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		By: Lady Min		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lady Min]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2013 15:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-before-christmas/#comment-18904&quot;&gt;KFrancis&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, appreciate your ack!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-before-christmas/#comment-18904">KFrancis</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, appreciate your ack!</p>
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		By: Jane Doe		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-before-christmas/#comment-19313</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane Doe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-before-christmas/#comment-19051&quot;&gt;Carcha&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree about the session in that film.  So many Gross Auditing Errors it is like they are trying to paint a horrible picture to slam Scn and auditing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-before-christmas/#comment-19051">Carcha</a>.</p>
<p>I agree about the session in that film.  So many Gross Auditing Errors it is like they are trying to paint a horrible picture to slam Scn and auditing.</p>
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		By: Jane Doe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane Doe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-before-christmas/#comment-18961&quot;&gt;Jane Doe&lt;/a&gt;.

Dirk Niblick,  What a nice validation.  I love it. Thank you and I wish you a great life too!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-before-christmas/#comment-18961">Jane Doe</a>.</p>
<p>Dirk Niblick,  What a nice validation.  I love it. Thank you and I wish you a great life too!</p>
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		By: Jens TINGLEFF		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2013 17:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[hang on .. Arent&#039;t they all supposed to go to Flag? What kind of CI suppressive stays at home?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hang on .. Arent&#8217;t they all supposed to go to Flag? What kind of CI suppressive stays at home?</p>
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		By: Carcha		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carcha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2013 14:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-before-christmas/#comment-19050&quot;&gt;Carcha&lt;/a&gt;.

Garbled my words editing there at the last - I meant to say, I think the demo in that film is a piece of shit. Hope that clarifies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-before-christmas/#comment-19050">Carcha</a>.</p>
<p>Garbled my words editing there at the last &#8211; I meant to say, I think the demo in that film is a piece of shit. Hope that clarifies.</p>
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		By: Carcha		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-before-christmas/#comment-18908&quot;&gt;Chuck Beatty&lt;/a&gt;.

Maybe I don&#039;t get it, but that session demo in the film &quot;The Bridge&quot; is so flawed it&#039;s ridiculous if it is supposed to represent auditing. The guy cuts her comm at almost every sentence, and I have never heard of the command &quot;Go over it again&quot; as anything other than possibly a (sloppy) prompt to clarify something the auditor did not understand. It certainly would not be given in the middle of the PC&#039;s sentence. 

The session demo is the approximate equivalent of showing shots of some swampy area of the Congo and representing it as a scene from Times Square or Piccadilly Circus. Really ... this film&#039;s &quot;session&quot; is more bogus than the Co$. I stopped at the point where the Auditor&#039;s Code is broken yet again by the gross evaluation &quot;You are about to blow session. I don&#039;t think that&#039;s a good idea.&quot; There are so many GAE&#039;s (gross auditing errors) in that session demo it&#039;s hard to keep track of them, and I don&#039;t see that demo is nothing more than a direct insult ridiculing any auditor. It is a total misrepresentation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-before-christmas/#comment-18908">Chuck Beatty</a>.</p>
<p>Maybe I don&#8217;t get it, but that session demo in the film &#8220;The Bridge&#8221; is so flawed it&#8217;s ridiculous if it is supposed to represent auditing. The guy cuts her comm at almost every sentence, and I have never heard of the command &#8220;Go over it again&#8221; as anything other than possibly a (sloppy) prompt to clarify something the auditor did not understand. It certainly would not be given in the middle of the PC&#8217;s sentence. </p>
<p>The session demo is the approximate equivalent of showing shots of some swampy area of the Congo and representing it as a scene from Times Square or Piccadilly Circus. Really &#8230; this film&#8217;s &#8220;session&#8221; is more bogus than the Co$. I stopped at the point where the Auditor&#8217;s Code is broken yet again by the gross evaluation &#8220;You are about to blow session. I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a good idea.&#8221; There are so many GAE&#8217;s (gross auditing errors) in that session demo it&#8217;s hard to keep track of them, and I don&#8217;t see that demo is nothing more than a direct insult ridiculing any auditor. It is a total misrepresentation.</p>
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		By: Dirk Niblick		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2013 03:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-before-christmas/#comment-18961&quot;&gt;Jane Doe&lt;/a&gt;.

Jane Doe-
Excellent post.  That really does hit the nail on the head, and I&#039;m sure this is exactly where DM got his idea for this letter campaign (I&#039;m certain something this provocative and domineering must&#039;ve started with DM).  Those still drinking the kool-aid assume that naturally, if you&#039;ve left, you MUST have overts and withholds.  Naturally, you MUST have something wrong with you.  Of course, this is the opposite of the truth.

How wrong they are.  Best wishes to you, and so glad you are not bitter- that&#039;s a great thing to hear.  You deserve a great life full of family, friends, and love... not a life full of bitterness, guilt, and coercion!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-before-christmas/#comment-18961">Jane Doe</a>.</p>
<p>Jane Doe-<br />
Excellent post.  That really does hit the nail on the head, and I&#8217;m sure this is exactly where DM got his idea for this letter campaign (I&#8217;m certain something this provocative and domineering must&#8217;ve started with DM).  Those still drinking the kool-aid assume that naturally, if you&#8217;ve left, you MUST have overts and withholds.  Naturally, you MUST have something wrong with you.  Of course, this is the opposite of the truth.</p>
<p>How wrong they are.  Best wishes to you, and so glad you are not bitter- that&#8217;s a great thing to hear.  You deserve a great life full of family, friends, and love&#8230; not a life full of bitterness, guilt, and coercion!</p>
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		By: Jane Doe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2013 17:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-before-christmas/#comment-18929&quot;&gt;Hallie Jane&lt;/a&gt;.

J Scott,  The line from the letter you got,from the org,  &quot;What have we done to you?&quot; is actually based on Letter Reg tech of writing from the viewpoint of the receiver and taking their R and only talking about their R.  So the letter reg assumed that since you were out that you were motivating, and hence, &quot;what have we done to you?&quot; to get you in comm.  Also there is Sec Checking Tech when you have a low responsibility pc that you get them talking about &quot;what the other person did to you&quot; because pcs love to talk about Flow 2, &quot;done to you&quot; much more than talking about Flow 1, &quot;you did to him/her.&quot;  So per the Sec Checking tech, you get the pc talking about what bad thing was done to him, and then ask, &quot;do you have a similar overt of your own?&quot;  It&#039;s a way to get a person into comm.  

But the interesting evaluation is that the org assumes that if you&#039;re out of the church, that you must be motivating.  They assume that all of the Indies are &quot;bitter, defrocked apostates&quot; or &quot;bitter public person apostates.&quot;   And that evaluation simply isn&#039;t true in most cases.  I&#039;m not bitter.  I&#039;m happy and glad that I&#039;m out.  I count myself very lucky to have escaped.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-before-christmas/#comment-18929">Hallie Jane</a>.</p>
<p>J Scott,  The line from the letter you got,from the org,  &#8220;What have we done to you?&#8221; is actually based on Letter Reg tech of writing from the viewpoint of the receiver and taking their R and only talking about their R.  So the letter reg assumed that since you were out that you were motivating, and hence, &#8220;what have we done to you?&#8221; to get you in comm.  Also there is Sec Checking Tech when you have a low responsibility pc that you get them talking about &#8220;what the other person did to you&#8221; because pcs love to talk about Flow 2, &#8220;done to you&#8221; much more than talking about Flow 1, &#8220;you did to him/her.&#8221;  So per the Sec Checking tech, you get the pc talking about what bad thing was done to him, and then ask, &#8220;do you have a similar overt of your own?&#8221;  It&#8217;s a way to get a person into comm.  </p>
<p>But the interesting evaluation is that the org assumes that if you&#8217;re out of the church, that you must be motivating.  They assume that all of the Indies are &#8220;bitter, defrocked apostates&#8221; or &#8220;bitter public person apostates.&#8221;   And that evaluation simply isn&#8217;t true in most cases.  I&#8217;m not bitter.  I&#8217;m happy and glad that I&#8217;m out.  I count myself very lucky to have escaped.</p>
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		By: Robert Eckert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Eckert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2013 17:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-before-christmas/#comment-18824&quot;&gt;Bela&lt;/a&gt;.

The bottom of the flier says the date &quot;will be announced when it is finalized&quot;.  They can&#039;t even give a date when they will be able to give a date?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/gag-ii-before-christmas/#comment-18824">Bela</a>.</p>
<p>The bottom of the flier says the date &#8220;will be announced when it is finalized&#8221;.  They can&#8217;t even give a date when they will be able to give a date?</p>
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		By: alice		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2013 16:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“make it go right” or its cleaning dumbsters with a toothbrush for you !!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“make it go right” or its cleaning dumbsters with a toothbrush for you !!!</p>
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