressing!”

Not sure why anyone would suggest implants or whatever as a result of your experience. But I recall telling people things I experienced and them attributing it to drugs I had taken, even if said I was exterior!

“I’m so exterior”

“Well, you need your purif”

I weighed like 92 pound at 5’5″ at that time. Like what fatty cells were drugs hidden in?

But I did always have a sense that nobody else was taking the Scientology experiences as I was, and vice versa.

You know, that is the same as someone going, “I spoke to God yesterday and he told me to preserver.” And the person listening going, “Oh you must have misunderstood him.”

When I read the OT3 materials I didn’t get so literal about it. Hubbard was talking about his experience. I was always aware of other influences though, especially having a lot of track in Asia, ancestors and so on. I knew they were there and even wanted them there. I found, the people still stuck to me, we have a love issue on some level. That made a lot of sense because we were occupying the same space. I just audited the ones that seemed sad or worse, got to a point where I was contacting “BTs” that were in better shape than I was. Some had floating TA’s. Not me. I didn’t feel good about bothering with a good thing, or someone that was in such good case shape, so, they are still here and I enjoy their company.

Communication is a two way thing. So, people really do not “talk to themselves” or, “have conversations with themselves” the way I see it.

Anyway, luckily I was doing it outside of the Church and did not have to argue my point of view.

I did do all of the steps on the grade chart in exact order though, including OT preps. Up to that point.

I’ve done some things I wasn’t supposed to do since then, but it has worked out great for me.

As far as your goal for getting involved with Scientology, I think you wouldn’t have a goal that is not truly attainable. You have to know about it before you want it again, Kind of like a lover.

For an area of activity dedicated to the Supernatural, there are a lot of people in it that do not have a comm line into the supernatural. It is a parallel universe. A lot of people exploring Scientology tend to discount and invalidate anything invisible. Kind of weird. But someone such as yourself may have gotten wrong indications and wrong items that set you up losses.

I have a feeling you will be able to get it all worked out, whatever path you choose.

Best then,

T.O.

I think it’s what you resisit you become. Thanks Greta

Thank you Dan

No man has a monopoly on truth. Sound familiar?

No man has a monopoly on truth. Sound familiar?