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	Comments on: It&#8217;s March 13th &#8211; Where&#8217;s Ron?	</title>
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		By: nomnom		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2024 05:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-march-13th-wheres-ron/#comment-575762&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

No, that&#039;s just my own opinion.

Sarge did write that Ron said, as he and Denk and Mithoff went to the back of the Bluebird, &quot;Let&#039;s get this over with&quot; which makes me think it was planned.

Again, I don&#039;t know and it&#039;s just my gut feeling.  If I get a chance, I&#039;ll send you the email.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-march-13th-wheres-ron/#comment-575762">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>No, that&#8217;s just my own opinion.</p>
<p>Sarge did write that Ron said, as he and Denk and Mithoff went to the back of the Bluebird, &#8220;Let&#8217;s get this over with&#8221; which makes me think it was planned.</p>
<p>Again, I don&#8217;t know and it&#8217;s just my gut feeling.  If I get a chance, I&#8217;ll send you the email.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Apr 2024 00:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-march-13th-wheres-ron/#comment-571673&quot;&gt;Geoff&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m sure that it&#039;s *well* established that LRH is no longer with us and that his ashes -- or some facsimile thereof -- were dumped into the Pacific, except for the bits that blew back into the plane IIRC.  There&#039;s nothing to check the wellness of.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-march-13th-wheres-ron/#comment-571673">Geoff</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that it&#8217;s *well* established that LRH is no longer with us and that his ashes &#8212; or some facsimile thereof &#8212; were dumped into the Pacific, except for the bits that blew back into the plane IIRC.  There&#8217;s nothing to check the wellness of.</p>
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		By: OMG		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OMG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2024 16:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-march-13th-wheres-ron/#comment-571699&quot;&gt;Zev&lt;/a&gt;.

Zev, In those later days at least, Hubbard issued &quot;policy&quot; in two forms only.  Verbally recorded or less frequently in his own hand.  I used to see/hear what was issued to Gold back then and did work in AVC INT at RTC uplines. He didn&#039;t type it.

Therefore, if Hubbard HAD produced that &quot;memo&quot;, Pat and Annie would have had the recording or hand written version to show or play.  They didn&#039;t.  Ergo, didn&#039;t happen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-march-13th-wheres-ron/#comment-571699">Zev</a>.</p>
<p>Zev, In those later days at least, Hubbard issued &#8220;policy&#8221; in two forms only.  Verbally recorded or less frequently in his own hand.  I used to see/hear what was issued to Gold back then and did work in AVC INT at RTC uplines. He didn&#8217;t type it.</p>
<p>Therefore, if Hubbard HAD produced that &#8220;memo&#8221;, Pat and Annie would have had the recording or hand written version to show or play.  They didn&#8217;t.  Ergo, didn&#8217;t happen.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2024 13:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-march-13th-wheres-ron/#comment-575708&quot;&gt;nomnom&lt;/a&gt;.

Are you saying Sarge told you it was an &quot;assisted suicide&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-march-13th-wheres-ron/#comment-575708">nomnom</a>.</p>
<p>Are you saying Sarge told you it was an &#8220;assisted suicide&#8221;?</p>
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		By: nomnom		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nomnom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2024 18:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-march-13th-wheres-ron/#comment-571901&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s what Sarge wrote to me. We had several email exchanges.  I guess we&#039;ll never know what exactly happened that night.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-march-13th-wheres-ron/#comment-571901">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what Sarge wrote to me. We had several email exchanges.  I guess we&#8217;ll never know what exactly happened that night.</p>
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		By: GL		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2024 20:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-march-13th-wheres-ron/#comment-571777&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

I gather LRH stands for Large Rotund (and) Horrible?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-march-13th-wheres-ron/#comment-571777">Cindy</a>.</p>
<p>I gather LRH stands for Large Rotund (and) Horrible?</p>
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		By: Zev		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2024 01:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-march-13th-wheres-ron/#comment-572138&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Right, I understand that. My question was, what did you think in &#039;86 as a still-in. Were you like &quot;uh-huh, this guys has clearly faked  everything and took it over from the rightful successor, but I&#039;m going to keep going and I&#039;m sure things will right themselves&quot;, or did you believe his promotions were real at the time and only started wondering if they were false after seeing his sociopathy and abuse?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-march-13th-wheres-ron/#comment-572138">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Right, I understand that. My question was, what did you think in &#8217;86 as a still-in. Were you like &#8220;uh-huh, this guys has clearly faked  everything and took it over from the rightful successor, but I&#8217;m going to keep going and I&#8217;m sure things will right themselves&#8221;, or did you believe his promotions were real at the time and only started wondering if they were false after seeing his sociopathy and abuse?</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2024 01:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-march-13th-wheres-ron/#comment-572123&quot;&gt;Zev&lt;/a&gt;.

No, I do not believe Hubbard selected Miscavige or promoted him to Captain. Miscavige seized the position and went on a concerted campaign to eradicate any threats to his power. I cover this at length in my book.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-march-13th-wheres-ron/#comment-572123">Zev</a>.</p>
<p>No, I do not believe Hubbard selected Miscavige or promoted him to Captain. Miscavige seized the position and went on a concerted campaign to eradicate any threats to his power. I cover this at length in my book.</p>
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		By: Zev		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2024 21:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-march-13th-wheres-ron/#comment-571718&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

My apologies, maybe I misunderstood you or misstated what I meant. My impression was DM claimed Hubbard had promoted him to Captain, but that there&#039;s no actual document stating such.  That&#039;s what I meant by a &quot;secret succession orders&quot;. Is that correct, or am I under a misunderstanding in regards to how DM claimed he earned his leadership position?

I wasn&#039;t even alive in &#039;86, much less in at the time. But you were, so I&#039;m just asking with humility here.

In &#039;86, did you believe DM had been hand picked by Hubbard as the successor? If yes, then what did you think was the reason there wasn&#039;t a written record as such? Or did you think he wasn&#039;t hand-picked, but derived legitimate authority from some other policy?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-march-13th-wheres-ron/#comment-571718">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>My apologies, maybe I misunderstood you or misstated what I meant. My impression was DM claimed Hubbard had promoted him to Captain, but that there&#8217;s no actual document stating such.  That&#8217;s what I meant by a &#8220;secret succession orders&#8221;. Is that correct, or am I under a misunderstanding in regards to how DM claimed he earned his leadership position?</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t even alive in &#8217;86, much less in at the time. But you were, so I&#8217;m just asking with humility here.</p>
<p>In &#8217;86, did you believe DM had been hand picked by Hubbard as the successor? If yes, then what did you think was the reason there wasn&#8217;t a written record as such? Or did you think he wasn&#8217;t hand-picked, but derived legitimate authority from some other policy?</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2024 17:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-march-13th-wheres-ron/#comment-571911&quot;&gt;LoosingMyReligion&lt;/a&gt;.

Be glad you are among such good company.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-march-13th-wheres-ron/#comment-571911">LoosingMyReligion</a>.</p>
<p>Be glad you are among such good company.</p>
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