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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/just-how-desperate-is-la-org/#comment-323675</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jan 2020 00:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/just-how-desperate-is-la-org/#comment-323474&quot;&gt;JVB&lt;/a&gt;.

Absolutely right, JVB!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/just-how-desperate-is-la-org/#comment-323474">JVB</a>.</p>
<p>Absolutely right, JVB!</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jan 2020 00:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/just-how-desperate-is-la-org/#comment-323431&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

:) Wynski.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/just-how-desperate-is-la-org/#comment-323431">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>🙂 Wynski.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/just-how-desperate-is-la-org/#comment-323671</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jan 2020 00:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/just-how-desperate-is-la-org/#comment-323522&quot;&gt;OTVIIIisGrrr8!&lt;/a&gt;.

OTVIIIisGrrr8, LOL, and thank you.  You are one very funny guy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/just-how-desperate-is-la-org/#comment-323522">OTVIIIisGrrr8!</a>.</p>
<p>OTVIIIisGrrr8, LOL, and thank you.  You are one very funny guy.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jan 2020 00:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/just-how-desperate-is-la-org/#comment-323529&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

Peacemaker, I believe none of us would wish punishment on the Still In staff.  I believe none of us here would want pain inflicted on anyone, even, when it would come right down to it, on David Miscavige.  My impression of this group here is that we&#039;re a civilized group of fundamentally kind, fair and considerate people.  That said, I do also believe that CL V staff and Sea Org won&#039;t route out or blow unless their threshold of abuse is reached - personally, each one of them. I think that personally experiencing injustice and abuse will be the only way that each of them decides to leave.  Injustice and/or punishment and/or abuse, up close, and personally experienced in sufficient volume will slam the truth about the cult home.  The pressure of the punishment and abuse has to be greater than the pressure of their brainwashing.  I wish I didn&#039;t believe this and possibly I&#039;m wrong.  I&#039;d like to be wrong about this.  I&#039;d like for them to &quot;cognite&quot; analytically with no suffering or pain.  Maybe its possible, but I don&#039;t think so.  Therefore, the more they get screamed at and punished unfairly is, I believe, the faster they will leave. How much is too much?  I guess that depends on the person.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/just-how-desperate-is-la-org/#comment-323529">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>Peacemaker, I believe none of us would wish punishment on the Still In staff.  I believe none of us here would want pain inflicted on anyone, even, when it would come right down to it, on David Miscavige.  My impression of this group here is that we&#8217;re a civilized group of fundamentally kind, fair and considerate people.  That said, I do also believe that CL V staff and Sea Org won&#8217;t route out or blow unless their threshold of abuse is reached &#8211; personally, each one of them. I think that personally experiencing injustice and abuse will be the only way that each of them decides to leave.  Injustice and/or punishment and/or abuse, up close, and personally experienced in sufficient volume will slam the truth about the cult home.  The pressure of the punishment and abuse has to be greater than the pressure of their brainwashing.  I wish I didn&#8217;t believe this and possibly I&#8217;m wrong.  I&#8217;d like to be wrong about this.  I&#8217;d like for them to &#8220;cognite&#8221; analytically with no suffering or pain.  Maybe its possible, but I don&#8217;t think so.  Therefore, the more they get screamed at and punished unfairly is, I believe, the faster they will leave. How much is too much?  I guess that depends on the person.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/just-how-desperate-is-la-org/#comment-323665</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jan 2020 00:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/just-how-desperate-is-la-org/#comment-323616&quot;&gt;thomas&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;...folks in this sea org...are terrified of having to live on their own.&quot;  And the older they get, the less likely they are to leave on their own.    And if they joined young having never been on their own the likelihood that they&#039;ll leave  is even less.

And THESE are the people who are going to get OUR ethics in.

Not up to the level of the most unenlightened working wog stiff, can&#039;t even partially support themselves, insufficient confront to even venture out into the world on their own, yet the PLANET will survive based upon what THEY do?  The future of Mankind is wholly reliant on...THEM?

Too ridiculous for words.  

I always thought so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/just-how-desperate-is-la-org/#comment-323616">thomas</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;folks in this sea org&#8230;are terrified of having to live on their own.&#8221;  And the older they get, the less likely they are to leave on their own.    And if they joined young having never been on their own the likelihood that they&#8217;ll leave  is even less.</p>
<p>And THESE are the people who are going to get OUR ethics in.</p>
<p>Not up to the level of the most unenlightened working wog stiff, can&#8217;t even partially support themselves, insufficient confront to even venture out into the world on their own, yet the PLANET will survive based upon what THEY do?  The future of Mankind is wholly reliant on&#8230;THEM?</p>
<p>Too ridiculous for words.  </p>
<p>I always thought so.</p>
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		By: thomas		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2020 17:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I always have to keep in mind that folks in this sea org who haven&#039;t known anything else are terrified of having to live on their own. It&#039;s just a sick and twisted scam on the part of people like david miscavaige and tom cruise to further their own agendas at the expense of mentally enslaved human beings. There&#039;s a special place in hell for the perpetrators.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always have to keep in mind that folks in this sea org who haven&#8217;t known anything else are terrified of having to live on their own. It&#8217;s just a sick and twisted scam on the part of people like david miscavaige and tom cruise to further their own agendas at the expense of mentally enslaved human beings. There&#8217;s a special place in hell for the perpetrators.</p>
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		By: WhatWall		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2020 15:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the late 70&#039;s LA Org was bustling. The Div 6 course room was often nearly full. The parking lot was almost full. That was probably the zenith of Scientology growth. It&#039;s been a steady down hill slide since then.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the late 70&#8217;s LA Org was bustling. The Div 6 course room was often nearly full. The parking lot was almost full. That was probably the zenith of Scientology growth. It&#8217;s been a steady down hill slide since then.</p>
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		By: Skyler		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2020 14:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/just-how-desperate-is-la-org/#comment-323416&quot;&gt;Ms; B. Haven&lt;/a&gt;.

Or send her to a bank so she can prevent the greedy slime balls from stealing all her money.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/just-how-desperate-is-la-org/#comment-323416">Ms; B. Haven</a>.</p>
<p>Or send her to a bank so she can prevent the greedy slime balls from stealing all her money.</p>
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		By: Roger Larsson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Larsson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2020 13:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[20+ just go because the most is ahead of them. 60+ think,because the most is behind them. A cult reaching 70 years should be wise but it&#039;s dumb.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>20+ just go because the most is ahead of them. 60+ think,because the most is behind them. A cult reaching 70 years should be wise but it&#8217;s dumb.</p>
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		By: Francis Khoury		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francis Khoury]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2020 12:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/just-how-desperate-is-la-org/#comment-323423&quot;&gt;LoosingMyReligion&lt;/a&gt;.

LoosingMyReligion, I wish you a speedy and full recovery.  I was once in a Catholic religious community akin to the Sea Org.  I believe it was nowhere nearly as bad as being a Scientologist, but it still had detrimental effects on my thinking, some of which I am only realizing many years later.  I applaud you for getting out of it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/just-how-desperate-is-la-org/#comment-323423">LoosingMyReligion</a>.</p>
<p>LoosingMyReligion, I wish you a speedy and full recovery.  I was once in a Catholic religious community akin to the Sea Org.  I believe it was nowhere nearly as bad as being a Scientologist, but it still had detrimental effects on my thinking, some of which I am only realizing many years later.  I applaud you for getting out of it.</p>
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