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		By: Nicola		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicola]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2013 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/have-they-no-shame-vultures-circling-boston/#comment-1742&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.


	I read an article by someone way funnier than me and they called it&#160; a &#034;tragitunity&#034; :)
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<p>	I read an article by someone way funnier than me and they called it&nbsp; a &quot;tragitunity&quot; 🙂</p>
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		By: Rob Thomas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2013 18:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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	What every Bostonian is saying to themselves right now is, &#034;I wish there were a book that.......&#034; No. These booklets become trash in the floorboards.&#160;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>	What every Bostonian is saying to themselves right now is, &quot;I wish there were a book that&#8230;&#8230;.&quot; No. These booklets become trash in the floorboards.&nbsp;</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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	I love the WTH. &#160;I consider it&#160;&#160;full of tactfully written common sense&#160;which can help anyone of any faith or nationality live better.&#160;It is full of ARC and written with no make wrong and I believe it can do a lot of good, very widely. &#160;



	That said, in order for the distribution of WTH to do its job,&#160;&#160;there are some vital targets as to its recipients.&#160;



	The first is that the recipients can actually&#160;read, the second is that they are in shape TO read, i.e., not banged up physically, mentally or emotionally, and the third would be what many of the posters here have so aptly pointed out: that the handing out of the booklet is SEQUITUR to what is occurring. &#160;



	LRH never intended for WTH to HANDLE the mayhem cause by all kinds of disasters, but rather to give a &#160;people some common sense stable datums for operating in life so that disasters don&#039;t happen, or if they do, they will be in better shape from the get-go to survive them.&#160;&#160;It is a&#160;preventative tool, essentially.&#160;&#160;The time to distribute WTH is when the scene is relatively calm, when&#160;people who are ready, willing and able to read can&#160;give some attention to what they are reading.



	.



	&#160;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>	I love the WTH. &nbsp;I consider it&nbsp;&nbsp;full of tactfully written common sense&nbsp;which can help anyone of any faith or nationality live better.&nbsp;It is full of ARC and written with no make wrong and I believe it can do a lot of good, very widely. &nbsp;</p>
<p>	That said, in order for the distribution of WTH to do its job,&nbsp;&nbsp;there are some vital targets as to its recipients.&nbsp;</p>
<p>	The first is that the recipients can actually&nbsp;read, the second is that they are in shape TO read, i.e., not banged up physically, mentally or emotionally, and the third would be what many of the posters here have so aptly pointed out: that the handing out of the booklet is SEQUITUR to what is occurring. &nbsp;</p>
<p>	LRH never intended for WTH to HANDLE the mayhem cause by all kinds of disasters, but rather to give a &nbsp;people some common sense stable datums for operating in life so that disasters don&#039;t happen, or if they do, they will be in better shape from the get-go to survive them.&nbsp;&nbsp;It is a&nbsp;preventative tool, essentially.&nbsp;&nbsp;The time to distribute WTH is when the scene is relatively calm, when&nbsp;people who are ready, willing and able to read can&nbsp;give some attention to what they are reading.</p>
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		By: sets guy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sets guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/have-they-no-shame-vultures-circling-boston/#comment-1786&quot;&gt;statpush&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Statpush.  Very well said. The actual intention behind this is to try to get some positive publicity for the church not to help anyone.]]></description>
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<p>Thank you Statpush.  Very well said. The actual intention behind this is to try to get some positive publicity for the church not to help anyone.</p>
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		By: sets guy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sets guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2013 15:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/have-they-no-shame-vultures-circling-boston/#comment-1780&quot;&gt;Scnethics&lt;/a&gt;.

They are not in the back yard. They are in da house!]]></description>
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<p>They are not in the back yard. They are in da house!</p>
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		By: statpush		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2013 10:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/have-they-no-shame-vultures-circling-boston/#comment-1784&quot;&gt;Jethro Bodine&lt;/a&gt;.


	While &#034;getting the stats up&#034; is certainly a factor in this, there is the &lt;em&gt;magic &lt;/em&gt;aspect.&#160; Meaning, if you saturate an area with TWTH booklets, the area will &lt;em&gt;magically &lt;/em&gt;destimulate and come uptone.&#160; I believe LRH implied something of the sort.&#160; I have no first-hand evidence that this is the case.&#160; Any reports by RCS (e.g. Columbia, etc) can be counted upon to be embellished, or worse, lies.



	I say this jokingly, but feel there is some truth to it - the true believing,&#160;kool-aid drinking Scnist is predisposed to believing in fantastic, magical things.&#160; So, passing out pieced of paper with words on it will &#034;help&#034; human beings who have been physically harmed, emotionally scared, are dazed and confused and more or less in a state of shock - as if by &lt;em&gt;magic&lt;/em&gt;.



	These &#034;solutions&#034; are latched on to as stable datums, probably more for the benefit of the individual Scnist.&#160; Once he has his stable datum, his piece of Scn Tech that puts order into the confusion, well then he can &lt;em&gt;do &lt;/em&gt;something about it.&#160; Like whip out his credit card and purchase 1000 WTH booklets, because he is convinced it is a solution to the situation.&#160; And he now feels &#034;at cause&#034;, that he &#034;helped&#034;, he did something about it.&#160; On the surface this is an admirable act, and I am sure his intentions are good, but rarely will he follow-up on the results of this &#034;solution&#034;.&#160; Did the booklets ever arrive to Boston?&#160; Did they get handed out to the public?&#160; How many ended up in the gutter? Trash bin?&#160; Real feedback from the general public expressing that this is exactly what is needed and wanted?&#160; Or exactly how WTH is effective in these types of situations?&#160; Does it &lt;em&gt;prevent &lt;/em&gt;future situations?&#160; It is unlikely any of these question will get answered, much less asked.&#160; If you look too closely at the illusion the spell will be broken...as if by magic.



	&#160;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/have-they-no-shame-vultures-circling-boston/#comment-1784">Jethro Bodine</a>.</p>
<p>	While &quot;getting the stats up&quot; is certainly a factor in this, there is the <em>magic </em>aspect.&nbsp; Meaning, if you saturate an area with TWTH booklets, the area will <em>magically </em>destimulate and come uptone.&nbsp; I believe LRH implied something of the sort.&nbsp; I have no first-hand evidence that this is the case.&nbsp; Any reports by RCS (e.g. Columbia, etc) can be counted upon to be embellished, or worse, lies.</p>
<p>	I say this jokingly, but feel there is some truth to it &#8211; the true believing,&nbsp;kool-aid drinking Scnist is predisposed to believing in fantastic, magical things.&nbsp; So, passing out pieced of paper with words on it will &quot;help&quot; human beings who have been physically harmed, emotionally scared, are dazed and confused and more or less in a state of shock &#8211; as if by <em>magic</em>.</p>
<p>	These &quot;solutions&quot; are latched on to as stable datums, probably more for the benefit of the individual Scnist.&nbsp; Once he has his stable datum, his piece of Scn Tech that puts order into the confusion, well then he can <em>do </em>something about it.&nbsp; Like whip out his credit card and purchase 1000 WTH booklets, because he is convinced it is a solution to the situation.&nbsp; And he now feels &quot;at cause&quot;, that he &quot;helped&quot;, he did something about it.&nbsp; On the surface this is an admirable act, and I am sure his intentions are good, but rarely will he follow-up on the results of this &quot;solution&quot;.&nbsp; Did the booklets ever arrive to Boston?&nbsp; Did they get handed out to the public?&nbsp; How many ended up in the gutter? Trash bin?&nbsp; Real feedback from the general public expressing that this is exactly what is needed and wanted?&nbsp; Or exactly how WTH is effective in these types of situations?&nbsp; Does it <em>prevent </em>future situations?&nbsp; It is unlikely any of these question will get answered, much less asked.&nbsp; If you look too closely at the illusion the spell will be broken&#8230;as if by magic.</p>
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		By: MIhai		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MIhai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2013 06:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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	WOW !!!! Simply freaking wow ! I believe vultures won&#039;t eat meat if its too rotten, but these guys will.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>	WOW !!!! Simply freaking wow ! I believe vultures won&#039;t eat meat if its too rotten, but these guys will.</p>
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		By: Jethro Bodine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jethro Bodine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2013 05:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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	Why does the &#034;church&#034; have the exact same response to every disaster? Earthquake? Give them WTH! Tsunmai - Give them WTH! Act of Terrorism - Give them WTH! Every disaster can be handled by a common sense moral code. WTF??? In reality, they do this because the Vulture Culture sees every disaster as a dissemination opportunity and an opportunity to get one&#039;s stats up - very opportunistic and money motivated&#160;to say the least. The &#034;church&#034; also fails to see that anyone outside the church sees this kind of thing as being very slimy, but this so-called &#034;church&#034; has lost it&#039;s moral compass a long time ago. How ironic - those who need to follow the WTH the most are the ones passing it out.



	&#160;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>	Why does the &quot;church&quot; have the exact same response to every disaster? Earthquake? Give them WTH! Tsunmai &#8211; Give them WTH! Act of Terrorism &#8211; Give them WTH! Every disaster can be handled by a common sense moral code. WTF??? In reality, they do this because the Vulture Culture sees every disaster as a dissemination opportunity and an opportunity to get one&#039;s stats up &#8211; very opportunistic and money motivated&nbsp;to say the least. The &quot;church&quot; also fails to see that anyone outside the church sees this kind of thing as being very slimy, but this so-called &quot;church&quot; has lost it&#039;s moral compass a long time ago. How ironic &#8211; those who need to follow the WTH the most are the ones passing it out.</p>
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		By: Globetrotter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Globetrotter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2013 03:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/have-they-no-shame-vultures-circling-boston/#comment-1759&quot;&gt;CommunicatorIC&lt;/a&gt;.


	When what people do &lt;em&gt;looks&lt;/em&gt; stupid, it is often becasue their &lt;em&gt;stated&lt;/em&gt; intentions are different from their &lt;em&gt;real&lt;/em&gt; intentions. They are not &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; stupid, they just seem like they were because the words and the acts don&#039;t match.



	Bridge Publications is part of the Church that says it &#034;helps&#034; people at every disaster. The truth is Bridge is using every disaster to sell books to Scientologists at retail price &#034;to be donated&#034;&#160;(with Bridge making a nice profit on the &#034;charity&#034;) and get &#034;volunteers&#034; to hand them out, along with hatting materials on how to &#034;document&#034; everything they do, turning the disaster into a photo op for the Church that didn&#039;t donate a penny, but actually profited on the disaster.



	The RIGHT thing Bridge SHOULD do if it wasn&#039;t all talk and no walk&#160;would be&#160;to use&#160;part of its profits to donate. Dave bragged about how he made manufacturing costs so low&#160;that it puts the entire industry to shame. &#160;What he didn&#039;t say was that he intends to KEEP the difference for profit - there is NO&#160;humanitarian objective or any of the heavily &lt;em&gt;advertised&lt;/em&gt;, but never &lt;em&gt;done&lt;/em&gt; &#034;charity&#034;.



	&#034;Profiting form disaster - join the Volunteer Minister movement today!&#034;



	&#160;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/have-they-no-shame-vultures-circling-boston/#comment-1759">CommunicatorIC</a>.</p>
<p>	When what people do <em>looks</em> stupid, it is often becasue their <em>stated</em> intentions are different from their <em>real</em> intentions. They are not <em>really</em> stupid, they just seem like they were because the words and the acts don&#039;t match.</p>
<p>	Bridge Publications is part of the Church that says it &quot;helps&quot; people at every disaster. The truth is Bridge is using every disaster to sell books to Scientologists at retail price &quot;to be donated&quot;&nbsp;(with Bridge making a nice profit on the &quot;charity&quot;) and get &quot;volunteers&quot; to hand them out, along with hatting materials on how to &quot;document&quot; everything they do, turning the disaster into a photo op for the Church that didn&#039;t donate a penny, but actually profited on the disaster.</p>
<p>	The RIGHT thing Bridge SHOULD do if it wasn&#039;t all talk and no walk&nbsp;would be&nbsp;to use&nbsp;part of its profits to donate. Dave bragged about how he made manufacturing costs so low&nbsp;that it puts the entire industry to shame. &nbsp;What he didn&#039;t say was that he intends to KEEP the difference for profit &#8211; there is NO&nbsp;humanitarian objective or any of the heavily <em>advertised</em>, but never <em>done</em> &quot;charity&quot;.</p>
<p>	&quot;Profiting form disaster &#8211; join the Volunteer Minister movement today!&quot;</p>
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		By: Ronnie Bell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2013 01:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/have-they-no-shame-vultures-circling-boston/#comment-1764&quot;&gt;Graduated&lt;/a&gt;.


	Exactly. Imagine some Christian church showing up at such a tragedy and passing out their religious tracts. Any sane person would rightfully be repulsed by such a thoughtless attempt at promotion.



	Things like this just further illuminate how grossly out of touch the church is with the rest of the world.
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<p>	Exactly. Imagine some Christian church showing up at such a tragedy and passing out their religious tracts. Any sane person would rightfully be repulsed by such a thoughtless attempt at promotion.</p>
<p>	Things like this just further illuminate how grossly out of touch the church is with the rest of the world.</p>
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