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		By: remoteviewed		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-age-of-math-10000-on-solo-nots/#comment-35570&quot;&gt;The Oracle&lt;/a&gt;.

As far as I&#039;m concerned the coup had been lying right from the start.

Many of the stats given in RJ 38 such as books sold were already going up before the coup took over.

All they did was take credit for it.

Also the reason for the increase in course starts and sign ups for auditing had nothing to do with their management skills and more to do with the fact that the RED increasing prices was canceled and prices for the the above were dropped to more acceptable levels.

As far as &quot;handling squirrels&quot;.

They managed to get a restraining order against CADA but they were pretty much back in operation after the RJ was issued.

And maybe it slipped their mind or they forgot to inform the Ol&#039;man that Robin Cooke and his Merry Band had managed to steal the OT Levels from AOSHDK by pretending to be missionares.

Probably the biggest breach of Advanced Course Security ever.

In other words they were feeding the Ol&#039;man a lot of false stats and PR which in turn was issued in an RJ.

Of course there was no way Ron could verify these stats personally because he himself was being distracted by various legal actions.

True there were a lot of  OTs  who started *new* OT VII in late &#039;78 when it was released but I doubt if the numbers were anywhere near 10000 though it was hard to tell exactly how many because under new &quot;management&quot; unlike before no accurate stats were ever kept.

But if you went by the percentage of Clears made in the past and the number of these who went on to levels beyond OT III and IIIX. It was about 10 to 12%.

There couldn&#039;t have been any more than 3000 on *new*OT VII. Take that number and divide the number of those who actually completed *new* OT VII and you may come up with 1000 if that.

You could probably get a more accurate number by going through all the Source mags of that period and tallying up the number of *new* OT VIs and VIIs completed. 

See despite all the coups lies and PR. They did keep accurate count of how many completed these levels in their mags.

This is how Kristi Wachter and other researchers found that the coup was full of shit.

http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/fw/2004/complete_table.html

Actually if you look at the stats. You&#039;ll find I was pretty close in my estimate of 1000.

755 the first year which as you remember that OT was released near the end of &#039;89 and 255 the following year. Bringing the grand total to (drum roll please) 1010.

So this 10000 stat is total BS like most of the stats given during the Golden Age of Bushy Tailed Management.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-age-of-math-10000-on-solo-nots/#comment-35570">The Oracle</a>.</p>
<p>As far as I&#8217;m concerned the coup had been lying right from the start.</p>
<p>Many of the stats given in RJ 38 such as books sold were already going up before the coup took over.</p>
<p>All they did was take credit for it.</p>
<p>Also the reason for the increase in course starts and sign ups for auditing had nothing to do with their management skills and more to do with the fact that the RED increasing prices was canceled and prices for the the above were dropped to more acceptable levels.</p>
<p>As far as &#8220;handling squirrels&#8221;.</p>
<p>They managed to get a restraining order against CADA but they were pretty much back in operation after the RJ was issued.</p>
<p>And maybe it slipped their mind or they forgot to inform the Ol&#8217;man that Robin Cooke and his Merry Band had managed to steal the OT Levels from AOSHDK by pretending to be missionares.</p>
<p>Probably the biggest breach of Advanced Course Security ever.</p>
<p>In other words they were feeding the Ol&#8217;man a lot of false stats and PR which in turn was issued in an RJ.</p>
<p>Of course there was no way Ron could verify these stats personally because he himself was being distracted by various legal actions.</p>
<p>True there were a lot of  OTs  who started *new* OT VII in late &#8217;78 when it was released but I doubt if the numbers were anywhere near 10000 though it was hard to tell exactly how many because under new &#8220;management&#8221; unlike before no accurate stats were ever kept.</p>
<p>But if you went by the percentage of Clears made in the past and the number of these who went on to levels beyond OT III and IIIX. It was about 10 to 12%.</p>
<p>There couldn&#8217;t have been any more than 3000 on *new*OT VII. Take that number and divide the number of those who actually completed *new* OT VII and you may come up with 1000 if that.</p>
<p>You could probably get a more accurate number by going through all the Source mags of that period and tallying up the number of *new* OT VIs and VIIs completed. </p>
<p>See despite all the coups lies and PR. They did keep accurate count of how many completed these levels in their mags.</p>
<p>This is how Kristi Wachter and other researchers found that the coup was full of shit.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/fw/2004/complete_table.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/fw/2004/complete_table.html</a></p>
<p>Actually if you look at the stats. You&#8217;ll find I was pretty close in my estimate of 1000.</p>
<p>755 the first year which as you remember that OT was released near the end of &#8217;89 and 255 the following year. Bringing the grand total to (drum roll please) 1010.</p>
<p>So this 10000 stat is total BS like most of the stats given during the Golden Age of Bushy Tailed Management.</p>
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		By: Mooser42001		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2014 03:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the upper left-hand corner of the &quot;solo NOT&quot; flyer, there is a quote frow L Ron Hubbard, in which he refers to &quot;current research&quot; Can anybody tell me to what &quot;research&quot; he is referring?

You know what, I&#039;ve completely lost patience!  Miscavige, Miscvavige, Miscavige  it always Miscavige! Miscavige this, Miscavige that!  Did it ever occur to you that Mr. Miscavige is doing the best he can with what he was given?  Garbage in, baby, garbage out.
Considering what Miscavige had to work with, I think he&#039;s doing a damn good job!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the upper left-hand corner of the &#8220;solo NOT&#8221; flyer, there is a quote frow L Ron Hubbard, in which he refers to &#8220;current research&#8221; Can anybody tell me to what &#8220;research&#8221; he is referring?</p>
<p>You know what, I&#8217;ve completely lost patience!  Miscavige, Miscvavige, Miscavige  it always Miscavige! Miscavige this, Miscavige that!  Did it ever occur to you that Mr. Miscavige is doing the best he can with what he was given?  Garbage in, baby, garbage out.<br />
Considering what Miscavige had to work with, I think he&#8217;s doing a damn good job!</p>
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		By: The Oracle		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2014 00:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-age-of-math-10000-on-solo-nots/#comment-35542&quot;&gt;remoteviewed&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow, I did have the &quot;information&quot; that 10,000 people had finished solo nots for the release of OT8. Or at least 10,000 were auditing on it.]]></description>
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<p>Wow, I did have the &#8220;information&#8221; that 10,000 people had finished solo nots for the release of OT8. Or at least 10,000 were auditing on it.</p>
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		By: remoteviewed		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-age-of-math-10000-on-solo-nots/#comment-35523&quot;&gt;The Oracle&lt;/a&gt;.

Oracle,

From what I remember the criteria for releasing an OT Level (before the coup changed it to a Ideal Org in every pot or whatever...) was when enough people had reached the OT level before it.

From what I recall there was never any exact number. 

For instance when original OT VII was released there was maybe a little over 600 OT VIs world wide from my research of old Advance Mags.

I don&#039;t exactly recall the number of *new* OT  VIIs made before the original &quot;Maiden Voyage&quot; but it couldn&#039;t have been any more than 1000. 

Whoever told you there was anything close to 10000 was probably to be kind embellishing the actual numbers.

However you are correct about the great &quot;reset&quot;. 

Actually it was in &#039;96 when the squirrels in RTC &quot;discovered&quot; that anybody who had done *new* OT VII hadn&#039;t done it correctly and sent everybody back to redo *new* OT V and VI per the &quot;Golden Age of OT&quot; which brought the total number who supposedly &quot;completed&quot; *new* OT VII to 0.

Not only that but they also arbitrarily canceled 80% of the Clear statuses attained since the release of the Dianetic Clear RED.

The number dropped from about 50000 to just below 12000. 

This doesn&#039;t include all the auditors who&#039;s cert were illegally canceled under the &quot;Golden Age of Tech&quot; which brought about the biggest stat crash in Scientology history.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-age-of-math-10000-on-solo-nots/#comment-35523">The Oracle</a>.</p>
<p>Oracle,</p>
<p>From what I remember the criteria for releasing an OT Level (before the coup changed it to a Ideal Org in every pot or whatever&#8230;) was when enough people had reached the OT level before it.</p>
<p>From what I recall there was never any exact number. </p>
<p>For instance when original OT VII was released there was maybe a little over 600 OT VIs world wide from my research of old Advance Mags.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t exactly recall the number of *new* OT  VIIs made before the original &#8220;Maiden Voyage&#8221; but it couldn&#8217;t have been any more than 1000. </p>
<p>Whoever told you there was anything close to 10000 was probably to be kind embellishing the actual numbers.</p>
<p>However you are correct about the great &#8220;reset&#8221;. </p>
<p>Actually it was in &#8217;96 when the squirrels in RTC &#8220;discovered&#8221; that anybody who had done *new* OT VII hadn&#8217;t done it correctly and sent everybody back to redo *new* OT V and VI per the &#8220;Golden Age of OT&#8221; which brought the total number who supposedly &#8220;completed&#8221; *new* OT VII to 0.</p>
<p>Not only that but they also arbitrarily canceled 80% of the Clear statuses attained since the release of the Dianetic Clear RED.</p>
<p>The number dropped from about 50000 to just below 12000. </p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t include all the auditors who&#8217;s cert were illegally canceled under the &#8220;Golden Age of Tech&#8221; which brought about the biggest stat crash in Scientology history.</p>
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		By: Bill Lumberg		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-age-of-math-10000-on-solo-nots/#comment-35524&quot;&gt;The Oracle&lt;/a&gt;.

It really is just a free Soap Opera. I tune in every day to see what new twists and turns are in store. Eventually the lead character is killed off in some sort of awesome fashion . . . like getting squashed by a rogue wave or falling down an elevator shaft. Does Super Power have elevators?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-age-of-math-10000-on-solo-nots/#comment-35524">The Oracle</a>.</p>
<p>It really is just a free Soap Opera. I tune in every day to see what new twists and turns are in store. Eventually the lead character is killed off in some sort of awesome fashion . . . like getting squashed by a rogue wave or falling down an elevator shaft. Does Super Power have elevators?</p>
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		By: WG		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-age-of-math-10000-on-solo-nots/#comment-35474&quot;&gt;cre8tivewmn&lt;/a&gt;.

IMHO the increasingly poor quality of their promotional material is an important indicator of the mass exodus of skilled workers from the ranks of the Sea Org.  There is no way that this kind of shoddy work would have been used in promotional materials 5 or 10 years ago.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-age-of-math-10000-on-solo-nots/#comment-35474">cre8tivewmn</a>.</p>
<p>IMHO the increasingly poor quality of their promotional material is an important indicator of the mass exodus of skilled workers from the ranks of the Sea Org.  There is no way that this kind of shoddy work would have been used in promotional materials 5 or 10 years ago.</p>
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		By: Chee Chalker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-age-of-math-10000-on-solo-nots/#comment-35461&quot;&gt;joan&lt;/a&gt;.

At last!  A job perfect for the tiny one!  He can be a jockey for the bag of bones which is the Co$]]></description>
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<p>At last!  A job perfect for the tiny one!  He can be a jockey for the bag of bones which is the Co$</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-age-of-math-10000-on-solo-nots/#comment-35523&quot;&gt;The Oracle&lt;/a&gt;.

It was not 10,000 in 1988. If someone told you this it was an absurd lie. You won&#039;t even find the Liar in Chief saying that anywhere.]]></description>
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<p>It was not 10,000 in 1988. If someone told you this it was an absurd lie. You won&#8217;t even find the Liar in Chief saying that anywhere.</p>
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		By: KFrancis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-age-of-math-10000-on-solo-nots/#comment-35518&quot;&gt;AnonIndie&lt;/a&gt;.

I would advise the church to check at least three things on these folks who are not able to finish the level:

1. Do they have an undisclosed PTS situation? (Possibly the IAS, Ideal Org Programs, David Miscavige?)
2. Is there a persistent Out-Rudiments situation in their lives? (Possibly the IAS, Ideal Org Programs, David Miscaviage?)
3. Is there a Hidden Standard on the case? In other words, is there something they are trying to handle with Solo auditing and are measuring their gains against whether this “thing” they have their attention on is getting better or changing.]]></description>
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<p>I would advise the church to check at least three things on these folks who are not able to finish the level:</p>
<p>1. Do they have an undisclosed PTS situation? (Possibly the IAS, Ideal Org Programs, David Miscavige?)<br />
2. Is there a persistent Out-Rudiments situation in their lives? (Possibly the IAS, Ideal Org Programs, David Miscaviage?)<br />
3. Is there a Hidden Standard on the case? In other words, is there something they are trying to handle with Solo auditing and are measuring their gains against whether this “thing” they have their attention on is getting better or changing.</p>
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		By: scnethics		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 14:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>Good point!</p>
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