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		By: Kimo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kimo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2023 22:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder -- does the Church of Scientology count the LAPD as an &quot;affiliated group?&quot; The Clearwater police department? 

I bet they do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder &#8212; does the Church of Scientology count the LAPD as an &#8220;affiliated group?&#8221; The Clearwater police department? </p>
<p>I bet they do.</p>
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		By: Komodo Dragon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Komodo Dragon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2023 20:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-many-churches-of-scientology-in-the-world/#comment-523655&quot;&gt;MJM&lt;/a&gt;.

All show, no go.  ATNA (all talk, no action).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-many-churches-of-scientology-in-the-world/#comment-523655">MJM</a>.</p>
<p>All show, no go.  ATNA (all talk, no action).</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeaceMaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2023 18:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-many-churches-of-scientology-in-the-world/#comment-523710&quot;&gt;PickAnotherID&lt;/a&gt;.

Pick, I&#039;d classify the count as including those &quot;barely operating&quot;, but not those that are really closed - with just a couple of possible exceptions.  I&#039;m guessing that a few like the old mission in New Hampshire have reverted to just being the private practices of &quot;field auditors&quot; who see long-term clients but are not really open to new &quot;public&quot;, and yet still gets counted as open because it functions (and produces revenue) to some extent.  Then there are a good number that the CofS doesn&#039;t claim formally because they are for all intents and purposes really closed - if they ever even opened at all - and yet which are corporations in good standing in their states with addresses such as P.O. boxes, and that sometimes show up in other business searches.

And yes, it&#039;s definitely even a Southern California phenomenon in particular.  If not for the accident of history of Flag having been established on the East coast when Hubbard&#039;s Mediterranean and Atlantic coast fleet was looking for a land base, and now the shrinking membership consolidating in Florida (with many devoted members from the LA moving or retiring there), it would be even more obvious.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-many-churches-of-scientology-in-the-world/#comment-523710">PickAnotherID</a>.</p>
<p>Pick, I&#8217;d classify the count as including those &#8220;barely operating&#8221;, but not those that are really closed &#8211; with just a couple of possible exceptions.  I&#8217;m guessing that a few like the old mission in New Hampshire have reverted to just being the private practices of &#8220;field auditors&#8221; who see long-term clients but are not really open to new &#8220;public&#8221;, and yet still gets counted as open because it functions (and produces revenue) to some extent.  Then there are a good number that the CofS doesn&#8217;t claim formally because they are for all intents and purposes really closed &#8211; if they ever even opened at all &#8211; and yet which are corporations in good standing in their states with addresses such as P.O. boxes, and that sometimes show up in other business searches.</p>
<p>And yes, it&#8217;s definitely even a Southern California phenomenon in particular.  If not for the accident of history of Flag having been established on the East coast when Hubbard&#8217;s Mediterranean and Atlantic coast fleet was looking for a land base, and now the shrinking membership consolidating in Florida (with many devoted members from the LA moving or retiring there), it would be even more obvious.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2023 14:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-many-churches-of-scientology-in-the-world/#comment-523703&quot;&gt;Sparkay&lt;/a&gt;.

No idea sorry… I doubt she is on a reward program though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-many-churches-of-scientology-in-the-world/#comment-523703">Sparkay</a>.</p>
<p>No idea sorry… I doubt she is on a reward program though.</p>
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		By: PickAnotherID		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PickAnotherID]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2023 13:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-many-churches-of-scientology-in-the-world/#comment-523688&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

As I menetioned, I believe many of those locations are closed, or barely operating, but are kept alive with IRS filings just for the &quot;stat&quot; numbers.

And most of those California orgs and missions are concentrated within 15 miles of Los Angeles, not scattered all over the state.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-many-churches-of-scientology-in-the-world/#comment-523688">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>As I menetioned, I believe many of those locations are closed, or barely operating, but are kept alive with IRS filings just for the &#8220;stat&#8221; numbers.</p>
<p>And most of those California orgs and missions are concentrated within 15 miles of Los Angeles, not scattered all over the state.</p>
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		By: Sparkay		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2023 11:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Off topic. Mike, I was told Vicki Dunstan, former President of Scientology in Australia is now in the U.S. Would she be on the RPF ? Her ex husband was on RPF there many years ago. The cult is circling the drain here. She is a dyed in the wool Kool Aid drinker. Any idea ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic. Mike, I was told Vicki Dunstan, former President of Scientology in Australia is now in the U.S. Would she be on the RPF ? Her ex husband was on RPF there many years ago. The cult is circling the drain here. She is a dyed in the wool Kool Aid drinker. Any idea ?</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeaceMaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2023 02:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-many-churches-of-scientology-in-the-world/#comment-523673&quot;&gt;PickAnotherID&lt;/a&gt;.

Pick, NE would include the missions in Maine and upstate New York that are on life support in little office spaces with no listed hours, and presumably the essentially defunct one in New Hampshire that moved in the franchisee&#039;s home years ago and isn&#039;t even listed in the CofS official locator.  The rest of the US is much the same from what I&#039;ve found, with a mere handful of missions still having conventional storefront type locations and regular hours, and Clearwater being the only one that does anything near the level of business many once did.

And as Yawn helpfully informs us in an earlier comment, there are probably many missions of a sort that are little more than boxes of materials in someone&#039;s back room - I have found signs of that type of entity when I have done corporate record searches.  Those probably get counted in CofS claims when convenient.

We can also see from the regional groupings, just how much a California phenomenon Scientology really is - and always has been - and that it has very little presence in the heartland of the US, with the central areas of the country lumped in with the coasts.  Thanks for this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-many-churches-of-scientology-in-the-world/#comment-523673">PickAnotherID</a>.</p>
<p>Pick, NE would include the missions in Maine and upstate New York that are on life support in little office spaces with no listed hours, and presumably the essentially defunct one in New Hampshire that moved in the franchisee&#8217;s home years ago and isn&#8217;t even listed in the CofS official locator.  The rest of the US is much the same from what I&#8217;ve found, with a mere handful of missions still having conventional storefront type locations and regular hours, and Clearwater being the only one that does anything near the level of business many once did.</p>
<p>And as Yawn helpfully informs us in an earlier comment, there are probably many missions of a sort that are little more than boxes of materials in someone&#8217;s back room &#8211; I have found signs of that type of entity when I have done corporate record searches.  Those probably get counted in CofS claims when convenient.</p>
<p>We can also see from the regional groupings, just how much a California phenomenon Scientology really is &#8211; and always has been &#8211; and that it has very little presence in the heartland of the US, with the central areas of the country lumped in with the coasts.  Thanks for this.</p>
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		By: Denny Owen, aka: Imhotep		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Denny Owen, aka: Imhotep]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2023 23:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[But Mike ... SOMETHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT. 

David Miscavige, realizing how desperate the situation is, has now approved a radical new plan to increase membership in every strip shopping center across the United States ... and soon around the world.

https://twitter.com/SemiScientology/status/1657207602043064320]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Mike &#8230; SOMETHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT. </p>
<p>David Miscavige, realizing how desperate the situation is, has now approved a radical new plan to increase membership in every strip shopping center across the United States &#8230; and soon around the world.</p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/SemiScientology/status/1657207602043064320" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/SemiScientology/status/1657207602043064320</a></p>
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		By: Phillip		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phillip]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2023 23:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good info.
Unfortunately those who need to hear this (and acknowledge it) will continue to turn deaf ears and blind eyes to the facts because it&#039;s not what they want to hear or see.

Reminds me of a grandchild who pretends he&#039;s a dinosaur (RRRROW).  It&#039;s cute and we play along.  $ci. pretends they&#039;re doing good and growing and the sheeple play along, unfortunately it&#039;s not cute but it is destructive.

PS I&#039;d guess they count FEMA, the Red Cross, 1,000&#039;s of Police, Fire and school units, etc as affiliated groups.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good info.<br />
Unfortunately those who need to hear this (and acknowledge it) will continue to turn deaf ears and blind eyes to the facts because it&#8217;s not what they want to hear or see.</p>
<p>Reminds me of a grandchild who pretends he&#8217;s a dinosaur (RRRROW).  It&#8217;s cute and we play along.  $ci. pretends they&#8217;re doing good and growing and the sheeple play along, unfortunately it&#8217;s not cute but it is destructive.</p>
<p>PS I&#8217;d guess they count FEMA, the Red Cross, 1,000&#8217;s of Police, Fire and school units, etc as affiliated groups.</p>
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		By: PickAnotherID		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PickAnotherID]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2023 20:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[According to the IRS Exempt Organization database, as of 05/08/2023 the Org/Mission breakout in the US is:

7 Orgs 3 Missions in the Northeast region
7 Orgs 3 Missions in the Mid-Atlanitc - Great Lakes region
63 Orgs 22 Missions in the Gulf Coast - Pacific Coast region
1 Org 0 Missions in Puerto Rico

78 Orgs 28 Missions total

Keep in mind a number of these, Missions in particular, may actually be closed but are kept alive with the IRS to keep the &quot;stats&quot; up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the IRS Exempt Organization database, as of 05/08/2023 the Org/Mission breakout in the US is:</p>
<p>7 Orgs 3 Missions in the Northeast region<br />
7 Orgs 3 Missions in the Mid-Atlanitc &#8211; Great Lakes region<br />
63 Orgs 22 Missions in the Gulf Coast &#8211; Pacific Coast region<br />
1 Org 0 Missions in Puerto Rico</p>
<p>78 Orgs 28 Missions total</p>
<p>Keep in mind a number of these, Missions in particular, may actually be closed but are kept alive with the IRS to keep the &#8220;stats&#8221; up.</p>
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