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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2024 13:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-official-chicago-org-ribbon-yanking-3-march/#comment-580433&quot;&gt;Ray&lt;/a&gt;.

I doubt they ever had 138 staff. They may have had 138 staff there on the day Miscavige yanked his ribbon, but typically they import staff from other orgs and even the Sea Org to make the numbers look good. Many are gone in a few days, back to where they came from. In the first month a bunch are lost when they actually get their weekly paycheck and it is nothing like what they were promised. By now it is has probably settled down to reality. If there is anyone in Chicago who would like to swing by and take a peek it would be wonderful to hear...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-official-chicago-org-ribbon-yanking-3-march/#comment-580433">Ray</a>.</p>
<p>I doubt they ever had 138 staff. They may have had 138 staff there on the day Miscavige yanked his ribbon, but typically they import staff from other orgs and even the Sea Org to make the numbers look good. Many are gone in a few days, back to where they came from. In the first month a bunch are lost when they actually get their weekly paycheck and it is nothing like what they were promised. By now it is has probably settled down to reality. If there is anyone in Chicago who would like to swing by and take a peek it would be wonderful to hear&#8230;</p>
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		By: Ray		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2024 05:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-official-chicago-org-ribbon-yanking-3-march/#comment-567108&quot;&gt;AnEx&lt;/a&gt;.

Is there a progress report on the Chicago org since its two months now that the new &quot;Ideal Org&quot; has been opened?

Frankly I can&#039;t figure out where Chicago could have gotten 138 staff...I heard about a recruiting event a couple of summers ago where the original ED spoke, trying to get people to join staff.

Most of the attendees were individuals even older than the former ED and not involved w/ the church for years. I heard it didn&#039;t look that hopeful...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-official-chicago-org-ribbon-yanking-3-march/#comment-567108">AnEx</a>.</p>
<p>Is there a progress report on the Chicago org since its two months now that the new &#8220;Ideal Org&#8221; has been opened?</p>
<p>Frankly I can&#8217;t figure out where Chicago could have gotten 138 staff&#8230;I heard about a recruiting event a couple of summers ago where the original ED spoke, trying to get people to join staff.</p>
<p>Most of the attendees were individuals even older than the former ED and not involved w/ the church for years. I heard it didn&#8217;t look that hopeful&#8230;</p>
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		By: LoosingMyReligion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LoosingMyReligion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2024 21:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-official-chicago-org-ribbon-yanking-3-march/#comment-567180&quot;&gt;Patty Moher&lt;/a&gt;.

Patty, this Is typical of scn management. This reminds me of the Lausanne Org in Switzerland. Olivier Dufour and his wife Annie founded the Mission, then turned it into an Org and made it grow over time. Olivier was the ED while Annie was the D/ED. Olivier had charisma and excellent PR and savoir-faire. Annie had excellent organizational skills. They were well-liked and personal friends, beyond scn. They were old-school pioneers and capable. One day they sent two staff members to the FEBC for the positions of PES and HES, with the aim of expanding the Org. When these staff returned after years and a lot of expenses, they presented themselves as the new ED and D/DED. Olivier and Annie were removed but appointed as honorary ED and D/ED (or something similar). In practice, they eventually left the staff without even trying to fight, but you know how these things go, they had to stay quiet or face trouble. The new team didn&#039;t accomplish anything worthy, in fact, Lausanne got worse. Olivier and Annie then went to Paris. Olivier died several years later while trying to close or unlock OT 7, while the last time I heard from Annie years ago, she was a public at CC Paris and I remember her like been sad inside. When I compare scn to a swarm of locusts, I don&#039;t say it lightly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-official-chicago-org-ribbon-yanking-3-march/#comment-567180">Patty Moher</a>.</p>
<p>Patty, this Is typical of scn management. This reminds me of the Lausanne Org in Switzerland. Olivier Dufour and his wife Annie founded the Mission, then turned it into an Org and made it grow over time. Olivier was the ED while Annie was the D/ED. Olivier had charisma and excellent PR and savoir-faire. Annie had excellent organizational skills. They were well-liked and personal friends, beyond scn. They were old-school pioneers and capable. One day they sent two staff members to the FEBC for the positions of PES and HES, with the aim of expanding the Org. When these staff returned after years and a lot of expenses, they presented themselves as the new ED and D/DED. Olivier and Annie were removed but appointed as honorary ED and D/ED (or something similar). In practice, they eventually left the staff without even trying to fight, but you know how these things go, they had to stay quiet or face trouble. The new team didn&#8217;t accomplish anything worthy, in fact, Lausanne got worse. Olivier and Annie then went to Paris. Olivier died several years later while trying to close or unlock OT 7, while the last time I heard from Annie years ago, she was a public at CC Paris and I remember her like been sad inside. When I compare scn to a swarm of locusts, I don&#8217;t say it lightly.</p>
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		By: JohnB318		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2024 23:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Being from Chicago, I popped into the blog to check out what Scientology&#039;s status is in Chicago. 
I knew they were building a new campus somewhere. What a hoot to learn it&#039;s still not open.
This is the 3rd largest metro in the nation. There&#039;s almost 10mil. people in greater Chicago area, and this org barely functions. 
The Midwest really seems impervious to this cult nonsense huh? What&#039;s our secret sauce? Sweet Baby Ray&#039;s?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being from Chicago, I popped into the blog to check out what Scientology&#8217;s status is in Chicago.<br />
I knew they were building a new campus somewhere. What a hoot to learn it&#8217;s still not open.<br />
This is the 3rd largest metro in the nation. There&#8217;s almost 10mil. people in greater Chicago area, and this org barely functions.<br />
The Midwest really seems impervious to this cult nonsense huh? What&#8217;s our secret sauce? Sweet Baby Ray&#8217;s?</p>
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		By: Che Esquavava		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Che Esquavava]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2024 19:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-official-chicago-org-ribbon-yanking-3-march/#comment-567097&quot;&gt;PickAnotherID&lt;/a&gt;.

Hello Patty

I&#039;ve read a lot about sci&#039;ology, but what is FEBC training?

What is the Birthday Game, why is it quarterly, and how does glowing it right win the game? What is &#039;it&#039;?

I&#039;ve been reading this blog for some weeks, usually understand what people are saying, but am stumped by this one. Must be new things.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-official-chicago-org-ribbon-yanking-3-march/#comment-567097">PickAnotherID</a>.</p>
<p>Hello Patty</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read a lot about sci&#8217;ology, but what is FEBC training?</p>
<p>What is the Birthday Game, why is it quarterly, and how does glowing it right win the game? What is &#8216;it&#8217;?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been reading this blog for some weeks, usually understand what people are saying, but am stumped by this one. Must be new things.</p>
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		By: Che Esquava		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Che Esquava]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2024 19:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m new, never in, creepy EST/Forum friends for a while, used to enjoy irritating dianscolientolngists. 

I&#039;m sure that the question is for Mr. Rinder, but I can make a start. Mike (with help would likely be able to make lists for the first two classes I indicate). Also, to Mr. Rinder, thank you for running this site on recent and currents in the world of Synthiotics.
Alleged Churches, &#039;Tech.&#039; holding bodies, publishing, security, legal, administrative: at least twenty. 

Front groups in prison counselling, drug rehabilitation, anti-psych., anti-medication, &#039;human rights&#039;: well over twenty, since they are multiple, especially for &#039;human rights&#039;, and most operate under seperate registration in multiple places. 

Small-scale front mainstream businesses: I&#039;d guess scores, and that listing and counting them is almost impossible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m new, never in, creepy EST/Forum friends for a while, used to enjoy irritating dianscolientolngists. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that the question is for Mr. Rinder, but I can make a start. Mike (with help would likely be able to make lists for the first two classes I indicate). Also, to Mr. Rinder, thank you for running this site on recent and currents in the world of Synthiotics.<br />
Alleged Churches, &#8216;Tech.&#8217; holding bodies, publishing, security, legal, administrative: at least twenty. </p>
<p>Front groups in prison counselling, drug rehabilitation, anti-psych., anti-medication, &#8216;human rights&#8217;: well over twenty, since they are multiple, especially for &#8216;human rights&#8217;, and most operate under seperate registration in multiple places. </p>
<p>Small-scale front mainstream businesses: I&#8217;d guess scores, and that listing and counting them is almost impossible.</p>
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		By: LoosingMyReligion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LoosingMyReligion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2024 16:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-official-chicago-org-ribbon-yanking-3-march/#comment-567200&quot;&gt;Heidi Butler&lt;/a&gt;.

Right. There are more than 80 countries over the world with no extradiction treaty with US. Just 12 in Southamerica. Something suggests to me that this last possibility is the most likely.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-official-chicago-org-ribbon-yanking-3-march/#comment-567200">Heidi Butler</a>.</p>
<p>Right. There are more than 80 countries over the world with no extradiction treaty with US. Just 12 in Southamerica. Something suggests to me that this last possibility is the most likely.</p>
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		By: Heidi Butler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heidi Butler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2024 15:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-official-chicago-org-ribbon-yanking-3-march/#comment-567106&quot;&gt;LoosingMyReligion&lt;/a&gt;.

I am wondering the same thing. 

What’s Miscavige’s end game when/if he’s indicted?

Will he run to a country that won’t extradite him back to the U.S.?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-official-chicago-org-ribbon-yanking-3-march/#comment-567106">LoosingMyReligion</a>.</p>
<p>I am wondering the same thing. </p>
<p>What’s Miscavige’s end game when/if he’s indicted?</p>
<p>Will he run to a country that won’t extradite him back to the U.S.?</p>
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		By: Tonia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tonia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2024 15:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Can you list (if you know) all the companies that are a front for Scientology.
A stand alone  topic, like you have for “home , mission statement, about “ ect.  
I just believe that maximum attention/.exposing  , these  companies , needs to be on direct display .
Standing out , and always showing last date updated.   I just want to always know/never mistake, doing business/give my money to “the wolf” in sheep’s clothing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you list (if you know) all the companies that are a front for Scientology.<br />
A stand alone  topic, like you have for “home , mission statement, about “ ect.<br />
I just believe that maximum attention/.exposing  , these  companies , needs to be on direct display .<br />
Standing out , and always showing last date updated.   I just want to always know/never mistake, doing business/give my money to “the wolf” in sheep’s clothing.</p>
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		By: AnEx		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2024 14:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Finally, it’s going apparently going to happen.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

You are so right: I can&#039;t find Joe Celala&#039;s Facebook entry anymore. Seems to have been deleted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>Finally, it’s going apparently going to happen.</b></i></p>
<p>You are so right: I can&#8217;t find Joe Celala&#8217;s Facebook entry anymore. Seems to have been deleted.</p>
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