Comments on: Johannesburg “Ideal” Org — Truth Revealed first published 2 April 2013

By: Derek

Derek — Mon, 09 Mar 2020 12:38:18 +0000

That was an excellent ‘return missionnaire debrief’, and it sounds so, so, so familiar and DEPRESSING!
You can count on it that this is the state of more or less all the ‘ideal morgues’. I’ve seen this pattern over and over in EU. It still makes me sad reading this, most of those (ex-)staffs are well intentioned people who want to do good in the world and make a difference. So many broken dreams and failed goals.
The sooner this whole network gets taken down, the sooner the suffering will end.

By: unelectedfloofgoofer

unelectedfloofgoofer — Mon, 09 Mar 2020 11:13:22 +0000

Fascinating inside intelligence. There is a great deal of ruin in the cult.

By: TrevAnon

TrevAnon — Mon, 09 Mar 2020 06:04:18 +0000

We finally made it

OVER 3,000 EX-COS MEMBERS HAVE SPOKEN OUT!

https://whyweprotest.wikia.org/wiki/Former_Church_of_Scientology_members_who_have_spoken_out

Background of the big list: http://www.reasoned.life/2018/02/spotlight-on-anonymous-big-list/

By: James Rosso

James Rosso — Mon, 09 Mar 2020 02:14:59 +0000

> the uniforms have to be dry-cleaned!

…What? I thought ‘dry clean only’ garments were things for very special occasions only, like expensive dresses or tuxedoes. What idiot thought it was a good idea to make -work clothes- dry clean only?

JMFC just when i thought Scientology couldn’t get any stupider.

By: Imaberrated

Imaberrated — Sun, 08 Mar 2020 21:25:21 +0000

Due to attrition, I became the only C/S and auditor in my org. I was trained as Word Clearer on the original GOAT Supervisor/Word Clearer evolution at Flag. I had earlier trained as Course Supervisor to cover KTL/LOC. I ended up the only tech personnel in my Day org, apart from Purif I/C.

It’s interesting that I followed a similar arc to what is described here about the auditor being posted as Course Supervisor. I can’t remember what happened to the GOAT Course Supervisor that I trained with. I had to take the course room. No auditing was happening, which helped justify it.

By: LoosingMyReligion

LoosingMyReligion — Sun, 08 Mar 2020 18:01:46 +0000

In reply to Theetie Wheetie. It would be incredible if all these people asked for the money back. They didn't buy anything. A donation is never by chance but has an address. There is no exchange and everything fraudulently violates the cult policies. They could not be declared as they donated 17 mils for something that doesn't exist.

By: Mike Rinder

Mike Rinder — Sun, 08 Mar 2020 17:01:26 +0000

In reply to Miss Dutch. Yes understood. My thinking has been cleared considerably since then.

By: LoosingMyReligion

LoosingMyReligion — Sun, 08 Mar 2020 16:02:43 +0000

This is the xerox of all the other ideal orgs. Stats pushed ‘tone 40’ like if there is no tomorrow till these make a hole in the roof but nothing will become stable. Bridges to the illusion that they are expanding but made with the bodies of dead SO member and staff. DM is more than suppressive.

By: Theetie Wheetie

Theetie Wheetie — Sun, 08 Mar 2020 16:01:29 +0000

Mike, I hope you are having a fantastic vacation. “Miscavige Ideal Org SCAMS” is such a good name for the con of epic proportions to the members of Scientology. St Louis, Missouri Scientologists have been duped beyond belief for over a decade. Word on the street is they are selling the Ideal Org now because after doing a “Scientology DEBUG”, Scientology determined they did not need the 50,000 sq.ft. building after all. Using the amazing L Ron Hubbard Tech, it was determined they will be fine staying right where they have been since the 90’s at 6901 Delmar in University City, MO. (EYES ROLLLING) Meanwhile, the fraudulent David Miscavige’s Church of Scientology pockets the $17 million that was fleeced, bribed, extorted and fraudulently manipulated out of active Scientologists. How convenient? This was completed by lead fraudulent fundraisers and Executive Directors of St Louis Org, Chad Lane and Mathew Hanses. If this was a legitimate business, they would be shut down, the players involved thrown in prison and the money refunded to the robotic Scientologists that believe everything they are told. It really is an IDEAL SCAM. I hope they get shut down for this unethical and criminal behavior.

By: Miss Dutch

Miss Dutch — Sun, 08 Mar 2020 15:36:32 +0000

I know you are on vacation (you lucky guy) so you may not read this for a while. I could tell while reading this post that, at the time it was written, your mind was still somewhat stuck in Scientology. Words like ‘squirrel’ are not used by we mere wogs. It is one of the most insidious things about Scientology, the way it uses language to keep hold of your thoughts, even when you have physically left.