I just held my glass up in toast of Mike Rinder!

🙂

Thanks Robin. I have marked this day on my calendar! 🙂 Glad to have some agreement. I guess these back and forths are not a complete waste of time.

Mike,

Okay point made.

Guilty as charged. Your Honor.

Yes I agree that the Tech/OEC Vols are just the tip of a very large iceberg involving various Directives, Orders and Advices which would make several large volumes.

Though it still doesn’t change the fact that what orgs should be operating on are exclusively in those two sets of volumes
and they are not.

A parallel would be the dozens and dozens of processes covered on the BC and earlier lectures but only a few dozen of those being considered Standard Tech.

There is also Standard Admin as well.

Robin, I really think you need to get into present time and see what is actually in front of you instead of trying to find answers in something written in 1965. But that is your choice.

By this reference, every Flag Order and CBO, even those written by LRH is a “hidden data line” as they are NOT available in orgs for all to see.

There are tens of thousands of pages of LRH recorded or written that are sitting in file cabinets in Hemet and at ASI and CST that you and most others will never see. It is all by LRH. And is thus all “hidden data line.”

You can go on being stuck in the past and come up with excuses for everything. But it just doesn’t match with the real world.

It’s a long string of people that LRH trusted who all turned out to be SP’s — going all the way back to Dr. Winter and Don Purcell and the procession has been pretty much nonstop through Reg Sharpe and Ray Kemp to Otto Roos and Bill Franks to Paulette Ausley to David Mayo, Jane Kember, Pat Broeker, David Miscavige etc etc.

When does the percentage become proof that a) either he was wrong and they were not all SP’s or b) he could not apply his own tech, after all the course is called the PTS/SP Detection, Routing and Handling Course.

This has now come full circle and Ron DID trust Misc and you now say “So what?” which was the original thing this whole commentary began about.

And by the way, are you actually saying there are no transcripts of confidential briefings or despatches that are not for public consumption because I am giving you “the same bullshit the GO used to give you when you asked to see ythe actual directive written by Ron?”

I thought you said you were in New World Corps at one point? And you never saw or operated on things in NWC that were not published? You never even read the WOOC Eval that was NOT published?

I know you like to argue for argument’s sake, so as usual I am likely wasting my time. I just wish you would take what appears to be an admirable level of skepticism about the world and apply it to some of the things you hold so dear but you hang onto in the face of overwhelming evidence to disprove them.

BTW, it was not the CMO that “told him the GO was seeking to take over the organization” — the was the Office of Evaluation and Execution (Vinaire and Alex Castillo recall it well as they were both evaluators) and the evolution that LRH called “ConEvil” where he personally directed investigations and evaluations on orgs around the world and essentially forced the evaluators to look into the GO — up til that time it was really off limits, nobody investigated the GO. This subsequently led to the formation of WISE to keep businesses off the backs of orgs and the obs missions into the GO after it was reported to LRH that the USGO had accepted substituted service on his behalf in a civil damages case.

But of course, that is all “hidden data” because you haven’t read about it in an HCOB or PL.

Move on up from 1965 Robin.

” what determines whether something is or isn’t a hidden data line(?)”

To answer your question:

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HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex
HCO POLICY LETTER OF 16 APRIL AD 15
Rernimeo Sthil Students Franchise
THE “HIDDEN DATA LINE’
Some students have believed there was a “hidden data line” of tech in Scientology, a line on which Scientology tech was given out by me but not made known to students.
This started me looking. For there is no such line.
I wondered if it was a “missed withhold of nothing”. There can be one of these, you know. There is nothing
there, yet the auditor tries to get it and the pc ARC Breaks. This is “cleaning a clean” with an E-Meter.
One pc I cleaned up very nicely had been harassed for years about “an incident that happened when she was five”. A lot of people had tried to “get it”. The pe was in a pitiful condition. I found there was nothing there. No incident at all! The meter read came from the charge on previous auditing. I think probably she must have sneezed or her finger slipped on the cans when first asked about “an incident when you were five”.
An auditor who “sees a read” when there is no charge makes a “missed withhold of nothing”.
This is the other side of the ARC Break-the gone something, the non-existence of something. No food. No money. These things ARC Break people.
So it is with a “missed withhold of nothing”.
Take Johannesburg. Some years ago the field there was upset by 3 rabble rousers who alleged all manner of r ,Jd things about the Scientology org there. They held wild field meetings and all that.
uth was these three people had done a vicious thing and screamed to high heaven when I sought to query them.
They made a “missed withhold of nothing” in the field in that area! There was exactly nothing wrong with Scientology there or us. There was something wrong with those three people. They had been stealing from the org.
The field kept looking for what was wrong with the org or us. Nothing was. So it couldn’t be cleaned up because there was nothing to clean. There were three thieves who had run off with org property and defied orders to give it
back. How this made something wrong with us is quite a puzzle. They are still “cleaning up this ARC Break” in Johannesburg! For it is not cleanable, not being there to be cleaned! Unless you realize there was nothing there at all! It’s a missed withhold of nothing. The basic org and staff and we at Saint Hill were just doing our jobs in ordinary routine!
Governments looking for evil in Scientology orgs will go mad (I trust) as they are seeking a non-existent thing. They are easily defeated because their statements are so crazy even their own legal systems can’t help but see it. So it’s easily won.
The only person who goes mad on a missed withhold of nothing is the person who thinks there is something there that isn’t.
So it is with the “hidden data line” students sometimes feel must exist on courses. There is no line.
But in this case there is an apparency of a line.
When instructors or seniors give out alter-ised technology or unusual solutions, the student feels they must have
some inside track, some data line the student doesn’t have.
The student looks for it and starts alter-ising in his turn pretending to have it when they become instructors. 186
It’s a missed withhold of nothing.
The whole of technology is released in HCO Bulletins and HCO Policy Letters and tapes I do and release.
I don’t tell people anything in some private way, not even instructors.
For instance, all the instructors I taught to handle R6 we taught by my lecturing or writing bulletins for them.
Every one of these tapes is used to teach GPM data and handling to students on the Saint Hill Course. Any new data I have given on it has been given to all these people.
The instructor then knows only to the degree he has studied and used the very same HCOBs and HCO Pol Ltrs and tapes the student is now using.
There is no “hidden data line”. To believe there is makes an ARC Break.
The apparency is somebody’s pretence to know from me more than is on the tapes and in books and mimeos, or, brutally, somebody’s alter-is of materials. This looks like a “hidden data line”. It surely isn’t.
All the lower level materials are in the HCOBs, Pol Ltrs or on tapes.
All the GPM materials released are here waiting for the student when he reaches that level.
One could say there was one if one was way off the main data line. But it sure isn’t hidden. It’s on courses and in orgs.
I laughed one time at the top flight US Government White House entrusted psychologist. He looked over some startling IQ changes, said such a thing would revolutionize psychology overnight if known and added “no wonder you keep your technology secret!”
That is very funny when you look at how hard you and I work to make it known to all!
The data line isn’t hidden. It’s there for anyone to have. There’s lots of it is possibly a source of trouble in releasing it. But it’s all on courses in Academies or Saint Hill. You could have. a copy of everything in the tape library if you wanted. It might cost a lot, but you could have it.
There is no hidden data line.
There’s a lot of data I haven’t had time to write down and put on a line for sheer press of time. But I work hard to
do it.
But even my closest staff and communicators when it hears of a new process or plan from me verbally, sees it in an HCOB or HCO Pol Ltr a few days later.
Don’t for heaven’s sake mistake alter-is by somebody as evidence of a hidden line.
In Scientology we say “If it isn’t written it isn’t true”. That applies to orders. Somebody says “Ron said to . . .” and on a veteran staff you hear the rejoinder “Let’s see it”. I’ve had raw meat walk into an org and say “Ron said I was to have 25 hours of auditing”. And in the raw meat days of orgs, they sometimes were given it. So we have learned the hard way-“If it isn’t written it wasn’t said”.
And that applies to anybody’s orders, not just mine.
And on tech and policy, it’s equally true. If it isn’t in an HCOB or an HCO Pol Ltr or recorded on a tape in my voice, it isn’t tech or policy.
Next time you hear a pretended order or a squirrel process attributed to me, say “If it isn’t written or recorded it isn’t true”.
And watch how tech results soar then in that area. L. RON HUBBARD
LRH:ml.rd Copyright (Z) 1965 by L. Ron Hubbard ALL RIGHTS RESERVED

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Again for emphasis:

If it isn’t in an HCOB or an HCO Pol Ltr or recorded on a tape in my voice, it isn’t tech or policy.

Next time you hear a pretended order or a squirrel process attributed to me, say “If it isn’t written or recorded it isn’t true”.”

So as far as I’m concerned anything that isn’t plainly written in policy about Org Structure is based on a “Hidden Data” line as above and is one the reasons why Miscavige gets away with the shit he does.

He goes around saying Ron said this or ordered that or this was really his intention when according to the basic agreement that is according to the Policy Org Sanity which *is* policy it doesn’t exist.

That is what I mean by a Hidden Data Line.

As above.

I mean as a Class VI I can list off a bunch of processes to run on a PC but none of them have anything to do with *Standard Tech* because they do not exist in HCOBs

As far as I can see CMOI was just running off its own script just like the GO was before it.

Fact is I used to get exactly the same Bull Shit from the GO when I asked to see the actual Directive written by Ron.

I’ve read it but you can’t because it only exists in a transcript from a confidential briefing etc, etc, etc,

So I’d demand to see it and then get bonded up the kazoo and turns out that the oh so secret conference was basically background data which didn’t change existing policy whatsoever.

So Ron trusted Misc as you say, so what?

Ron occasionally trusted people who should have never been trusted like Bill Franks and who he personally appointed to ED Int who as it turns out according to his own admission on Amy Goodman’s Democracy Now was an FBI Informant.

He trust Mayo too and posted him as Senior C/S Int. Only to have him squirrel the Tech when Ron moved off the post as Consultant C/S.

Proves that the Ol’ man wasn’t perfect and at times failed to apply the Chart of Human Evaluation which he’s admitted to doing and being overoptimistic which he was want to do at times.

Like trusting CMOI when they told him that the GO was seeking to take over the organization which in my opinion was nothing but a cynical ploy and an effort to seize control of the organization and destroy it from within.

Which as far as I’m concerned they have succeeded at brilliantly by placing a psychotic sociopath in a position of ultimate power.

Yep, you stick to your guns Robin. Whatever they may be.

Interesting question — what determines whether something is or isn’t a hidden data line. If I have seen something in writing and you haven’t, it’s a “hidden data line” from your perspective, but nothing hidden about it from mine. So thye les you know more “hidden data line” there are? Is that how it works?

You know and I know that the Riverside Declaration does not assign Miscavige any leadership role and it only says that he is a”trusted friend” and like I wrote earlier if there was anything in writing that assigned him a leadership role in anyway then as I wrote it would have been posted in his bio.

Also you go on about how I use an old PL while ignoring the total absence of any mention of succession in Trust B which as you know is later on the chain then the Riverside Declaration.

These are the only things that are in writing. Pardon me if I stick with what’s written in policy which is *not* a Hidden Data line and avoid the Alice in Wonderland world of Scientology created by the whole CMOI junta.

Not going to get too involved with this other than to note you ignore one document that is perhaps the LAST thing that can be truly verified as having an LRH signature on it (though it was not composed by him) in favor of a 1966 policy of which there are dozens of examples showing it has not been followed BY LRH since a year after it was written. In fact, he proclaimed often (including in that very declaration) that he was NOT a Board Member or Trustee or Staff Member and also claimed he received no income from the organizations. This PL also states that his assets upon death go into an estate for his family….

Very strange reference to hang your hat on as some sort of proof that LRH did not trust Miscavige.

Sorry to break this to you, but he trusted Miscavige implicitly and there are hundreds of dispatches that I have read where he affirms this. Some can be attributed to Miscavige and Broeker forwarding information that was only favorable to them, but LRH’s trust of DM began long before he went “off the lines.”

And before you claim those documents are forgeries, I have listened to plenty of the LRH dictation of those despatches — even transcribed some myself.