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		By: hiatus57		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2014 17:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-auditors-made/#comment-50160&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Normal St Hill public would be the Smith and Jones type. Shabby looking desperate, hungry, lean, 1000 Yard stare etc etc. LOL]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-auditors-made/#comment-50160">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Normal St Hill public would be the Smith and Jones type. Shabby looking desperate, hungry, lean, 1000 Yard stare etc etc. LOL</p>
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		By: hiatus57		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2014 17:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-auditors-made/#comment-50165&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

It was a rhetorical remark LOL, nice to see you still remember :))))))))))))))))))))))))]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-auditors-made/#comment-50165">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>It was a rhetorical remark LOL, nice to see you still remember :))))))))))))))))))))))))</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2014 21:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-auditors-made/#comment-50150&quot;&gt;hiatus57&lt;/a&gt;.

Technical Degrades: 

&lt;em&gt;8. Boasting as to speed of delivery in a session, such as “I put in Grade zero in 3 minutes.” Etc.

9. Shortening time of application of auditing for financial or laborsaving considerations.&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-auditors-made/#comment-50150">hiatus57</a>.</p>
<p>Technical Degrades: </p>
<p><em>8. Boasting as to speed of delivery in a session, such as “I put in Grade zero in 3 minutes.” Etc.</p>
<p>9. Shortening time of application of auditing for financial or laborsaving considerations.</em></p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2014 21:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-auditors-made/#comment-50152&quot;&gt;hiatus57&lt;/a&gt;.

Not sure what &quot;normal&quot; is supposed to look like.... Many of the names appear to be Eastern Bloc type names and I know they have promoted heavily to Eastern Europe and Russia for a long time, poaching on AOSHEU.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-auditors-made/#comment-50152">hiatus57</a>.</p>
<p>Not sure what &#8220;normal&#8221; is supposed to look like&#8230;. Many of the names appear to be Eastern Bloc type names and I know they have promoted heavily to Eastern Europe and Russia for a long time, poaching on AOSHEU.</p>
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		By: hiatus57		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2014 20:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike

You will also note that when it comes to the important parts like the OT levels they do not look like the normal St Hill public of Smith and Jones do they?

I suspect they bus them in from the EU, and if so what is going on in the EU Orgs?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike</p>
<p>You will also note that when it comes to the important parts like the OT levels they do not look like the normal St Hill public of Smith and Jones do they?</p>
<p>I suspect they bus them in from the EU, and if so what is going on in the EU Orgs?</p>
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		By: hiatus57		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2014 20:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike,

What was that PL that talked about &quot;boasting as to speed of delivery&quot; that used to be at the front of every pack?
LOL]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>What was that PL that talked about &#8220;boasting as to speed of delivery&#8221; that used to be at the front of every pack?<br />
LOL</p>
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		By: Cotch		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2014 22:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the info RV I just saw your comment.  

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info RV I just saw your comment.  </p>
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		By: Sarah James		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2014 02:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-auditors-made/#comment-49828&quot;&gt;Cooper J Kessel&lt;/a&gt;.

+1]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-auditors-made/#comment-49828">Cooper J Kessel</a>.</p>
<p>+1</p>
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		By: Chee Chalker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2014 02:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-auditors-made/#comment-49827&quot;&gt;Bystander&lt;/a&gt;.

Ok Mike, fair enough. (btw, this reply is to you and not Bystander, but sometimes you can&#039;t reply to someone directly because there is no &quot;Reply&quot; button in the response box). First off, I think everyone is flawed, it is the nature of man to be flawed, so LRH is not alone there.  Second, I agree with you 100%, I think Miscavige takes narcissism to a whole new level.  But where you and I diverge on our walk together is whether or not LRH was concerned for others.  You knew him, whereas I did not, so I am sure there are personal feelings of good will toward him on your part.  It&#039;s just almost everything I have read about him is so incredibly negative and the only positive things I have read are his accomplishments, many of which are untrue or exaggerated.

There just seems to be a lot of justification for LRH&#039;s behavior by some of the Indies,  ie. he did the things he had to do to ensure Scientology survived.  The only problem with that train of thought is that Miscavige&#039;s camp can use the same argument....that cob is doing what he has to do so the Co$ survives in the age of the Internet.

One thing I like about your blog is that you post comments from all sides, from the never-ins who don&#039;t understand LRH to the exs who hate cob but still follow LRH, to the trolls who think that cob is a &quot;pretty cool guy&quot;. (I saw that comment a while back on your blog, or at least I think it was your blog....I laughed and laughed becuase if there is one word I would never use to describe David Miscavige, it would be &quot;cool&quot;).   

My own personal assessment is that LRH may have wanted to help people on some level, but he desperately needed  to be recognized in his own lifetime as a genius.  And when that did not happen, he went after those who challenged him.   It seems that throughout his life he was suffering from some mental illness and/ depression, he recognized it  and he self medicated. 

There  are many examples of LRH&#039;s vengeful behavior that it is difficult for us &quot;never-ins&quot; to understand the loyalty of nice, intelligent people like you, Jeff Hawkins, Tory Christman, etc. etc.....the list is too long to write out.

Whereas cob is truly a frightening individual......truly sociopathic.  Though it is said that sociopaths can be charming individuals.  

Thanks for your respsonse...as always, I enjoy your insight 

Chew io!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-auditors-made/#comment-49827">Bystander</a>.</p>
<p>Ok Mike, fair enough. (btw, this reply is to you and not Bystander, but sometimes you can&#8217;t reply to someone directly because there is no &#8220;Reply&#8221; button in the response box). First off, I think everyone is flawed, it is the nature of man to be flawed, so LRH is not alone there.  Second, I agree with you 100%, I think Miscavige takes narcissism to a whole new level.  But where you and I diverge on our walk together is whether or not LRH was concerned for others.  You knew him, whereas I did not, so I am sure there are personal feelings of good will toward him on your part.  It&#8217;s just almost everything I have read about him is so incredibly negative and the only positive things I have read are his accomplishments, many of which are untrue or exaggerated.</p>
<p>There just seems to be a lot of justification for LRH&#8217;s behavior by some of the Indies,  ie. he did the things he had to do to ensure Scientology survived.  The only problem with that train of thought is that Miscavige&#8217;s camp can use the same argument&#8230;.that cob is doing what he has to do so the Co$ survives in the age of the Internet.</p>
<p>One thing I like about your blog is that you post comments from all sides, from the never-ins who don&#8217;t understand LRH to the exs who hate cob but still follow LRH, to the trolls who think that cob is a &#8220;pretty cool guy&#8221;. (I saw that comment a while back on your blog, or at least I think it was your blog&#8230;.I laughed and laughed becuase if there is one word I would never use to describe David Miscavige, it would be &#8220;cool&#8221;).   </p>
<p>My own personal assessment is that LRH may have wanted to help people on some level, but he desperately needed  to be recognized in his own lifetime as a genius.  And when that did not happen, he went after those who challenged him.   It seems that throughout his life he was suffering from some mental illness and/ depression, he recognized it  and he self medicated. </p>
<p>There  are many examples of LRH&#8217;s vengeful behavior that it is difficult for us &#8220;never-ins&#8221; to understand the loyalty of nice, intelligent people like you, Jeff Hawkins, Tory Christman, etc. etc&#8230;..the list is too long to write out.</p>
<p>Whereas cob is truly a frightening individual&#8230;&#8230;truly sociopathic.  Though it is said that sociopaths can be charming individuals.  </p>
<p>Thanks for your respsonse&#8230;as always, I enjoy your insight </p>
<p>Chew io!</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2014 00:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-auditors-made/#comment-49952&quot;&gt;Chee Chalker&lt;/a&gt;.

Hmmm, I have a different take on this.

I believe LRH was a very flawed man. I also believe he had intention to help others and some compassion for others. He had an interest in OTHERS.

This does not enter Miscavige&#039;s universe. His world is all about HIM.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-auditors-made/#comment-49952">Chee Chalker</a>.</p>
<p>Hmmm, I have a different take on this.</p>
<p>I believe LRH was a very flawed man. I also believe he had intention to help others and some compassion for others. He had an interest in OTHERS.</p>
<p>This does not enter Miscavige&#8217;s universe. His world is all about HIM.</p>
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