Dawn, El Con DID and HAD to write that lest people call him, quite correctly, criminally insane for kidnapping his own baby daughter and threatening to drown her unless her mother (his wife) do exactly what he told her to do.

El Con apologists who know these facts (99% who are out of the church) are of the same criminal mind set as he.

Jennifer Kamuda cain, who are you asking for an answer?

Lol!

“I simply realized one day that I was done…and left. No one noticed. :)”

It’s how I did it! I’ve also not yet been declared. No one knows where I am, how to contact me. I did that bit so thoroughly that to all extent and purposes I’ve vanished! Lol!

“…familiy bonding is just the psychotic GE.” Can’t remember where now but he said that thetans didn’t need marriage/sex/children, only the GE.

Statpush, your description of the system is one of the best I’ve ever read! He was cunning, no doubt about that.

Right Skorp. Like Stalin was the Peasant Landowner Social Reformer. He reformed 15 million of them into graves.

On http://www.Findagrave.com they (interestingly) list Ron’s profession as “Social Reformer”. I guess they are correct in a way. He did reform a lot of society. They never said “for the better”. LOL

You’ve reminded me. Aquamarine, of the fact that I too wrote KRs on many questionable goings on. I became a target and was told I should be investigated for targeting sea org members. I was told that anyone who did this must a crimes. I was put on an “little” ethics programme, which got longer and longer. I refused to do it, however. I had done nothing wrong.

But it’s not the people/staff who can’t look. They looked, okay, at me! They followed policy on this written by Hubbard. It was his teaching. They didn’t look any further than what he wrote.

He didn’t care about people, not even HIS people. He was cruel, callous and manipulating in the extreme. He used people. He got rid of good people, sometimes going out of his way to ruin them. He toyed with people like a cat toys with a mouse, playing with it while it still moves but losing interest once it’s dead and no longer there for its amusement.

I think some of us like to adorn him with some measure of decency. We can then be less hard on ourselves – IMO. It’s hard for some of us to contemplate just how naive we were, susceptible to magic and charisma. We didn’t inspect ANYthing, bowed and scraped. There’s probably a hollow space in each of us, begging to be filled. He did that. We allowed it because we felt purposeful, all of the sudden. We had something to do, something to look forward to instead of constantly wondering what it was all about. He played on this skillfully – IMO.

The sooner we face the error of our ways and confront the truth, from the very first time he said that the way to make money was to start a religion, the sooner we can get over him and the ordeal of being mesmorised – IMHO. This is far healthier, I believe, that trying to salvage something out of it all with falsities.