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		By: Jane Doe		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/goings-on-in-clearwater/#comment-32091</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2014 16:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/goings-on-in-clearwater/#comment-31830&quot;&gt;Old School&lt;/a&gt;.

I think Davie will release OT IX and X, but they aren&#039;t real OT IX and X.  They are the other parts of OT VIII that he has been withholding for years.  The OT VIII that is being done now on the Ship is the last step only of OT VIII and the first two steps are not done.  So the first two steps of OT VIII done out of order is what will pass for IX and X.  That is IF he has enough VII&#039;s left to sell it to.  I doubt there will be enough to sell to by that time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/goings-on-in-clearwater/#comment-31830">Old School</a>.</p>
<p>I think Davie will release OT IX and X, but they aren&#8217;t real OT IX and X.  They are the other parts of OT VIII that he has been withholding for years.  The OT VIII that is being done now on the Ship is the last step only of OT VIII and the first two steps are not done.  So the first two steps of OT VIII done out of order is what will pass for IX and X.  That is IF he has enough VII&#8217;s left to sell it to.  I doubt there will be enough to sell to by that time.</p>
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		By: gato rojo		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/goings-on-in-clearwater/#comment-32051</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2014 06:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike, please keep up your posts--whatever they are about. Driving through beautiful downtown Clearwater, flying over CW, even what the heck they serve in the Lemon Tree or the latest and greatest stupid little restaurant.....there are a lot of us who aren&#039;t through the crabby &quot;look what idiots they are&quot; stage and who want to vent. We want to make SURE a lot of on-lookers get what&#039;s going on. From the Tech alterations to the extras signs and everything in between. You are right on, my friend. Please make sure the hits just keep on comin&#039;.

And also thanks for the coverage of the events and room to post about the Texas court procedings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, please keep up your posts&#8211;whatever they are about. Driving through beautiful downtown Clearwater, flying over CW, even what the heck they serve in the Lemon Tree or the latest and greatest stupid little restaurant&#8230;..there are a lot of us who aren&#8217;t through the crabby &#8220;look what idiots they are&#8221; stage and who want to vent. We want to make SURE a lot of on-lookers get what&#8217;s going on. From the Tech alterations to the extras signs and everything in between. You are right on, my friend. Please make sure the hits just keep on comin&#8217;.</p>
<p>And also thanks for the coverage of the events and room to post about the Texas court procedings.</p>
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		By: gato rojo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2014 05:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/goings-on-in-clearwater/#comment-31878&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

....and the only difference is not enough people have died yet. WAKE UP you Scn robots! Get the heck outta there any way you can.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/goings-on-in-clearwater/#comment-31878">Old Surfer Dude</a>.</p>
<p>&#8230;.and the only difference is not enough people have died yet. WAKE UP you Scn robots! Get the heck outta there any way you can.</p>
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		By: gato rojo		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/goings-on-in-clearwater/#comment-32047</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2014 05:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/goings-on-in-clearwater/#comment-31723&quot;&gt;2briancox&lt;/a&gt;.

Nah...it&#039;s disguised and going to be the CW Hole. TONS of CW people to put in there---whoo-hoo! No windows, no escape. They haven&#039;t even had a taste of it yet!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/goings-on-in-clearwater/#comment-31723">2briancox</a>.</p>
<p>Nah&#8230;it&#8217;s disguised and going to be the CW Hole. TONS of CW people to put in there&#8212;whoo-hoo! No windows, no escape. They haven&#8217;t even had a taste of it yet!</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/goings-on-in-clearwater/#comment-32017</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2014 00:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/goings-on-in-clearwater/#comment-31990&quot;&gt;Kevin Tighe&lt;/a&gt;.

Fare well Kevin.

I take it you think those post titles would have been appropriate for Hubbard but not today? 

And had I been in this position then I would have been writing them just like that.

If you think that writing those sort of things is likely to bring about change in the current state of the organization then I disagree with you. It is a MUCH easier gradient to get people to look at the CURRENT scene and recognize the outpoints than to try to blame LRH. 

Shudder away all you want. I simply observed that if you think what I am writing is irrelevant and a waste of time, its easy. Don&#039;t read it. And don&#039;t waste time commenting on it.

But I have enjoyed a lot of what you have written and will miss your comments.

Some day we will finally meet face to face.

Mike]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/goings-on-in-clearwater/#comment-31990">Kevin Tighe</a>.</p>
<p>Fare well Kevin.</p>
<p>I take it you think those post titles would have been appropriate for Hubbard but not today? </p>
<p>And had I been in this position then I would have been writing them just like that.</p>
<p>If you think that writing those sort of things is likely to bring about change in the current state of the organization then I disagree with you. It is a MUCH easier gradient to get people to look at the CURRENT scene and recognize the outpoints than to try to blame LRH. </p>
<p>Shudder away all you want. I simply observed that if you think what I am writing is irrelevant and a waste of time, its easy. Don&#8217;t read it. And don&#8217;t waste time commenting on it.</p>
<p>But I have enjoyed a lot of what you have written and will miss your comments.</p>
<p>Some day we will finally meet face to face.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		By: Kevin Tighe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 20:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/goings-on-in-clearwater/#comment-31888&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Mike: 

This will be my final comment on your blog. 

I highly respect what you have done as a whistleblower which has had much value to many but I think the ongoing gotcha bullbait blogging is unworthy of intelligent conversation on the subject of Scientology.  IMHO had there been an internet in the 1950s, 1960s, 1970s &#038; early 1980s then you as a blogger could have easily written entries with the same or similar titles as some your recent entries:

&quot;Hubbard Predicts the Future&quot;  
(In 1960 Ron said the world had ten years at best. There are many more examples of LRH predictions that never came close to happening)

&quot;Straight Up &#038; Vertical Not!&quot;
(Ron said Boston was St Hill Size in 1976. Total bullshit. There are many more examples of claims of incredible expansion there were false)

&quot;We Deliver What We Promise&quot;
(Oh really. Show me one actual Clear per Book1. There are many more examples)

Here&#039;s a new one that could have been from the 1960s:

&quot;First Clear declared SP&quot;

I think you get the idea.

Be well,

Kevin

P.S. It&#039;s comments like, &quot;And Kevin if you don’t like what you’re reading, please stay out.&quot; that just make me shudder. Deja Vu all over again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/goings-on-in-clearwater/#comment-31888">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Mike: </p>
<p>This will be my final comment on your blog. </p>
<p>I highly respect what you have done as a whistleblower which has had much value to many but I think the ongoing gotcha bullbait blogging is unworthy of intelligent conversation on the subject of Scientology.  IMHO had there been an internet in the 1950s, 1960s, 1970s &amp; early 1980s then you as a blogger could have easily written entries with the same or similar titles as some your recent entries:</p>
<p>&#8220;Hubbard Predicts the Future&#8221;<br />
(In 1960 Ron said the world had ten years at best. There are many more examples of LRH predictions that never came close to happening)</p>
<p>&#8220;Straight Up &amp; Vertical Not!&#8221;<br />
(Ron said Boston was St Hill Size in 1976. Total bullshit. There are many more examples of claims of incredible expansion there were false)</p>
<p>&#8220;We Deliver What We Promise&#8221;<br />
(Oh really. Show me one actual Clear per Book1. There are many more examples)</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a new one that could have been from the 1960s:</p>
<p>&#8220;First Clear declared SP&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you get the idea.</p>
<p>Be well,</p>
<p>Kevin</p>
<p>P.S. It&#8217;s comments like, &#8220;And Kevin if you don’t like what you’re reading, please stay out.&#8221; that just make me shudder. Deja Vu all over again.</p>
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		By: Pepper		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 17:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/goings-on-in-clearwater/#comment-31868&quot;&gt;Pepper&lt;/a&gt;.

Rock,

Don&#039;t take offense, just read the earlier posts leading up.  No matter which reply I hit, my comments always fall to the bottom on my computer.

The Extra sign posted in front of the SP building lends a touch of irony, which Mike was humorously referring to. He ended it with &quot;taking bets&quot; on what it could mean, mixing some past truths. 

Another person, not you, was taking this far too seriously.

Have a great Monday and week.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/goings-on-in-clearwater/#comment-31868">Pepper</a>.</p>
<p>Rock,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t take offense, just read the earlier posts leading up.  No matter which reply I hit, my comments always fall to the bottom on my computer.</p>
<p>The Extra sign posted in front of the SP building lends a touch of irony, which Mike was humorously referring to. He ended it with &#8220;taking bets&#8221; on what it could mean, mixing some past truths. </p>
<p>Another person, not you, was taking this far too seriously.</p>
<p>Have a great Monday and week.</p>
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		By: The Rock		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/goings-on-in-clearwater/#comment-31868&quot;&gt;Pepper&lt;/a&gt;.

Lighten up? Jeez, I was answering the post.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/goings-on-in-clearwater/#comment-31868">Pepper</a>.</p>
<p>Lighten up? Jeez, I was answering the post.</p>
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		By: NeverClear		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/goings-on-in-clearwater/#comment-31718&quot;&gt;Mark Fisher&lt;/a&gt;.

Cuz it&#039;s blue, Bitch! I mean Captain Bitch!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/goings-on-in-clearwater/#comment-31718">Mark Fisher</a>.</p>
<p>Cuz it&#8217;s blue, Bitch! I mean Captain Bitch!</p>
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		By: Gus Cox		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/goings-on-in-clearwater/#comment-31768&quot;&gt;Just Me&lt;/a&gt;.

If only...

I just got my &quot;29th Anniversary Commemorative Edition&quot; of Impact Magazine...  It has all the new &quot;status&quot; &quot;achievements.&quot;  Basically the Whale Count.

Here&#039;s the New Whale Count (I&#039;ll spare you the &quot;...status that is rightly revered for advancing us in great strides toward achieving our aims...&quot; horse shit for each level) (except I couldn&#039;t help myself on a couple of them):

Patrons Meritorious = 52 people
Silver Meritorious = 28
Silver Meritorious with Honors = 20
Gold Meribullshittus (&quot;...a level of contribution that imparts a whole new meaning of the word &#039;commitment...&#039;&quot; ) = 39

Gold Bullshittus with Honors = 11

Platinum Meritorious = 25
      -with Honors = 16

Diamond Meritorious (...&quot;a truly exalted plateau...&quot; ) = 2
    -with Honors = 5

Patron Laureate (this &quot;brings us to what sets an IAS contribution above all other philanthropic acts on Earth...&quot;  = Craig and Sally Jenson

Platinum Meritorious with Honors (this is a new one, for &quot;those who play the big table for exceedingly high stakes&quot;  = Sheila and Alan Atkinson-Baker.

I don&#039;t know how much each of these stupid statuses costs, but they are a shitload more than the lousy $50K for a measly Patron.

Now this is probably a high count, since I generally included all the names including family, so maybe 2-4 people were on one donation level, but still, that&#039;s a lot of goddamned money the Prophet of Scientology, He Who Must Not Be Named, Chairman of the Board Religious Technology Center Mr. David Miscavige is raking in for delivering absolutely nothing other than a few pins and gawd-awfully gauche trophies.  

As long as He has idiots like these, He won&#039;t need to be getting into the drug business.  Shit, the Cartels probably wish they could make cash this easily.  &quot;Thanks for the quarter-million.  Here&#039;s your pin, trophy, and photo with COB.&quot;  

Oh, wait.  None of the photos included COB.  Hmmm, I wonder why that is?

What a racket.

-Gus]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/goings-on-in-clearwater/#comment-31768">Just Me</a>.</p>
<p>If only&#8230;</p>
<p>I just got my &#8220;29th Anniversary Commemorative Edition&#8221; of Impact Magazine&#8230;  It has all the new &#8220;status&#8221; &#8220;achievements.&#8221;  Basically the Whale Count.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the New Whale Count (I&#8217;ll spare you the &#8220;&#8230;status that is rightly revered for advancing us in great strides toward achieving our aims&#8230;&#8221; horse shit for each level) (except I couldn&#8217;t help myself on a couple of them):</p>
<p>Patrons Meritorious = 52 people<br />
Silver Meritorious = 28<br />
Silver Meritorious with Honors = 20<br />
Gold Meribullshittus (&#8220;&#8230;a level of contribution that imparts a whole new meaning of the word &#8216;commitment&#8230;'&#8221; ) = 39</p>
<p>Gold Bullshittus with Honors = 11</p>
<p>Platinum Meritorious = 25<br />
      -with Honors = 16</p>
<p>Diamond Meritorious (&#8230;&#8221;a truly exalted plateau&#8230;&#8221; ) = 2<br />
    -with Honors = 5</p>
<p>Patron Laureate (this &#8220;brings us to what sets an IAS contribution above all other philanthropic acts on Earth&#8230;&#8221;  = Craig and Sally Jenson</p>
<p>Platinum Meritorious with Honors (this is a new one, for &#8220;those who play the big table for exceedingly high stakes&#8221;  = Sheila and Alan Atkinson-Baker.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how much each of these stupid statuses costs, but they are a shitload more than the lousy $50K for a measly Patron.</p>
<p>Now this is probably a high count, since I generally included all the names including family, so maybe 2-4 people were on one donation level, but still, that&#8217;s a lot of goddamned money the Prophet of Scientology, He Who Must Not Be Named, Chairman of the Board Religious Technology Center Mr. David Miscavige is raking in for delivering absolutely nothing other than a few pins and gawd-awfully gauche trophies.  </p>
<p>As long as He has idiots like these, He won&#8217;t need to be getting into the drug business.  Shit, the Cartels probably wish they could make cash this easily.  &#8220;Thanks for the quarter-million.  Here&#8217;s your pin, trophy, and photo with COB.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Oh, wait.  None of the photos included COB.  Hmmm, I wonder why that is?</p>
<p>What a racket.</p>
<p>-Gus</p>
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