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		By: Angry Gay Pope		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-empty-is-scientology/#comment-423313</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angry Gay Pope]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2021 19:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-empty-is-scientology/#comment-422501&quot;&gt;Real&lt;/a&gt;.

We argue in the comments here assuming DM won&#039;t see the discussion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-empty-is-scientology/#comment-422501">Real</a>.</p>
<p>We argue in the comments here assuming DM won&#8217;t see the discussion.</p>
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		By: Real		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Real]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2021 15:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-empty-is-scientology/#comment-419219&quot;&gt;Angry Gay Pope&lt;/a&gt;.

where did Mike say he disagreed about your protesting?????
I&#039;ve never seen him say that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-empty-is-scientology/#comment-419219">Angry Gay Pope</a>.</p>
<p>where did Mike say he disagreed about your protesting?????<br />
I&#8217;ve never seen him say that.</p>
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		By: Real		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Real]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2021 15:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-empty-is-scientology/#comment-419459&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t know Peacemaker.  All I DO know is that Flog is also empty.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-empty-is-scientology/#comment-419459">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know Peacemaker.  All I DO know is that Flog is also empty.</p>
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		By: Real		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Real]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2021 15:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-empty-is-scientology/#comment-419802&quot;&gt;Maria Mccartan&lt;/a&gt;.

no Maria, the sheep have ZERO info on what DM does or doesn&#039;t do on the &quot;Bridge&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-empty-is-scientology/#comment-419802">Maria Mccartan</a>.</p>
<p>no Maria, the sheep have ZERO info on what DM does or doesn&#8217;t do on the &#8220;Bridge&#8221;.</p>
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		By: KM Kazmierczak		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2021 00:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It was pretty empty, I was there I think in 2019 or 18. It wasn&#039;t dead but it certainly isn&#039;t what you would expect.

You could see that there was not a whole lot of public around however there was a steady trickle.

I was at one of the hotles near the Celeb center and I don&#039;t think there was another soul in the hotel, at least I didn&#039;t meet anyone or saw anyone.

Anyway when I was getting my initial interview and C/Sing I was sent to do my current course and I kid you not the supervisor was so close I though she was trying to fall on top of me.

It was a pretty girl, she was either dizy, horny or trying to get my hands to go where they didn&#039;t belong; there was no one else in the course room from what I remember. In the back of my mind I&#039;m thinking where is everyone. Luckily i was there only once. Thank god cause I don&#039;t think my hands would have stayed still; I was back in Ethics writing up dirt for the MAA on myself, writing overts the next day cause that was part of the next step plus a $30k tech estimate for a SecCheck.

Lucky for me I didn&#039;t have it so it never got taken however I did find myself the proud owner of a mostly complete set of books and lectures worth about $10K. Thats a very expensive piece of trash and I hope the dump appreciates my contribution.

Anyway it was a dead zone, There is another org in the area and that event was packed, easily a thousand people but I don&#039;t know how many of these were staff.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was pretty empty, I was there I think in 2019 or 18. It wasn&#8217;t dead but it certainly isn&#8217;t what you would expect.</p>
<p>You could see that there was not a whole lot of public around however there was a steady trickle.</p>
<p>I was at one of the hotles near the Celeb center and I don&#8217;t think there was another soul in the hotel, at least I didn&#8217;t meet anyone or saw anyone.</p>
<p>Anyway when I was getting my initial interview and C/Sing I was sent to do my current course and I kid you not the supervisor was so close I though she was trying to fall on top of me.</p>
<p>It was a pretty girl, she was either dizy, horny or trying to get my hands to go where they didn&#8217;t belong; there was no one else in the course room from what I remember. In the back of my mind I&#8217;m thinking where is everyone. Luckily i was there only once. Thank god cause I don&#8217;t think my hands would have stayed still; I was back in Ethics writing up dirt for the MAA on myself, writing overts the next day cause that was part of the next step plus a $30k tech estimate for a SecCheck.</p>
<p>Lucky for me I didn&#8217;t have it so it never got taken however I did find myself the proud owner of a mostly complete set of books and lectures worth about $10K. Thats a very expensive piece of trash and I hope the dump appreciates my contribution.</p>
<p>Anyway it was a dead zone, There is another org in the area and that event was packed, easily a thousand people but I don&#8217;t know how many of these were staff.</p>
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		By: Maria Mccartan		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-empty-is-scientology/#comment-419804</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maria Mccartan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2021 08:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-empty-is-scientology/#comment-418350&quot;&gt;Doug Sprinkle&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank god! I really hope the demise continues]]></description>
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<p>Thank god! I really hope the demise continues</p>
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		By: Maria Mccartan		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-empty-is-scientology/#comment-419802</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maria Mccartan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2021 08:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-empty-is-scientology/#comment-419175&quot;&gt;Real&lt;/a&gt;.

When the leader himself doesn&#039;t bother to show up to climb the bridge,  I&#039;m wondering are the sheep starting to take notice? Or if they just aren&#039;t many sheep left.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-empty-is-scientology/#comment-419175">Real</a>.</p>
<p>When the leader himself doesn&#8217;t bother to show up to climb the bridge,  I&#8217;m wondering are the sheep starting to take notice? Or if they just aren&#8217;t many sheep left&#8230;..</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-empty-is-scientology/#comment-419459</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeaceMaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2021 17:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-empty-is-scientology/#comment-419178&quot;&gt;Real&lt;/a&gt;.

Real, recently there have been several reports of members giving up on their local orgs and moving to the Flage &quot;mecca&quot; -- with indications that the total number may be in the hundreds.  Do we know for certain that hasn&#039;t at least temporarily propped up Flag&#039;s business?

I can see that might not be enough to overcome recent downtrends exacerbated by the pandemic.  And even if it does, the effect may not last, as it seems that over time there has been a continuous trickle of members into Clearwater but no real increase in local presence, as it&#039;s apparently balanced out by by defections from disappointment and disilusionment over what they find &quot;mecca&quot; is actually like, once they get there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-empty-is-scientology/#comment-419178">Real</a>.</p>
<p>Real, recently there have been several reports of members giving up on their local orgs and moving to the Flage &#8220;mecca&#8221; &#8212; with indications that the total number may be in the hundreds.  Do we know for certain that hasn&#8217;t at least temporarily propped up Flag&#8217;s business?</p>
<p>I can see that might not be enough to overcome recent downtrends exacerbated by the pandemic.  And even if it does, the effect may not last, as it seems that over time there has been a continuous trickle of members into Clearwater but no real increase in local presence, as it&#8217;s apparently balanced out by by defections from disappointment and disilusionment over what they find &#8220;mecca&#8221; is actually like, once they get there.</p>
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		By: Angry Gay Pope		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-empty-is-scientology/#comment-419219</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angry Gay Pope]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2021 18:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-empty-is-scientology/#comment-419115&quot;&gt;ExTeamXenu75to03&lt;/a&gt;.

Tell that to Mike Rinder he disagrees with you about my work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-empty-is-scientology/#comment-419115">ExTeamXenu75to03</a>.</p>
<p>Tell that to Mike Rinder he disagrees with you about my work.</p>
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		By: Real		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-empty-is-scientology/#comment-419178</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Real]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2021 15:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-empty-is-scientology/#comment-418373&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

No Peacemaker.  Flag is also empty.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-empty-is-scientology/#comment-418373">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>No Peacemaker.  Flag is also empty.</p>
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