I began Scientology at a Mission in Canada, around 1974… had many ‘wins’ from the HAS and HQS courses, then joined staff. After a year in Div. 6 (public division), moved to Continental Org and to join the Guardian’s Office – PR Bureau. After 2 years of that, I spent a year in B6, the ‘Intelligence’ Bureau. When the GO was shut down I routed onto staff at a Class 4 Org, again in Public Division. In all, I was in Scientology for over 3 decades – made it through OT3, and am a Grade I auditor. Like many others, most of my significant gains occurred on the basic materials – not on the upper level stuff. However, the gains were not enough to compensate for the many compromises one has to make, vis-à-vis your own integrity, to remain a Scientologist in good standing. It was incredible… the amount of lies and despicable behavior in a group holding itself up to be the most ethical beings on the planet. What a farce. Lying and infiltrating other organizations for the purpose of manipulating and destroying them. My God, what we did and what they still do… all under the justification of ‘greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics’.
You are well out of it Larry, follow your own heart and you won’t go wrong!

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Thank you Zola. That was a beautiful answer. And one I trust/imagine is a close to the truth as one could ever be. It’s been many many years since I did any Scientology so my recollection of terminology is hazy, but I will say, just reading what you wrote allowed me to ‘blow mountains of charge’ off the subject. lol.

Thank you again and may 2014 be the best year of your life.

Larry

Chee, I agree with your comments wholeheartedly. The sheer honesty and purity of Zola’s brief but thorough answer felt like a burst of sunshine to me.

Regarding Kurt Feshbach’ comment……wow, Mike be sure to pass that nugget along to the attorneys handling the Narconon litigation. Perhaps it’s time for Mr Feshbach to be deposed. And, while they are asking Kurt about Narcanon, they can throw in those questions about Jessica that Tommy, or should I say Thomas, refused to answer.

Zola, are you, or were you ever a Scientologist? If you are/were, yours is the most honest answer and assessment of LRH I have ever seen from a Scientologist.

Cheers for an honest and thorough answer!

#1: How can it be explained that Miscavige (the SP of all SPs) was able to fool Ron into allowing Miscavige to take over and utterly corrupt (and possibly ultimately destroy) what Ron had built throughout his lifetime?

That just seems so unbelievable. We have not done the ‘how to shatter suppression’ course/run down but if Ron wrote it, well, it just seems unimaginable that David Miscavige somehow or other conned Ron out of his church (and his lifelong work) without Ron being aware of what was happening.

#2. How can it be explained that after some 30 years, given all of the OT’s on the planet, that Miscavige has not been literally kicked out of the church of Scientology? 30 years! we do not now how many OT VII’s and OT VIII’s there are, or have been, over the last 30 years, but, really? Perhaps hundreds and hundreds of OT’s and yet neither individually nor collectively they could unseat one very very very small suppressive man that has spent 30 years absolutely destroying everything Scientology stands for and is about?

Unimaginable.

That’s it. Those are the two glaring questions that neither myself nor my friends can answer or understand.

I/we have asked this questions on other Scientology related forums and have never received an intelligent answer. What we generally hear is something like: well, it’s not important. Which to us is pure nonsense. It is important data to have to understand. If for no other reason (though there are) as the old adage goes, those that cannot remember history are doomed to repeat it.

Hopefully someone here can shed some light on this troubling aspect of LRH and the churches history.

Thanks,
Larry

Wow. Thank you so much for posting that. Kurt does not drink kool aide, he guzzles it. That he would say something like that is an glimpse into the kool aide universe. I have been thinking for a while that the kool aide drinkers are actually aware of everything that the indy and anti movements are talking about, but they have just accepted it – a kind of indictment of their own personal integrity. Really, thank you so much. Getting little glimpses inside the bubble really helps. For people who have lost a lot, there is always a desperation to understand who are these people? The “disconnecters”, the “enablers”. Kurt’s statement above explains something about him and others like him. They know, they just don’t care.