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		By: Kronomex		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kronomex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2020 21:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I once ran a round around a circular room but it got cranky and went off to sulk in the corner.]]></description>
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		By: JustYourAvgCitizen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JustYourAvgCitizen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2020 13:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-era-brings-back-the-running-program/#comment-370313&quot;&gt;Nancy Vasta&lt;/a&gt;.

I’m so completely dumbfounded that such smart people and the endless narcissism of “celebrities” justify the Hitleresque machinations of Miscavige.  The fact that this fake religion makes out like a bandit with tax-free status and is a freaking wagon the govt does not know what to do with BECAUSE OF the monster they created by folding with this tax-exempt nonsense just further solidified my belief that the Feds are incompetent. There are, frankly, too many reported abuses at this point to allow an organization that literally does nothing but con money out of people to hide behind 1A. 1A does not protect criminality. One need only to look at the hands off approaches that ended horrifically with Jim Jones and David Koresh, and the absolute avoidance of holding people like Keith Raniere accountable early on rather than until he’d already destroyed so many lives is just further proof that they take the path of least resistance. Scientology sounds like a solid RICO case. They are worse than the Mafia, and even those guys get hit in court at some point. The letters in response to The Aftermath show from this cult read like a middle school mean girls slam book. It’s ludicrous. I mean, you have people, multiple people, telling the same horrific stories for literally DECADES, yet more proof is needed? How about another raid for probable cause? Or better yet, we’ve had Presidents who weaponized the IRS, yet they’ve lost their teeth in this case? I’m beyond disgusted. I’m so angry and heartbroken for the people abused by this evil organization. When will they be stopped?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-era-brings-back-the-running-program/#comment-370313">Nancy Vasta</a>.</p>
<p>I’m so completely dumbfounded that such smart people and the endless narcissism of “celebrities” justify the Hitleresque machinations of Miscavige.  The fact that this fake religion makes out like a bandit with tax-free status and is a freaking wagon the govt does not know what to do with BECAUSE OF the monster they created by folding with this tax-exempt nonsense just further solidified my belief that the Feds are incompetent. There are, frankly, too many reported abuses at this point to allow an organization that literally does nothing but con money out of people to hide behind 1A. 1A does not protect criminality. One need only to look at the hands off approaches that ended horrifically with Jim Jones and David Koresh, and the absolute avoidance of holding people like Keith Raniere accountable early on rather than until he’d already destroyed so many lives is just further proof that they take the path of least resistance. Scientology sounds like a solid RICO case. They are worse than the Mafia, and even those guys get hit in court at some point. The letters in response to The Aftermath show from this cult read like a middle school mean girls slam book. It’s ludicrous. I mean, you have people, multiple people, telling the same horrific stories for literally DECADES, yet more proof is needed? How about another raid for probable cause? Or better yet, we’ve had Presidents who weaponized the IRS, yet they’ve lost their teeth in this case? I’m beyond disgusted. I’m so angry and heartbroken for the people abused by this evil organization. When will they be stopped?</p>
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		By: Allison		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2020 02:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-era-brings-back-the-running-program/#comment-370313&quot;&gt;Nancy Vasta&lt;/a&gt;.

I just had to say I really loved your comment &quot;he is already half a sandwich on his way to a good picnic.&quot; And reference to Lewis Carroll.  I&#039;ve had a shit day and this made me <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />lmfao.
Thank you]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-era-brings-back-the-running-program/#comment-370313">Nancy Vasta</a>.</p>
<p>I just had to say I really loved your comment &#8220;he is already half a sandwich on his way to a good picnic.&#8221; And reference to Lewis Carroll.  I&#8217;ve had a shit day and this made me 🤣😂lmfao.<br />
Thank you</p>
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		By: Ann Watson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann Watson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 23:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-era-brings-back-the-running-program/#comment-370628&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Jere. In my experience many of us joined staff and Sea Org because we needed a direction that felt so different from the past. And we thought we were going to do good for the world .

Today I look back and think I certainly got a billion times more than I ever believed would happen when I dived into Ron&#039;s tangled world! It was the mirror image of good &#038; dm sealed the whole mess with his vindictive narcissistic sadistic behavior &#038; personality .<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f494.png" alt="💔" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> 

Very Thankful to be Out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-era-brings-back-the-running-program/#comment-370628">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you Jere. In my experience many of us joined staff and Sea Org because we needed a direction that felt so different from the past. And we thought we were going to do good for the world .</p>
<p>Today I look back and think I certainly got a billion times more than I ever believed would happen when I dived into Ron&#8217;s tangled world! It was the mirror image of good &amp; dm sealed the whole mess with his vindictive narcissistic sadistic behavior &amp; personality .💔 </p>
<p>Very Thankful to be Out.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 04:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-era-brings-back-the-running-program/#comment-370201&quot;&gt;Eh=Eh&lt;/a&gt;.

Eh=Eh, “no case on post” was just a verbal whip seniors could use if you woke up to the futility of it all, or you realized you were wasting your life away for nothing like what they were advertising, OR if you were a little under the weather that day.  When I worked for a sane company, we&#039;d get sent HOME to get over minor illnesses rather than infect our co-workers.  Fewer people GOT sick as a result.  scn could NEVER have enacted such a policy.  EVERYONE was so vitally important, NO one could actually TAKE the 3-weeks a year leave ruled by policy, not even me, a lowly file clerk. (I did get 2 of them towards the end of my 5 years at Flag. I literally didn&#039;t recognize my home town as I walked up the street to my Mom&#039;s house, my childhood home. BLEW MY MIND how disconnected I&#039;d gotten from the place. The front yards looked OVERGROWN with plants &#038; flowers &#038; all the GREEN, compared to Florida&#039;s sun-bleached plant-life &#038; sad-sack &quot;grass&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-era-brings-back-the-running-program/#comment-370201">Eh=Eh</a>.</p>
<p>Eh=Eh, “no case on post” was just a verbal whip seniors could use if you woke up to the futility of it all, or you realized you were wasting your life away for nothing like what they were advertising, OR if you were a little under the weather that day.  When I worked for a sane company, we&#8217;d get sent HOME to get over minor illnesses rather than infect our co-workers.  Fewer people GOT sick as a result.  scn could NEVER have enacted such a policy.  EVERYONE was so vitally important, NO one could actually TAKE the 3-weeks a year leave ruled by policy, not even me, a lowly file clerk. (I did get 2 of them towards the end of my 5 years at Flag. I literally didn&#8217;t recognize my home town as I walked up the street to my Mom&#8217;s house, my childhood home. BLEW MY MIND how disconnected I&#8217;d gotten from the place. The front yards looked OVERGROWN with plants &amp; flowers &amp; all the GREEN, compared to Florida&#8217;s sun-bleached plant-life &amp; sad-sack &#8220;grass&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 04:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-era-brings-back-the-running-program/#comment-370211&quot;&gt;Mary Snow&lt;/a&gt;.

PeaceMaker observed:
&quot;The ocean of online information telling the truth about COS unleashed by ex-Scientologists and non-Scientologists who have watched Aftermath, Going Clear, and other sources, is running rampant on social media.&quot;

FANTASTIC! sources of the truth which are too numerous for the organization to even try to censor or otherwise swat.

THIS was needed back in the &#039;50s to avoid the mess which now has got to be cleaned up.

No matter. We work with what we&#039;ve got.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-era-brings-back-the-running-program/#comment-370211">Mary Snow</a>.</p>
<p>PeaceMaker observed:<br />
&#8220;The ocean of online information telling the truth about COS unleashed by ex-Scientologists and non-Scientologists who have watched Aftermath, Going Clear, and other sources, is running rampant on social media.&#8221;</p>
<p>FANTASTIC! sources of the truth which are too numerous for the organization to even try to censor or otherwise swat.</p>
<p>THIS was needed back in the &#8217;50s to avoid the mess which now has got to be cleaned up.</p>
<p>No matter. We work with what we&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 04:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-era-brings-back-the-running-program/#comment-370215&quot;&gt;Ann Watson&lt;/a&gt;.

Right, Ann. David Mayo WAS  one of the &quot;good ones&quot;, or as good (human) as he was allowed to be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-era-brings-back-the-running-program/#comment-370215">Ann Watson</a>.</p>
<p>Right, Ann. David Mayo WAS  one of the &#8220;good ones&#8221;, or as good (human) as he was allowed to be.</p>
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		By: Mary Snow		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Snow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-era-brings-back-the-running-program/#comment-370388&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

Exactly. Well said. I agree.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-era-brings-back-the-running-program/#comment-370388">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>Exactly. Well said. I agree.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeaceMaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2020 17:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-era-brings-back-the-running-program/#comment-370211&quot;&gt;Mary Snow&lt;/a&gt;.

Mary, born-ins seem to often not make enthusiastic members or succesful staff, unlike the diehard old baby boomer &quot;seekers&quot; Scientology once recruited, at least according to reports and anecdotes that we see in places like this blog.  So DM must have a cascading problem of  attrition, which could at least partly explain reports that the Sea Org has been pared down.

The other problem is just that Dianetics and Scientology are so dated - they reek of the middle of the last century in a way that is not good.  Even if Gen Z wasn&#039;t more skeptical, they would still be going for more modern cults and gurus like Teal Swan or, closer to the beginning of this century, NXIVM and Keith Raniere - and whatever small number of them can&#039;t resist the siren call of such groups and leaders, still will, but not to Scientology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-era-brings-back-the-running-program/#comment-370211">Mary Snow</a>.</p>
<p>Mary, born-ins seem to often not make enthusiastic members or succesful staff, unlike the diehard old baby boomer &#8220;seekers&#8221; Scientology once recruited, at least according to reports and anecdotes that we see in places like this blog.  So DM must have a cascading problem of  attrition, which could at least partly explain reports that the Sea Org has been pared down.</p>
<p>The other problem is just that Dianetics and Scientology are so dated &#8211; they reek of the middle of the last century in a way that is not good.  Even if Gen Z wasn&#8217;t more skeptical, they would still be going for more modern cults and gurus like Teal Swan or, closer to the beginning of this century, NXIVM and Keith Raniere &#8211; and whatever small number of them can&#8217;t resist the siren call of such groups and leaders, still will, but not to Scientology.</p>
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		By: Angry Gay Pope		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angry Gay Pope]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2020 17:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-era-brings-back-the-running-program/#comment-370276&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

How interesting. Yes I know Karen DLC&#039;s ankles turned to jelly under that awful tree!  Also, talk to me about getting Graham Berry on your show. We are discussing it and I told him he has to publish a website I wrote for him so there will be something to promote about him when he goes on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/golden-era-brings-back-the-running-program/#comment-370276">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>How interesting. Yes I know Karen DLC&#8217;s ankles turned to jelly under that awful tree!  Also, talk to me about getting Graham Berry on your show. We are discussing it and I told him he has to publish a website I wrote for him so there will be something to promote about him when he goes on.</p>
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