I haven’t been by the Santa Barbara location lately, but a couple of months ago I made an afternoon trip after somebody said it was perma-closed, which I was skeptical about. I went Saturday afternoon. They were open and a couple of people were handing out pamphlets (I didn’t take any).

I think it’s just a storefront and not really an org, and I doubt they’re open all the hours they claim to be, but it’s certainly worlds better than the Ventura location (which *is* an org IIRC) as far as foot traffic goes. Ventura is in a light industrial area while SB is in a shopping district.

If there’s any body routing going on it must be in SB. If they let that close, they’re basically admitting they’ll never see any new members from the central coast of CA.

I hear crickets…

Maureen, point out something that had occupied my thoughts for some time. While I was enjoying the good old day of the late 60s and early 70s, running directly parallel to that time was what we’ve all discussed and revealed over the years. It’s still staggering to me, in much the same way as a Berlin businesssman, enjoying his life as the death camps ran their course. Talk about betrayal. And talk about blind ignorance and rationalization.

Whew, it’s it’s a lot to deal with sometimes. If the FBI admits the GO was one of the top intelligence organs in the world, it’s no shame not to have been “on top” of what was really going on. Hubbard and his ever-changing crew were no dummies. I knew/know many of the top GO people at the time and I can attest they were very intelligent, in the same way as the Stasi were.

I continue to watch the vital signs of this malignant group with the help of Mike and Tony.

Alonzo, your summation was particularly succinct. It helps to put the subject into the crypt where it belongs. Thanks to the internet and many courageous people the public have been well informed now. Like anyone with a terminal disease, all we can do is work toward removing whatever life support is keeping the organs functioning. The mind and consciousness have long since left.

So glad you continue to write. I’ve been following you with pleasure since your days commenting on Gere’s site.

thegman77, Samuel Clemens answered your Q 150 years ago. ‘It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.’

Bogus.

But, but, jenni! Why would bring up Ron in your post??? The clown dwarf is now SOURCE! Only he knows what’s best. And if the orgs are empty, it’s all because of the SPs surrounding him. It’s all because the staff can’t tell members to hand over their kids college fund! Ron? Really?

Heh, heh, heh…I feel you, brother! First Ideal “Cont.” I’ve known a few…

Thanks for the laugh!