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		By: Chee Chalker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chee Chalker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 15:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/jobur-ideal-org-moar-big-fail/#comment-27177&quot;&gt;Silvia&lt;/a&gt;.

Almost identical to the building in Chicago......vacant, never opened......the city will get to it eventually]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/jobur-ideal-org-moar-big-fail/#comment-27177">Silvia</a>.</p>
<p>Almost identical to the building in Chicago&#8230;&#8230;vacant, never opened&#8230;&#8230;the city will get to it eventually</p>
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		By: remoteviewed		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 20:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/jobur-ideal-org-moar-big-fail/#comment-27248&quot;&gt;Formost&lt;/a&gt;.

Exactly Foremost!

I figure a hidden factor must exist simply due to the fact that this constant fixation on Miscavige as the *sole* source hasn&#039;t really produced any salutary results as far as I personally can see. 

In other words it hasn&#039;t produced any as-isness of the situation.

From my point of view it has actually gotten worse.

Again applying what little I know about Scientology tech.

(I mean I&#039;ve merely done the Briefing Course and not GAK ;) )

That the whole scene like a problem or a &quot;safe solution&quot; continues because the actual prior confusion and what preceded it is never really inspected.

Or to put it in &quot;wog&quot; (again just kidding folks) terms no postmortem was actually ever done on the Guardian&#039;s failure to guard and protect Scientology and why the Controller&#039;s Office spun totally out of control.

All we are left with is the *in* Justice Department&#039;s stipulation of &quot;evidence&quot; which was basically the Government&#039;s effort to build a railroad.

I mean inquiring minds what to know why the two actual perps who actually did the deed walked away with basically a slap on the wrist while the so called &quot;Conspirators&quot; basically had the book thrown at them.

Questions, questions.

From what I understand about the scene was that the so called &quot;Conspirators&quot; lulled into believing that if they pled Nolo contendere that they would be victorious in appealing their sentences.

Advice which worked in favor of the Government particularly the CIA who would have had their Top Secret Remote Viewing Program brought up in a possible trial that would have included *all* files obtained by the Church and seized in the raid through their agent in place Pat Price who was reporting to the USGO about his part in this program.

So many dirty deeds done dirt cheap here.

Anyhoo thanks for getting back to me Foremost.

LR]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/jobur-ideal-org-moar-big-fail/#comment-27248">Formost</a>.</p>
<p>Exactly Foremost!</p>
<p>I figure a hidden factor must exist simply due to the fact that this constant fixation on Miscavige as the *sole* source hasn&#8217;t really produced any salutary results as far as I personally can see. </p>
<p>In other words it hasn&#8217;t produced any as-isness of the situation.</p>
<p>From my point of view it has actually gotten worse.</p>
<p>Again applying what little I know about Scientology tech.</p>
<p>(I mean I&#8217;ve merely done the Briefing Course and not GAK 😉 )</p>
<p>That the whole scene like a problem or a &#8220;safe solution&#8221; continues because the actual prior confusion and what preceded it is never really inspected.</p>
<p>Or to put it in &#8220;wog&#8221; (again just kidding folks) terms no postmortem was actually ever done on the Guardian&#8217;s failure to guard and protect Scientology and why the Controller&#8217;s Office spun totally out of control.</p>
<p>All we are left with is the *in* Justice Department&#8217;s stipulation of &#8220;evidence&#8221; which was basically the Government&#8217;s effort to build a railroad.</p>
<p>I mean inquiring minds what to know why the two actual perps who actually did the deed walked away with basically a slap on the wrist while the so called &#8220;Conspirators&#8221; basically had the book thrown at them.</p>
<p>Questions, questions.</p>
<p>From what I understand about the scene was that the so called &#8220;Conspirators&#8221; lulled into believing that if they pled Nolo contendere that they would be victorious in appealing their sentences.</p>
<p>Advice which worked in favor of the Government particularly the CIA who would have had their Top Secret Remote Viewing Program brought up in a possible trial that would have included *all* files obtained by the Church and seized in the raid through their agent in place Pat Price who was reporting to the USGO about his part in this program.</p>
<p>So many dirty deeds done dirt cheap here.</p>
<p>Anyhoo thanks for getting back to me Foremost.</p>
<p>LR</p>
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		By: Exterrier		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 08:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/jobur-ideal-org-moar-big-fail/#comment-27199&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

I just did that.    And what an education it is.    And now all that is a matter of public record, available on line to reporters,  scholars,  writers.... It is like a CAT Scan of the inner workings.  The secret is out.    Another huge high caliber foot bullet by Peerless Leader.    This was a very powerful day in the decline of his rule.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/jobur-ideal-org-moar-big-fail/#comment-27199">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>I just did that.    And what an education it is.    And now all that is a matter of public record, available on line to reporters,  scholars,  writers&#8230;. It is like a CAT Scan of the inner workings.  The secret is out.    Another huge high caliber foot bullet by Peerless Leader.    This was a very powerful day in the decline of his rule.</p>
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		By: Hallie Jane		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 07:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/jobur-ideal-org-moar-big-fail/#comment-27188&quot;&gt;LDW&lt;/a&gt;.

Right!  The big donators really should sue for their buildings and go independent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/jobur-ideal-org-moar-big-fail/#comment-27188">LDW</a>.</p>
<p>Right!  The big donators really should sue for their buildings and go independent.</p>
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		By: Jens TINGLEFF		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jens TINGLEFF]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 06:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/jobur-ideal-org-moar-big-fail/#comment-27188&quot;&gt;LDW&lt;/a&gt;.

Seconded. The fund raising methods would not withstand the light of day, never mind criminal justice. Organised fraud is what the criminal organisation known as the &quot;church&quot; of $cientology got convicted for in France, I wager the fundraising for this is far beyond what was heard of tin France...]]></description>
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<p>Seconded. The fund raising methods would not withstand the light of day, never mind criminal justice. Organised fraud is what the criminal organisation known as the &#8220;church&#8221; of $cientology got convicted for in France, I wager the fundraising for this is far beyond what was heard of tin France&#8230;</p>
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		By: Formost		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 06:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/jobur-ideal-org-moar-big-fail/#comment-27200&quot;&gt;remoteviewed&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Church of Scientology is it is allegedly (I say “allegedly” because I suspect some “unseen hand” who is really calling the shots because I don’t think Miscavige is smart enough to fuck up the subject this badly) run by an untrained No Gain Case moron who hasn’t been in session himself in over two decades.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I tend to agree with that as well as your assessment of the Admin Tech. It&#039;s being very covertly destroyed hiding all apparancies of it, such as asinine programs such as &quot;Ideal Orgs&quot;. How can anyone not know it throws people off the bridge while scamming a fortune in the same feel swoop. An unknown background player exists somewhere.]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>Church of Scientology is it is allegedly (I say “allegedly” because I suspect some “unseen hand” who is really calling the shots because I don’t think Miscavige is smart enough to fuck up the subject this badly) run by an untrained No Gain Case moron who hasn’t been in session himself in over two decades.</p></blockquote>
<p>I tend to agree with that as well as your assessment of the Admin Tech. It&#8217;s being very covertly destroyed hiding all apparancies of it, such as asinine programs such as &#8220;Ideal Orgs&#8221;. How can anyone not know it throws people off the bridge while scamming a fortune in the same feel swoop. An unknown background player exists somewhere.</p>
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		By: Black Panther		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/jobur-ideal-org-moar-big-fail/#comment-27230</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Black Panther]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 04:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/jobur-ideal-org-moar-big-fail/#comment-27228&quot;&gt;1984&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks 1984 - good to know we have good folk behind us :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/jobur-ideal-org-moar-big-fail/#comment-27228">1984</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks 1984 &#8211; good to know we have good folk behind us 🙂</p>
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		By: 1984		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[1984]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 04:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/jobur-ideal-org-moar-big-fail/#comment-27195&quot;&gt;Black Panther&lt;/a&gt;.

BP, You have a great blog, and I agree with the quote - you can do it (with your own version of Scientology).
As Tony said, now is the time to do the final practical step of your SP / PTS course. Deal with the bastards. 
We have your backs.]]></description>
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<p>BP, You have a great blog, and I agree with the quote &#8211; you can do it (with your own version of Scientology).<br />
As Tony said, now is the time to do the final practical step of your SP / PTS course. Deal with the bastards.<br />
We have your backs.</p>
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		By: Scott Campbell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Campbell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 03:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Miscavige has so many epic fails... I hate to say it but this almost feels like &quot;par for the course&quot; so far. 

This Church of Scientology &quot;Experience Model&quot; shall soon become the norm worldwide. When that happens, the collapse of the church shall accelerate exponentially. 

I&#039;m predicting 2 to 3 years to utter failure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miscavige has so many epic fails&#8230; I hate to say it but this almost feels like &#8220;par for the course&#8221; so far. </p>
<p>This Church of Scientology &#8220;Experience Model&#8221; shall soon become the norm worldwide. When that happens, the collapse of the church shall accelerate exponentially. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m predicting 2 to 3 years to utter failure.</p>
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		By: Madora Pennington		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Madora Pennington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 03:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[DM fucked with the wrong continent. I love these South Africans.]]></description>
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