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		By: Garry Scarff		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Garry Scarff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2014 21:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-far-the-freewinds-has-sunk/#comment-55188&quot;&gt;zephfyrus&lt;/a&gt;.

The mission was on LaCienega Blvd in the late 80s to mid 90s. It moved to the Charleville Blvd address in Beverly Hills where Vanessa Stoller was the Mission Holder. She was later Comm Ev&#039;d on some trumped up charges.  The Charleville location is now closed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-far-the-freewinds-has-sunk/#comment-55188">zephfyrus</a>.</p>
<p>The mission was on LaCienega Blvd in the late 80s to mid 90s. It moved to the Charleville Blvd address in Beverly Hills where Vanessa Stoller was the Mission Holder. She was later Comm Ev&#8217;d on some trumped up charges.  The Charleville location is now closed.</p>
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		By: zephfyrus		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2014 03:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-far-the-freewinds-has-sunk/#comment-54595&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;i&gt; ” Because Scientology has such a bad reputation in BH &lt;/i&gt;

The Beverly Hills mission was located on La Cienega Blvd on the second floor of an older building. The mission holder was Vanessa Bellemaine (sp?) and the CS was Hugh Witt (sp?). I had some auditing there and had an overall good experience.]]></description>
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<p><i> ” Because Scientology has such a bad reputation in BH </i></p>
<p>The Beverly Hills mission was located on La Cienega Blvd on the second floor of an older building. The mission holder was Vanessa Bellemaine (sp?) and the CS was Hugh Witt (sp?). I had some auditing there and had an overall good experience.</p>
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		By: glenn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2014 04:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One of the things I began to notice in my &quot;exiting years&quot; was how all the services, events and even the promotional materials that came in the mail offered only to help one keep going (drinking the koolaid) and pay more.  What was glaringly absent were results and abilities being promote that one could take out into life and use.  The promo for this event smacks of the same bullshit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things I began to notice in my &#8220;exiting years&#8221; was how all the services, events and even the promotional materials that came in the mail offered only to help one keep going (drinking the koolaid) and pay more.  What was glaringly absent were results and abilities being promote that one could take out into life and use.  The promo for this event smacks of the same bullshit.</p>
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		By: threefeetback		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-far-the-freewinds-has-sunk/#comment-54737</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2014 03:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-far-the-freewinds-has-sunk/#comment-54647&quot;&gt;OTVIIIisGrrr8!&lt;/a&gt;.

Grrr8!, Perhaps you should have Dave make a suprise appearance to yank a ribbon or pull some strings.]]></description>
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<p>Grrr8!, Perhaps you should have Dave make a suprise appearance to yank a ribbon or pull some strings.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2014 20:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-far-the-freewinds-has-sunk/#comment-54613&quot;&gt;Jose Chung&lt;/a&gt;.

So true Jose!  And I just found out that they no longer offer the OT Debug on the Ship now.  There was a lot of delivery that had to be done on the OT Debug, things like word clearing, making up tailored study cycles, using jQual, auditing, CSing, etc.  Too much labor intensive exchange that the Ship would have to do, so they cancelled the Debug.  Also maybe the debugs weren&#039;t working and they didn&#039;t want many people going home and scratching their head saying, &quot;hmmm, the OT Debug didn&#039;t work on me...&quot; and figuring out it was not working, which might lead to reading on the internet, the highest crime of all!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-far-the-freewinds-has-sunk/#comment-54613">Jose Chung</a>.</p>
<p>So true Jose!  And I just found out that they no longer offer the OT Debug on the Ship now.  There was a lot of delivery that had to be done on the OT Debug, things like word clearing, making up tailored study cycles, using jQual, auditing, CSing, etc.  Too much labor intensive exchange that the Ship would have to do, so they cancelled the Debug.  Also maybe the debugs weren&#8217;t working and they didn&#8217;t want many people going home and scratching their head saying, &#8220;hmmm, the OT Debug didn&#8217;t work on me&#8230;&#8221; and figuring out it was not working, which might lead to reading on the internet, the highest crime of all!</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2014 20:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-far-the-freewinds-has-sunk/#comment-54656&quot;&gt;Cooper J Kessel&lt;/a&gt;.

Gavin has tried to make himself into a mini-me if the cob. But I think the reason the title &quot;Mr&quot; is now absent from his name is because cob reads the blogs and reads the fun we make of &quot;Mr Potter&quot; on Mike&#039;s blog.  And there have been other changes that were made after he read people making fun of or commenting on stuff on the blogs, some subtle, some not as much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-far-the-freewinds-has-sunk/#comment-54656">Cooper J Kessel</a>.</p>
<p>Gavin has tried to make himself into a mini-me if the cob. But I think the reason the title &#8220;Mr&#8221; is now absent from his name is because cob reads the blogs and reads the fun we make of &#8220;Mr Potter&#8221; on Mike&#8217;s blog.  And there have been other changes that were made after he read people making fun of or commenting on stuff on the blogs, some subtle, some not as much.</p>
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		By: ThetaPotata		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ThetaPotata]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2014 16:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-far-the-freewinds-has-sunk/#comment-54594&quot;&gt;Kevin&lt;/a&gt;.

I love it. Time to go back and do the KTL again.]]></description>
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<p>I love it. Time to go back and do the KTL again.</p>
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		By: Cooper J Kessel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cooper J Kessel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2014 13:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-far-the-freewinds-has-sunk/#comment-54641&quot;&gt;Joe Pendleton&lt;/a&gt;.

My perceptions align with yours.  You can rest assured that if Gavin fails to bring home the bacon there will be a lot more adjectives in front of his name!    I&#039;d love to be a fly on the wall to see which whale has been cut from the herd and prepared for the harpoon. If we knew perhaps we could fire a shot across the bow and scare em off.  

Amazing how much he resembles Chairman of the Bored.]]></description>
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<p>My perceptions align with yours.  You can rest assured that if Gavin fails to bring home the bacon there will be a lot more adjectives in front of his name!    I&#8217;d love to be a fly on the wall to see which whale has been cut from the herd and prepared for the harpoon. If we knew perhaps we could fire a shot across the bow and scare em off.  </p>
<p>Amazing how much he resembles Chairman of the Bored.</p>
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		By: Cooper J Kessel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cooper J Kessel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2014 13:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-far-the-freewinds-has-sunk/#comment-54610&quot;&gt;Cooper Kessel&lt;/a&gt;.

I understand.  Amazing how such a small being can generate large emotional responses. I think that is why he functions as he does.  Carry on mate...................]]></description>
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<p>I understand.  Amazing how such a small being can generate large emotional responses. I think that is why he functions as he does.  Carry on mate&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Woodrose		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2014 10:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the info.  So sad to hear that your in-laws are still firmly inside their mental prison.

I just recently read &quot;Blown For Good&quot; (yeah, I&#039;m behind the times. Better Late Than Never).  Great read, I highly recommend it to everyone.  I finished it wishing that everyone you&#039;d worked with could escape, too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info.  So sad to hear that your in-laws are still firmly inside their mental prison.</p>
<p>I just recently read &#8220;Blown For Good&#8221; (yeah, I&#8217;m behind the times. Better Late Than Never).  Great read, I highly recommend it to everyone.  I finished it wishing that everyone you&#8217;d worked with could escape, too.</p>
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