Comments on: Joining the Sea Org — You Need a Replacement

By: Constantine

Constantine — Fri, 23 Aug 2024 08:13:25 +0000

One more example of this low class cult exerting power and control by using fear.

Joni should know better.

By: Mikey

Mikey — Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:20:44 +0000

In reply to Dave Fagen. Ultimate bait and switch: Sign a billion year contract to help put ethics in on the planet. All too soon, you realize it’s an impossible goal, only to get comm ev’d and routed to the RPF to eat those legendary rice and beans and think to yourself, as you wait to use the communal toilet, ‘What the fuck have I done?!’

By: Dave Fagen

Dave Fagen — Thu, 22 Aug 2024 16:27:26 +0000

In reply to Mikey. Good point. I never thought about the rice & beans aspect of that before. I just thought about how it would have made my life miserable.

By: Apostate Alex

Apostate Alex — Thu, 22 Aug 2024 12:42:46 +0000

It’s the same, even for Scientology staff members. When I signed my Sea Org contract, we worked out a ‘project prepare’ – things that need to happen in order for me to arrive in the SO at Flag. Getting an R-1 religious worker visa, for example, was considered one of the easier things, whereas convincing my non-Scientology parents I had made the right decision was a little more complex. I was on staff at London Org at the time and I was fully expected to recruit and train up a replacement before I’d be allowed to ‘leave my staff contract early’ even though I was doing so to join the Sea Org. Back then, Orgs were desperate to hang on to every staff member they could – and I can only imagine the situation is worse today. The replacement wasn’t allowed to be an existing staff member that could be re-assigned to cover my post.. it had to be a brand new recruit specifically hired to take my job, who was producing to the same standards – before I would be allowed to leave.

By: Mikey

Mikey — Thu, 22 Aug 2024 03:21:46 +0000

In reply to Dave Fagen. Just think, you saved yourself from having to dine on untold courses of rice and beans!

By: Scooter

Scooter — Thu, 22 Aug 2024 00:05:55 +0000

I remember way back when in Sydney org when Jan Eastgate’s replacement wanted to leave as her contract had finished (iirc was 2&1/2 years) and she was told she had to replace herself.

Several months later she wrote to ED Int and got a reply back that she didn’t have to as there was no policy for Cl V org staff having to replace themselves.

She bolted out the door very quickly.:)

By: Alfred Mann

Alfred Mann — Wed, 21 Aug 2024 21:25:08 +0000

As a Certified HR Professional, I can confirm that this person has no obligation to find a “replacement” for his or her job functions. Zero in fact.
That includes Scientology organizations.
Having been on staff and having been certified as Exec Status One I can also confirm that the policy is one of an ecclesiastical nature and not a lawful nature.
There is a difference between group rules and the law.
This person is free to do as he or she pleases.

Charles M., PHR

By: Mike Reppen

Mike Reppen — Wed, 21 Aug 2024 20:15:29 +0000

I knew Joni for years when she was an exec at LA Org in the 80s.

By: jim rowles

jim rowles — Wed, 21 Aug 2024 20:05:38 +0000

Mike,

The only way this creepy ad makes sense to me is that the Impound is run by scienos. Otherwise it is simply an insane blurb destined for the shredder and then trash.

By: Dave Fagen

Dave Fagen — Wed, 21 Aug 2024 19:01:05 +0000

The rule that when a Scientology staff member at a Class V org joins the Sea Org, he or she has to be replaced on his post in the Class V org before he or she can actually go into the Sea Org – this rule saved my life. I was talked into signing a Sea Org contract and making the commitment to going into the Sea Org after a certain person would replace me on my post. And this person who was supposed to replace me kept on “making it go wrong”, and kept delaying replacing me for months and months, until I finally changed my mind, and that was the end of it. That is the only Scientology rule that I am grateful for.