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		By: The Oracle		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-dox-read-tony-ortegas-blog-today/#comment-3236</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 07:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-dox-read-tony-ortegas-blog-today/#comment-3235&quot;&gt;The Oracle&lt;/a&gt;.

In David&#039;s own sadistic way I am sure he took the overwhelm of Brian as a personal win.  Well, I have no intention of bashing or degrading Brian.  Frankly David, what you did to that man sickens me. One of these days, you will be all alone someplace, and in the dark, with only yourself to live with there. And it will be YOU, for your only company.  That is when the justice will kick in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZE5_sc0keU]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-dox-read-tony-ortegas-blog-today/#comment-3235">The Oracle</a>.</p>
<p>In David&#8217;s own sadistic way I am sure he took the overwhelm of Brian as a personal win.  Well, I have no intention of bashing or degrading Brian.  Frankly David, what you did to that man sickens me. One of these days, you will be all alone someplace, and in the dark, with only yourself to live with there. And it will be YOU, for your only company.  That is when the justice will kick in.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZE5_sc0keU" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZE5_sc0keU</a></p>
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		By: The Oracle		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-dox-read-tony-ortegas-blog-today/#comment-3235</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 03:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The latest is a hair raiser:

Brian Culkin takes Church payola  to turn on Marty and Mike and throw Louis and his wife (And everyone else who could have gotten a refund based on this outcome)  under the bus.

See what the Church can do?   Wear down and overwhelm a man to the tune of 350K in DONATIONS,  giving him NOTHING in exchange!

Then, turn him into an instrument to harm attack and suppress others to obtain some of it back. Just degrade him right down into a blatant treason condition.

This is how the Church helps one &quot;improve conditions&quot;  in their life these days?

LAUGHTER!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The latest is a hair raiser:</p>
<p>Brian Culkin takes Church payola  to turn on Marty and Mike and throw Louis and his wife (And everyone else who could have gotten a refund based on this outcome)  under the bus.</p>
<p>See what the Church can do?   Wear down and overwhelm a man to the tune of 350K in DONATIONS,  giving him NOTHING in exchange!</p>
<p>Then, turn him into an instrument to harm attack and suppress others to obtain some of it back. Just degrade him right down into a blatant treason condition.</p>
<p>This is how the Church helps one &#8220;improve conditions&#8221;  in their life these days?</p>
<p>LAUGHTER!</p>
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		By: jeb		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 00:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why would anyone not agree with Tony;s perspective? He has been very respectful of the independent movement. Is it because he posts documents and videos of LRH in his own words that you would disagree with? Just wondering.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would anyone not agree with Tony;s perspective? He has been very respectful of the independent movement. Is it because he posts documents and videos of LRH in his own words that you would disagree with? Just wondering.</p>
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		By: CommunicatorIC		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-dox-read-tony-ortegas-blog-today/#comment-3233</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 23:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-dox-read-tony-ortegas-blog-today/#comment-3220&quot;&gt;Ronnie Bell&lt;/a&gt;.

Just wanted to add that I&#039;m gong to STOP attaching to my name whichever blog I am cross-posting from or linking to.  I previously did it as a matter of convenience, thinking whoever clicked on my name would be taken to the original blog post, news article, etc. of interest or under discussion.  I didn&#039;t realize it could be confusing or cause mis-attribution.  Now that I do,, I will stop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-dox-read-tony-ortegas-blog-today/#comment-3220">Ronnie Bell</a>.</p>
<p>Just wanted to add that I&#8217;m gong to STOP attaching to my name whichever blog I am cross-posting from or linking to.  I previously did it as a matter of convenience, thinking whoever clicked on my name would be taken to the original blog post, news article, etc. of interest or under discussion.  I didn&#8217;t realize it could be confusing or cause mis-attribution.  Now that I do,, I will stop.</p>
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		By: CommunicatorIC		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-dox-read-tony-ortegas-blog-today/#comment-3232</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 23:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-dox-read-tony-ortegas-blog-today/#comment-3220&quot;&gt;Ronnie Bell&lt;/a&gt;.

Ronnie,

I certainly didn&#039;t intend any offense, not did I intend to post Anette&#039;s blog as an &quot;advertisement.&quot;  As I said in my comment, I posted it simply because I thought Anette&#039;s blog might be of interest to people here.

As for noting that I did not (and do not) know about Anette&#039;s religious leanings, I was just trying to be honest, transparent and provide notice that people here might not like EVERYTHING they might see there.  (I don&#039;t know either way; Anette&#039;s blog is new.)  I try not to cross-post material that is purely critical of the religion or the applied religious philosophy of Scientology (as opposed to the corporate Church of Scientology) here because that would be inappropriate and offensive.  Because Anette said she would also address what was &quot;good about Scientology,” I thought it was appropriate and maybe beneficial to inform Mike&#039;s audience of the existence of her blog.  Again, I was just trying to be up front about what I was doing and why I was doing it.

Leaving aside the odd substantive comment I might personally make, I&#039;ve decided that my hat is to keep the various disparate and sometimes overlapping groups (Independent Scientologists, Freezoners, Ex-Scientologists, Critics, OGs, Anons, etc.) informed about data of mutual interest, and to enhance the communication between them.  (Hence my monicker.)  I cross-post from and between Mike&#039;s blog, Marty&#039;s blog, ESMB, WWP, iScientology Blog, and others IF I think the material will be of interest to the recipient blog and not offensive or against its charter.  Sometimes I make mistakes, but I do try to apply the Second Rule to Happiness.

I am not unaware of the sensitivities of the various groups.  At times, when I&#039;ve cross-posted Independent Scientology material from Marty&#039;s, Mike&#039;s or the iScientology blog to ESMB or, more particularly, WWP, I&#039;ve been accused of being an Independent Scientologist, Scientologist, or an &quot;apologist&quot; for same.  (I&#039;ve  been questioned on ESMB and WWP regarding what my &quot;agenda&quot; is.)  At times, when I&#039;ve posted material I first discovered on ESMB, WWP, or Tony&#039;s blog here and/or on Marty&#039;s blog, I&#039;ve been accused of being &quot;smarmy,&quot; spreading entheta or, well, being pretty much a shit disturber.  :)  In other words, I must be doing something right because I am providing people with data they might not otherwise confront.  :)

FWIW, I&#039;ve read Anette&#039;s initial blog posts and I believe that what she has to say will be of great interest to people here, and indeed will align with what Mike is doing.  As I have to date said more frequently on WWP when I anticipate I&#039;m going to get &quot;yelled&quot; at, YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary). :)

-- CommunicatorIC

ps.  I change the website attached to my name to whichever one I am cross-posting from or linking to.  I don&#039;t have my own website.  I simply disseminate information between the various groups.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-dox-read-tony-ortegas-blog-today/#comment-3220">Ronnie Bell</a>.</p>
<p>Ronnie,</p>
<p>I certainly didn&#8217;t intend any offense, not did I intend to post Anette&#8217;s blog as an &#8220;advertisement.&#8221;  As I said in my comment, I posted it simply because I thought Anette&#8217;s blog might be of interest to people here.</p>
<p>As for noting that I did not (and do not) know about Anette&#8217;s religious leanings, I was just trying to be honest, transparent and provide notice that people here might not like EVERYTHING they might see there.  (I don&#8217;t know either way; Anette&#8217;s blog is new.)  I try not to cross-post material that is purely critical of the religion or the applied religious philosophy of Scientology (as opposed to the corporate Church of Scientology) here because that would be inappropriate and offensive.  Because Anette said she would also address what was &#8220;good about Scientology,” I thought it was appropriate and maybe beneficial to inform Mike&#8217;s audience of the existence of her blog.  Again, I was just trying to be up front about what I was doing and why I was doing it.</p>
<p>Leaving aside the odd substantive comment I might personally make, I&#8217;ve decided that my hat is to keep the various disparate and sometimes overlapping groups (Independent Scientologists, Freezoners, Ex-Scientologists, Critics, OGs, Anons, etc.) informed about data of mutual interest, and to enhance the communication between them.  (Hence my monicker.)  I cross-post from and between Mike&#8217;s blog, Marty&#8217;s blog, ESMB, WWP, iScientology Blog, and others IF I think the material will be of interest to the recipient blog and not offensive or against its charter.  Sometimes I make mistakes, but I do try to apply the Second Rule to Happiness.</p>
<p>I am not unaware of the sensitivities of the various groups.  At times, when I&#8217;ve cross-posted Independent Scientology material from Marty&#8217;s, Mike&#8217;s or the iScientology blog to ESMB or, more particularly, WWP, I&#8217;ve been accused of being an Independent Scientologist, Scientologist, or an &#8220;apologist&#8221; for same.  (I&#8217;ve  been questioned on ESMB and WWP regarding what my &#8220;agenda&#8221; is.)  At times, when I&#8217;ve posted material I first discovered on ESMB, WWP, or Tony&#8217;s blog here and/or on Marty&#8217;s blog, I&#8217;ve been accused of being &#8220;smarmy,&#8221; spreading entheta or, well, being pretty much a shit disturber.  🙂  In other words, I must be doing something right because I am providing people with data they might not otherwise confront.  🙂</p>
<p>FWIW, I&#8217;ve read Anette&#8217;s initial blog posts and I believe that what she has to say will be of great interest to people here, and indeed will align with what Mike is doing.  As I have to date said more frequently on WWP when I anticipate I&#8217;m going to get &#8220;yelled&#8221; at, YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary). 🙂</p>
<p>&#8212; CommunicatorIC</p>
<p>ps.  I change the website attached to my name to whichever one I am cross-posting from or linking to.  I don&#8217;t have my own website.  I simply disseminate information between the various groups.</p>
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		By: Anette Iren		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-dox-read-tony-ortegas-blog-today/#comment-3231</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anette Iren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 20:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-dox-read-tony-ortegas-blog-today/#comment-3229&quot;&gt;Anette Iren&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, Mike!
It felt great to officially declare my INDEPENDENCE from the Church of Scientology on the Dianetics Day 9th May 2013. AD 63 that is. It was a happy celebration. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-dox-read-tony-ortegas-blog-today/#comment-3229">Anette Iren</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, Mike!<br />
It felt great to officially declare my INDEPENDENCE from the Church of Scientology on the Dianetics Day 9th May 2013. AD 63 that is. It was a happy celebration. 🙂</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 19:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-dox-read-tony-ortegas-blog-today/#comment-3229&quot;&gt;Anette Iren&lt;/a&gt;.

Anette -- thanks for clarifying. I wondered. My policy is that I let anyone post anything as long as I don&#039;t think it will be offensive to the intended public of this blog. Linking to your site was fine with me as from the things I have read from you, you are intelligent and thoughtful in your communications.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-dox-read-tony-ortegas-blog-today/#comment-3229">Anette Iren</a>.</p>
<p>Anette &#8212; thanks for clarifying. I wondered. My policy is that I let anyone post anything as long as I don&#8217;t think it will be offensive to the intended public of this blog. Linking to your site was fine with me as from the things I have read from you, you are intelligent and thoughtful in your communications.</p>
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		By: Anette Iren		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anette Iren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 17:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-dox-read-tony-ortegas-blog-today/#comment-3204&quot;&gt;CommunicatorIC&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi CommunicatorIC
I see that your &quot;Comment Name&quot; links to my blog. Fine with me.
Just to let you know, this is me. I&#039;m not CommunicatorIC.
I trust Mike to decide what he wants to approve or not on his blog.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-dox-read-tony-ortegas-blog-today/#comment-3204">CommunicatorIC</a>.</p>
<p>Hi CommunicatorIC<br />
I see that your &#8220;Comment Name&#8221; links to my blog. Fine with me.<br />
Just to let you know, this is me. I&#8217;m not CommunicatorIC.<br />
I trust Mike to decide what he wants to approve or not on his blog.</p>
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		By: Anette Iren		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-dox-read-tony-ortegas-blog-today/#comment-3228</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anette Iren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 17:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-dox-read-tony-ortegas-blog-today/#comment-3209&quot;&gt;Michael Hobson&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t remember that I have said that Mr. Hobson.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-dox-read-tony-ortegas-blog-today/#comment-3209">Michael Hobson</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember that I have said that Mr. Hobson.</p>
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		By: The Oracle		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 15:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lovely, legal flaps and out P.R. from here to the mood and back from the A.T.S.&#039;s  (Actual trouble sources).
David&#039;s stats are up this week!  You go Dave!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely, legal flaps and out P.R. from here to the mood and back from the A.T.S.&#8217;s  (Actual trouble sources).<br />
David&#8217;s stats are up this week!  You go Dave!</p>
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