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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 10:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-to-talk-to-friends-and-family-about-scientology/#comment-300019&quot;&gt;Jenyfurrr&lt;/a&gt;.

STLSuzy and Furry Jen,
Thank you and hugs to both of you.<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f601.png" alt="😁" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-to-talk-to-friends-and-family-about-scientology/#comment-300019">Jenyfurrr</a>.</p>
<p>STLSuzy and Furry Jen,<br />
Thank you and hugs to both of you.😁</p>
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		By: Jenyfurrr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenyfurrr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Sep 2019 23:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-to-talk-to-friends-and-family-about-scientology/#comment-299748&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;.

Preach! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f64c-1f3fc.png" alt="🙌🏼" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />
Seriously - that’s spot on! Hopefully some lurkers/UTR’s will read and ponder. 

Hugs to you, Mark (baby says hi, too LOL)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-to-talk-to-friends-and-family-about-scientology/#comment-299748">Mark</a>.</p>
<p>Preach! 🙌🏼<br />
Seriously &#8211; that’s spot on! Hopefully some lurkers/UTR’s will read and ponder. </p>
<p>Hugs to you, Mark (baby says hi, too LOL)</p>
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		By: STLSuzy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[STLSuzy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Sep 2019 20:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-to-talk-to-friends-and-family-about-scientology/#comment-299748&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;.

Amen Mark!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-to-talk-to-friends-and-family-about-scientology/#comment-299748">Mark</a>.</p>
<p>Amen Mark!!!</p>
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		By: Roger Larsson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Larsson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2019 11:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[60+ are closer to the death than to the birth. Will they arrive to implant statons at Venus and Mars or will they start all over again on Earth in CofS? 

When all the critics are finally  gone they return to the soup and keeps the blood bleeding.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>60+ are closer to the death than to the birth. Will they arrive to implant statons at Venus and Mars or will they start all over again on Earth in CofS? </p>
<p>When all the critics are finally  gone they return to the soup and keeps the blood bleeding.</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2019 10:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t it ironic that the possessors and practitoners of the technology that is allegedly senior to and cause over life itself cannot apply some of its basic tenets and concepts to conversing with non-scientologists, ex-scientologists, and so-called &quot; sp&#039;s&quot;?
I don&#039;t believe that scientology has ANY redeeming value, yet I can still power up the loaded language, clear my throat( whilst suppressing the urge to vomit ), and wonder out loud:

Regarding the lawsuits and other controversies the church faces, can any scientologists actually CONFRONT the time,place,form,and event elements of the data being presented? Can they be pan-determined enough to realize that a group(them!) that insists IT IS ALWAYS RIGHT AND IS ALWAYS BEING UNFAIRLY ATTACKED AND IS ALSO NEVER,EVER WRONG is running service facsimiles and has numerous overts and withholds? Can they NOT ONLY demonstrate a knows-best, hostile and/or sarcastic, ad hominem stance(&quot;low-toned&quot;) when presented with extensively documented, empirical evidence of their group&#039;s abuses? Are they not free to observe and adhere to the code of a scientologist, which asserts the right of ALL PEOPLE to freely discuss, comment on, and debate any ideas, issues, events, etc. that they choose to? Can&#039;t they bring their highly-touted and much-bragged-about &quot;theta and postulates&quot; to bear on interactions with critics, instead of harassing them and engaging in criminal acts to &quot;utterly ruin&quot; them? Why can&#039;t the operating thetans in scientology, who are supposedly &quot;at willing and knowing cause over life,matter, energy,space, and time- subjective and objective&quot; bring into a being a golden age of scientological renaissance, free of criminality, insanity, and a war on the human rights of its members and critics? 
So many questions. So much culty cognitive dissonance,delusion,stupidity,and suffering...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it ironic that the possessors and practitoners of the technology that is allegedly senior to and cause over life itself cannot apply some of its basic tenets and concepts to conversing with non-scientologists, ex-scientologists, and so-called &#8221; sp&#8217;s&#8221;?<br />
I don&#8217;t believe that scientology has ANY redeeming value, yet I can still power up the loaded language, clear my throat( whilst suppressing the urge to vomit ), and wonder out loud:</p>
<p>Regarding the lawsuits and other controversies the church faces, can any scientologists actually CONFRONT the time,place,form,and event elements of the data being presented? Can they be pan-determined enough to realize that a group(them!) that insists IT IS ALWAYS RIGHT AND IS ALWAYS BEING UNFAIRLY ATTACKED AND IS ALSO NEVER,EVER WRONG is running service facsimiles and has numerous overts and withholds? Can they NOT ONLY demonstrate a knows-best, hostile and/or sarcastic, ad hominem stance(&#8220;low-toned&#8221;) when presented with extensively documented, empirical evidence of their group&#8217;s abuses? Are they not free to observe and adhere to the code of a scientologist, which asserts the right of ALL PEOPLE to freely discuss, comment on, and debate any ideas, issues, events, etc. that they choose to? Can&#8217;t they bring their highly-touted and much-bragged-about &#8220;theta and postulates&#8221; to bear on interactions with critics, instead of harassing them and engaging in criminal acts to &#8220;utterly ruin&#8221; them? Why can&#8217;t the operating thetans in scientology, who are supposedly &#8220;at willing and knowing cause over life,matter, energy,space, and time- subjective and objective&#8221; bring into a being a golden age of scientological renaissance, free of criminality, insanity, and a war on the human rights of its members and critics?<br />
So many questions. So much culty cognitive dissonance,delusion,stupidity,and suffering&#8230;</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeaceMaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2019 04:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From what I remember of such things, it&#039;s about focusing on subjective &quot;wins&quot; and deflecting any questions about even the details of practices and teachings, much less everything troubling from the high costs to the truly disturbing abuses.

I can only guess that there&#039;s a bit of updated spin about trying to get people to watch the Scientology channel - but that would still only be a variation of the old &quot;read a book and see for yourself,&quot; and like trying to actually plow through one of Hubbard&#039;s increasingly dated messes most people are just going to find it off-putting if not strange.

Nowadays I wouldn&#039;t be surprised that such an event took advantage of an opportunity for an indoctrination booster and some loyalty-checking, along with fundraising supposedly for efforts like pamphlets or books - it&#039;s easier to imagine supporting some effort somewhere else, than confronting friends and acquaintances.

Thanks as always for your thoughts, Terra.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I remember of such things, it&#8217;s about focusing on subjective &#8220;wins&#8221; and deflecting any questions about even the details of practices and teachings, much less everything troubling from the high costs to the truly disturbing abuses.</p>
<p>I can only guess that there&#8217;s a bit of updated spin about trying to get people to watch the Scientology channel &#8211; but that would still only be a variation of the old &#8220;read a book and see for yourself,&#8221; and like trying to actually plow through one of Hubbard&#8217;s increasingly dated messes most people are just going to find it off-putting if not strange.</p>
<p>Nowadays I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised that such an event took advantage of an opportunity for an indoctrination booster and some loyalty-checking, along with fundraising supposedly for efforts like pamphlets or books &#8211; it&#8217;s easier to imagine supporting some effort somewhere else, than confronting friends and acquaintances.</p>
<p>Thanks as always for your thoughts, Terra.</p>
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		By: Skyler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skyler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2019 22:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-to-talk-to-friends-and-family-about-scientology/#comment-299632&quot;&gt;Chris Shugart&lt;/a&gt;.

Nice paraphrasing Chris.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-to-talk-to-friends-and-family-about-scientology/#comment-299632">Chris Shugart</a>.</p>
<p>Nice paraphrasing Chris.</p>
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		By: Briget		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Briget]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2019 21:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-to-talk-to-friends-and-family-about-scientology/#comment-299620&quot;&gt;George M White&lt;/a&gt;.

I absolutely agree. &quot;There are none so blind as those who will not see.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-to-talk-to-friends-and-family-about-scientology/#comment-299620">George M White</a>.</p>
<p>I absolutely agree. &#8220;There are none so blind as those who will not see.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Briget		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Briget]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2019 21:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-to-talk-to-friends-and-family-about-scientology/#comment-299632&quot;&gt;Chris Shugart&lt;/a&gt;.

THIS CULT HAS CEASED TO BE!!! (We wish!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-to-talk-to-friends-and-family-about-scientology/#comment-299632">Chris Shugart</a>.</p>
<p>THIS CULT HAS CEASED TO BE!!! (We wish!)</p>
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		By: Imaberrated		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Imaberrated]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2019 21:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Growing up, I could never talk to anybody about Scientology because it was &quot;too weird&quot; to explain (the exact words I used to describe the problem, not &quot;too hard&quot;). It was for this reason that I didn’t spend time with my school friends outside of school.

I didn’t make the connection that Scientology being &quot;too weird&quot; to explain is because it was too weird to be involved in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Growing up, I could never talk to anybody about Scientology because it was &#8220;too weird&#8221; to explain (the exact words I used to describe the problem, not &#8220;too hard&#8221;). It was for this reason that I didn’t spend time with my school friends outside of school.</p>
<p>I didn’t make the connection that Scientology being &#8220;too weird&#8221; to explain is because it was too weird to be involved in.</p>
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