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		By: Hana Whitfield		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-wheres-shelly/#comment-532287</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2023 03:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Claire Headley recently interviewed by me on tape about Shelly and her mother, Flo Barnett in which I talked about the following in more detail.  Flo contacted me in Los Angeles in the 80s begging for help. She was panicking, crying, and  said she was afraid she was going mad. Scientology had kicked her out and refused to help her. So had David Mayo’s AAC in  Santa Barbara; Flo didn’t have $ for auditing at the time. She called me. I told her, yes, we’d help, no charge, your sessions can start today. But the turmoil around her was tearing her apart; she either could not use her car, or could not get a ride. Flo even agreed to come and stay with Jerry and me; we had a vacant apartment next to ours that we regularly “sheltered” former Scientologists in to ensure they would rest, sleep, and eat healthy food for a week, and do it away from issues that were dogging them before starting any remedial auditing. Flo agreed  wholeheartedly. But she was unable to maintain focus on anything … over 2 to 3 days of trying to get with her, I lost touch with her. A few days later, I heard the tragic news. Bringing this up again has been deeply disturbing. My heart goes out to all those who suffered at the hands of Scientology, and those who lost  their lives in their attempts to break free.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Claire Headley recently interviewed by me on tape about Shelly and her mother, Flo Barnett in which I talked about the following in more detail.  Flo contacted me in Los Angeles in the 80s begging for help. She was panicking, crying, and  said she was afraid she was going mad. Scientology had kicked her out and refused to help her. So had David Mayo’s AAC in  Santa Barbara; Flo didn’t have $ for auditing at the time. She called me. I told her, yes, we’d help, no charge, your sessions can start today. But the turmoil around her was tearing her apart; she either could not use her car, or could not get a ride. Flo even agreed to come and stay with Jerry and me; we had a vacant apartment next to ours that we regularly “sheltered” former Scientologists in to ensure they would rest, sleep, and eat healthy food for a week, and do it away from issues that were dogging them before starting any remedial auditing. Flo agreed  wholeheartedly. But she was unable to maintain focus on anything … over 2 to 3 days of trying to get with her, I lost touch with her. A few days later, I heard the tragic news. Bringing this up again has been deeply disturbing. My heart goes out to all those who suffered at the hands of Scientology, and those who lost  their lives in their attempts to break free.</p>
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		By: Accordion-Girlfriend		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-wheres-shelly/#comment-531480</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jul 2023 01:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have been doing research on Shelly; her disappearance is not the only strange thing that has happened in her life: Her mother death and the events leading up to her death. It is very strange and police not fully investigating an obvious homicide.   What did her mother know?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been doing research on Shelly; her disappearance is not the only strange thing that has happened in her life: Her mother death and the events leading up to her death. It is very strange and police not fully investigating an obvious homicide.   What did her mother know?</p>
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		By: otherles		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-wheres-shelly/#comment-531249</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 19:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-wheres-shelly/#comment-531182&quot;&gt;Ellanorah Wilson&lt;/a&gt;.

Shelly&#039;s not showing anyone the money.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-wheres-shelly/#comment-531182">Ellanorah Wilson</a>.</p>
<p>Shelly&#8217;s not showing anyone the money.</p>
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		By: Chris		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 12:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kia ora Mike
There is an interesting German Doco on Scientology member&#039;s deaths that have been poorly investigated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9ZV-LAoYDA - Police collusion/corruption is rampant  :(
Nga mihi
Chris]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kia ora Mike<br />
There is an interesting German Doco on Scientology member&#8217;s deaths that have been poorly investigated <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9ZV-LAoYDA" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9ZV-LAoYDA</a> &#8211; Police collusion/corruption is rampant  🙁<br />
Nga mihi<br />
Chris</p>
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		By: Ellanorah Wilson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 04:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Shelly does not donate large sums of money to LAPD or LA Couny SD.  She does not hire officers for well paid hours as private security.  Why would they &quot;protect her interests?&quot;  She is just a woman - who has probably been labeled as &quot;crazy&quot; to them.  So she does not count or matter in the big finacial picture.  I am sure the powers that be look at the &quot;stats&quot; and go with the scio-bot flow.  Shame on them...wish this article had been page one in the LA Times...or any publication that would get civilian attention.  Where is 20/20 or other news programs?  Again never mind - no one cares except us ex-bots.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shelly does not donate large sums of money to LAPD or LA Couny SD.  She does not hire officers for well paid hours as private security.  Why would they &#8220;protect her interests?&#8221;  She is just a woman &#8211; who has probably been labeled as &#8220;crazy&#8221; to them.  So she does not count or matter in the big finacial picture.  I am sure the powers that be look at the &#8220;stats&#8221; and go with the scio-bot flow.  Shame on them&#8230;wish this article had been page one in the LA Times&#8230;or any publication that would get civilian attention.  Where is 20/20 or other news programs?  Again never mind &#8211; no one cares except us ex-bots.</p>
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		By: Karl Woodrow		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 02:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-wheres-shelly/#comment-531166&quot;&gt;Todd Cray&lt;/a&gt;.

I totally agree that the subject of a missing-person police interview should be separated from other parties and the interview video recorded. 
And I would be surprised if that is not standard police procedure for MP interviews]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-wheres-shelly/#comment-531166">Todd Cray</a>.</p>
<p>I totally agree that the subject of a missing-person police interview should be separated from other parties and the interview video recorded.<br />
And I would be surprised if that is not standard police procedure for MP interviews</p>
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		By: otherles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 01:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re supposed to trust the police.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re supposed to trust the police.</p>
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		By: Todd Cray		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2023 16:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-wheres-shelly/#comment-531145&quot;&gt;Karl Woodrow&lt;/a&gt;.

We are always present for each other’s exams too. But they also separate us for a moment to inquire about safety at home. And that part is mandatory and has nothing to do with medical history. 

As I clearly mentioned, I “assumed” that this ritual is due to CA law. But no, I didn’t scour the law books. It’s possible that the clinic created this requires on their own. So, not quite sure where I am offering info that falls short of being “true” or where you’re providing corrections that are keeping it “real.”

In any event, I am contrasting this level of concern for people in mere routine matters with that of the police in response to a specific complaint.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-wheres-shelly/#comment-531145">Karl Woodrow</a>.</p>
<p>We are always present for each other’s exams too. But they also separate us for a moment to inquire about safety at home. And that part is mandatory and has nothing to do with medical history. </p>
<p>As I clearly mentioned, I “assumed” that this ritual is due to CA law. But no, I didn’t scour the law books. It’s possible that the clinic created this requires on their own. So, not quite sure where I am offering info that falls short of being “true” or where you’re providing corrections that are keeping it “real.”</p>
<p>In any event, I am contrasting this level of concern for people in mere routine matters with that of the police in response to a specific complaint.</p>
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		By: GatChild		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2023 16:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-wheres-shelly/#comment-531128&quot;&gt;Todd Cray&lt;/a&gt;.

In my experience, there are no routine medical exams in the Sea Organization from outside professionals unless a serious and known medical condition exists. Even then, it is highly avoided, many times by the staff member themselves. I acted as a &quot;Medical Liason Officer&quot; for a Sea Org base.

Most ailments or &quot;case on post&quot; is dealt with via HCOB &quot;Vitamins&quot; or HCOB &quot;Assists&quot;. 

Alan Hubbert, who had been having chronic migraines for YEARS, never saw a doctor until he fell over dead in the FLO mess hall from his brain tumor. IIRC at the time his wife of years was yelling at him right before he fell over about being &quot;case-y&quot;.

David Rosseau was having major physical issues for nearly seven months, but still getting OT5 auditing and assists from his auditor, Mandy K, until his testicular cancer caused bleeding from lower orifices in such a copious amount that he was sent to the hospital, where he died a couple of weeks later from inoperable Stage 4 cancer that had spread to his pancreas, intestines and other internal organs. 

Those are two examples of at least 10-15, we can start rattling off names like Enid, Eunice, etc. who suffered similarly.

If she&#039;s seen a doctor, it&#039;s likely he was a Scn contact, if she was even sent at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-wheres-shelly/#comment-531128">Todd Cray</a>.</p>
<p>In my experience, there are no routine medical exams in the Sea Organization from outside professionals unless a serious and known medical condition exists. Even then, it is highly avoided, many times by the staff member themselves. I acted as a &#8220;Medical Liason Officer&#8221; for a Sea Org base.</p>
<p>Most ailments or &#8220;case on post&#8221; is dealt with via HCOB &#8220;Vitamins&#8221; or HCOB &#8220;Assists&#8221;. </p>
<p>Alan Hubbert, who had been having chronic migraines for YEARS, never saw a doctor until he fell over dead in the FLO mess hall from his brain tumor. IIRC at the time his wife of years was yelling at him right before he fell over about being &#8220;case-y&#8221;.</p>
<p>David Rosseau was having major physical issues for nearly seven months, but still getting OT5 auditing and assists from his auditor, Mandy K, until his testicular cancer caused bleeding from lower orifices in such a copious amount that he was sent to the hospital, where he died a couple of weeks later from inoperable Stage 4 cancer that had spread to his pancreas, intestines and other internal organs. </p>
<p>Those are two examples of at least 10-15, we can start rattling off names like Enid, Eunice, etc. who suffered similarly.</p>
<p>If she&#8217;s seen a doctor, it&#8217;s likely he was a Scn contact, if she was even sent at all.</p>
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		By: Karl Woodrow		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2023 03:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-wheres-shelly/#comment-531128&quot;&gt;Todd Cray&lt;/a&gt;.

Not exactly true about california medical appointment laws.  
I am always present during my wife&#039;s exams and she for mine. 
Just keeping it real. 
Maybe you are thinking about exams for rape rather than all medical exams?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/important-wheres-shelly/#comment-531128">Todd Cray</a>.</p>
<p>Not exactly true about california medical appointment laws.<br />
I am always present during my wife&#8217;s exams and she for mine.<br />
Just keeping it real.<br />
Maybe you are thinking about exams for rape rather than all medical exams?</p>
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