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		By: L. Ron Hubbard: My Philosophy		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] recently did a post about “What Is Greatness” (L. Ron Hubbard &#8212; Dr. Jekyll or Mr. Hyde?). This is a follow up with another of Hubbard&#8217;s &#8220;PR&#8221; pieces intended to make him [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] recently did a post about “What Is Greatness” (L. Ron Hubbard &#8212; Dr. Jekyll or Mr. Hyde?). This is a follow up with another of Hubbard&#8217;s &#8220;PR&#8221; pieces intended to make him [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Mockingbird		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-dr-jekyll-or-mr-hyde/#comment-592557</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mockingbird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2024 00:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-dr-jekyll-or-mr-hyde/#comment-592363&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

You are certainly welcome to read everything that I have available, whatever is interesting to you or is helpful is there for exactly that reason. 

I try to write for everyone but my main and first audience is cult members and ex members, particularly Scientologists and ex Scientologists who have similar experiences and issues to my own. 

I go through a lot of effort to make clear and easily understood content that references sources and lists citations so that people can pursue their own education and recovery with ease. 

You are welcome to ask me anything you like. I can refer you to many posts and references that have helped others to untangle themselves from Hubbard&#039;s web of lies. 

If I do not know about something I can always try to find out and write about it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-dr-jekyll-or-mr-hyde/#comment-592363">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>You are certainly welcome to read everything that I have available, whatever is interesting to you or is helpful is there for exactly that reason. </p>
<p>I try to write for everyone but my main and first audience is cult members and ex members, particularly Scientologists and ex Scientologists who have similar experiences and issues to my own. </p>
<p>I go through a lot of effort to make clear and easily understood content that references sources and lists citations so that people can pursue their own education and recovery with ease. </p>
<p>You are welcome to ask me anything you like. I can refer you to many posts and references that have helped others to untangle themselves from Hubbard&#8217;s web of lies. </p>
<p>If I do not know about something I can always try to find out and write about it.</p>
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		By: Mikey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Sep 2024 04:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let’s give credit where credit is due. L. Ron Hubbard was one of the greatest cult leaders of all time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let’s give credit where credit is due. L. Ron Hubbard was one of the greatest cult leaders of all time.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Sep 2024 02:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-dr-jekyll-or-mr-hyde/#comment-592362&quot;&gt;Mockingbird&lt;/a&gt;.

Mockingbird, thank you.  What you&#039;ve written is a lot around which my limited mental mitts must wrap.  I&#039;d rather go to your blog and get my feet wet there before plunging in with the references you&#039;ve recommended.  It is important to me to understand, and I will pursue this.  It is difficult for me.  But I won&#039;t give up.  Thank you again for caring enough to help me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-dr-jekyll-or-mr-hyde/#comment-592362">Mockingbird</a>.</p>
<p>Mockingbird, thank you.  What you&#8217;ve written is a lot around which my limited mental mitts must wrap.  I&#8217;d rather go to your blog and get my feet wet there before plunging in with the references you&#8217;ve recommended.  It is important to me to understand, and I will pursue this.  It is difficult for me.  But I won&#8217;t give up.  Thank you again for caring enough to help me.</p>
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		By: Mockingbird		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mockingbird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Sep 2024 02:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-dr-jekyll-or-mr-hyde/#comment-592317&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, I have looked at his actions, his claims, his private letters and writings to some degree including the Skipper Letter, and The Ackerman letter and several others. I consider these along with his affirmations (private self hypnosis commands he likely used on himself thousands of times) essential to understanding Hubbard.

Many excerpts from Scientology doctrine in my opinion show that he intentionally used hypnosis and psychological techniques to confuse, degrade, and mentally harm people to mentally enslave them, while knowing full well that he would be causing tremendous damage to his victims emotionally and psychologically, often for decades or life. 

Numerous models such as the malignant narcissist and Traumatic Narcissism by Daniel Shaw as well as The Solipsistic Reality by Robert Jay Lifton are thought provoking and worth considering. I also have looked at the model for a sociopath and narcissist by Martha Stout from her back The Sociopath Next Door.

I personally have accepted ideas from several of these and ones examined in A Theory of Cognitive Dissonance by Leon Festinger.

My personal opinion is that Hubbard fit a description called a malignant narcissist or vulnerable narcissist.

I have written on this at length at my blog Mockingbird&#039;s Nest, blog on Scientology.

To give a brief description there is a model that describes a mind that is split or fractured. We have one part that is a false self aka outer self or facade. It&#039;s a creation that is (seen by the person as being) perfect, godlike, flawless, brilliant, competent, tough, without guilt or anything negative. It&#039;s a being that no one should doubt or contradict or not trust or obey. 

It&#039;s a perfect being that only plays two roles ever, hero or if failing and unable to hide the failure a blameless victim. 

The other part that is hidden is the inner self. This is a self image and not reality either, a different delusion. Whether from abuse, neglect, sexual assault, (often as a child) genetics or a combination or other causes some rare individuals end up with the idea that they are worthless, useless, not worthy of love or mercy or compassion ever and that they have no hope for recovery or improvement.

This inner self is seen as atrophied, meaning because of circumstances it never developed emotional maturity and is incapable of being mature and forming mature relationships, it&#039;s seen as petulant, belligerent, with no empathy or compassion for others but having profound sensitivity to slights or any lack of recognition or admiration from others. It&#039;s seen as failing to use self reflection for improvement or growth as an individual and also failing to empathize with others or to love others in mature relationships.

This model describes the perfect self as presented to the outside world as much as possible and preferred to knowing that the person is actually not (in their own opinion) this idealized opposite to the inner self. 

Lifton describes the person as trying to will their lies into reality and accepting them as reality. Lifton also recognizes another portion that knows the lies as lies while acting to hide them and avoid the consequences of them being false and the consequences of the lies being false in truth. 

I think Hubbard had no good part, no portion that actually loved other people. His writings show he knew he was harming and lying to people, his actions confirmed this.

I invite anyone who&#039;s interested to check out Mockingbird&#039;s Nest blog on Scientology and I have a blog archive by topic to look up any topic one desires. 

Below is a link to the blog archive by topic at Mockingbird&#039;s Nest blog on Scientology

https://mbnest.blogspot.com/2020/07/blog-archive-by-topic.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-dr-jekyll-or-mr-hyde/#comment-592317">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Well, I have looked at his actions, his claims, his private letters and writings to some degree including the Skipper Letter, and The Ackerman letter and several others. I consider these along with his affirmations (private self hypnosis commands he likely used on himself thousands of times) essential to understanding Hubbard.</p>
<p>Many excerpts from Scientology doctrine in my opinion show that he intentionally used hypnosis and psychological techniques to confuse, degrade, and mentally harm people to mentally enslave them, while knowing full well that he would be causing tremendous damage to his victims emotionally and psychologically, often for decades or life. </p>
<p>Numerous models such as the malignant narcissist and Traumatic Narcissism by Daniel Shaw as well as The Solipsistic Reality by Robert Jay Lifton are thought provoking and worth considering. I also have looked at the model for a sociopath and narcissist by Martha Stout from her back The Sociopath Next Door.</p>
<p>I personally have accepted ideas from several of these and ones examined in A Theory of Cognitive Dissonance by Leon Festinger.</p>
<p>My personal opinion is that Hubbard fit a description called a malignant narcissist or vulnerable narcissist.</p>
<p>I have written on this at length at my blog Mockingbird&#8217;s Nest, blog on Scientology.</p>
<p>To give a brief description there is a model that describes a mind that is split or fractured. We have one part that is a false self aka outer self or facade. It&#8217;s a creation that is (seen by the person as being) perfect, godlike, flawless, brilliant, competent, tough, without guilt or anything negative. It&#8217;s a being that no one should doubt or contradict or not trust or obey. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a perfect being that only plays two roles ever, hero or if failing and unable to hide the failure a blameless victim. </p>
<p>The other part that is hidden is the inner self. This is a self image and not reality either, a different delusion. Whether from abuse, neglect, sexual assault, (often as a child) genetics or a combination or other causes some rare individuals end up with the idea that they are worthless, useless, not worthy of love or mercy or compassion ever and that they have no hope for recovery or improvement.</p>
<p>This inner self is seen as atrophied, meaning because of circumstances it never developed emotional maturity and is incapable of being mature and forming mature relationships, it&#8217;s seen as petulant, belligerent, with no empathy or compassion for others but having profound sensitivity to slights or any lack of recognition or admiration from others. It&#8217;s seen as failing to use self reflection for improvement or growth as an individual and also failing to empathize with others or to love others in mature relationships.</p>
<p>This model describes the perfect self as presented to the outside world as much as possible and preferred to knowing that the person is actually not (in their own opinion) this idealized opposite to the inner self. </p>
<p>Lifton describes the person as trying to will their lies into reality and accepting them as reality. Lifton also recognizes another portion that knows the lies as lies while acting to hide them and avoid the consequences of them being false and the consequences of the lies being false in truth. </p>
<p>I think Hubbard had no good part, no portion that actually loved other people. His writings show he knew he was harming and lying to people, his actions confirmed this.</p>
<p>I invite anyone who&#8217;s interested to check out Mockingbird&#8217;s Nest blog on Scientology and I have a blog archive by topic to look up any topic one desires. </p>
<p>Below is a link to the blog archive by topic at Mockingbird&#8217;s Nest blog on Scientology</p>
<p><a href="https://mbnest.blogspot.com/2020/07/blog-archive-by-topic.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://mbnest.blogspot.com/2020/07/blog-archive-by-topic.html</a></p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-dr-jekyll-or-mr-hyde/#comment-592358</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Sep 2024 01:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-dr-jekyll-or-mr-hyde/#comment-592350&quot;&gt;Xenos&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, Xenos.  I&#039;m not that knowledgeable about bi polar disorder or manic disorder.  Obviously we all have our moods, our sunny days and our gloomy days.  But it just blows my mind how ONE individual can have within himself the capabilities of caring deeply about people and dealing with some people with the true intention of helping them, understanding them, not judging them ever,   allieviating their sufferings, opening new avenues of awareness for them, etc., etc., and at the same time, the capabilities of systematically and ruthlessly destroying other people...and with these 180 degree opposite capabilities themselves capable of being turned on and off, like two faucets...its hard for me to grasp.  But then, that&#039;s because, frankly, I WAS helped by his tech.  As a public (never staff) it WAS delivered to me  correctly (or in such a way, I should say) that it benefited me a good deal.   While at the same time, there are others here whose lives were completely ruined for a while by OTHER tech from the SAME person...and I don&#039;t for a minute doubt that this, and, further,  I am in total solidarity with them for the cruel injustice they have suffered, simply for speaking out...well, I guess you get the point. 

 Perhaps I&#039;m trying to find some excuse, some major fundamental excuse for these dichotomies both operative in the person that was LRH. And perhaps, in my struggling  to find some mental illness excuse to NOT accept that someone could be so utterly and completely deceptive and inherently and actively evil, perhaps I&#039;m probably just a fool - its possible.  I&#039;ve always been something of a fool, actually.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-dr-jekyll-or-mr-hyde/#comment-592350">Xenos</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, Xenos.  I&#8217;m not that knowledgeable about bi polar disorder or manic disorder.  Obviously we all have our moods, our sunny days and our gloomy days.  But it just blows my mind how ONE individual can have within himself the capabilities of caring deeply about people and dealing with some people with the true intention of helping them, understanding them, not judging them ever,   allieviating their sufferings, opening new avenues of awareness for them, etc., etc., and at the same time, the capabilities of systematically and ruthlessly destroying other people&#8230;and with these 180 degree opposite capabilities themselves capable of being turned on and off, like two faucets&#8230;its hard for me to grasp.  But then, that&#8217;s because, frankly, I WAS helped by his tech.  As a public (never staff) it WAS delivered to me  correctly (or in such a way, I should say) that it benefited me a good deal.   While at the same time, there are others here whose lives were completely ruined for a while by OTHER tech from the SAME person&#8230;and I don&#8217;t for a minute doubt that this, and, further,  I am in total solidarity with them for the cruel injustice they have suffered, simply for speaking out&#8230;well, I guess you get the point. </p>
<p> Perhaps I&#8217;m trying to find some excuse, some major fundamental excuse for these dichotomies both operative in the person that was LRH. And perhaps, in my struggling  to find some mental illness excuse to NOT accept that someone could be so utterly and completely deceptive and inherently and actively evil, perhaps I&#8217;m probably just a fool &#8211; its possible.  I&#8217;ve always been something of a fool, actually.</p>
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		By: Xenos		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xenos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Sep 2024 00:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-dr-jekyll-or-mr-hyde/#comment-592317&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Every possibility he was bi polar or manic. People with bi polar are wonderful one minute seeing the world with loving eyes and nothing is of fault and next minute can turn bitter and see the world with different coloured glasses. I guess we will never know but my gut feeling is that the kind and loving messages he put out was just a charade to gain trust from people who he would later use for his personal benefit. He often didn’t practice what he preached which suggests that he didn’t buy what he was selling.

On more pressing matters, I’m jumping on the Swans bandwagon (who I’m sure Mike will be supporting today) all Australians will know what I’m talking about so let’s hear a COMMON SOUTH MELBOURNE!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-dr-jekyll-or-mr-hyde/#comment-592317">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Every possibility he was bi polar or manic. People with bi polar are wonderful one minute seeing the world with loving eyes and nothing is of fault and next minute can turn bitter and see the world with different coloured glasses. I guess we will never know but my gut feeling is that the kind and loving messages he put out was just a charade to gain trust from people who he would later use for his personal benefit. He often didn’t practice what he preached which suggests that he didn’t buy what he was selling.</p>
<p>On more pressing matters, I’m jumping on the Swans bandwagon (who I’m sure Mike will be supporting today) all Australians will know what I’m talking about so let’s hear a COMMON SOUTH MELBOURNE!!!!!</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Sep 2024 19:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-dr-jekyll-or-mr-hyde/#comment-592244&quot;&gt;Mockingbird&lt;/a&gt;.

Funny :)  But actually, lately I&#039;ve begun to ponder the possibility that Hubbard was schizophrenic - not in the delusionional sense but in having two distinctly opposite personalities.  I mean, his writings, policies, etc. about caring for people and helping people are so wonderful and compassionate, helpful and good, and then, there are the bitter, furious, vengeful, merciless writings and policies coming from the same person...I don&#039;t get .  Perhaps &quot;schizophrenic&quot; is not the right term for someone who has two distinctly opposite personalities in the same body...?  Of course, I have only LRH&#039;s writings to go on - I didn&#039;t Know him personally, never met him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-dr-jekyll-or-mr-hyde/#comment-592244">Mockingbird</a>.</p>
<p>Funny 🙂  But actually, lately I&#8217;ve begun to ponder the possibility that Hubbard was schizophrenic &#8211; not in the delusionional sense but in having two distinctly opposite personalities.  I mean, his writings, policies, etc. about caring for people and helping people are so wonderful and compassionate, helpful and good, and then, there are the bitter, furious, vengeful, merciless writings and policies coming from the same person&#8230;I don&#8217;t get .  Perhaps &#8220;schizophrenic&#8221; is not the right term for someone who has two distinctly opposite personalities in the same body&#8230;?  Of course, I have only LRH&#8217;s writings to go on &#8211; I didn&#8217;t Know him personally, never met him.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Sep 2024 03:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know that Mike Rinder, like myself has read the book The Sociopath Next Door by Martha Stout. 

I think her remarks on both sociopaths and narcissists are insightful and appropriate for describing the mind and character of Lafayette Ronald Hubbard. I think her description of a narcissist is appropriate.

Here are several of her quotes from that book:

Quotes from the book, The Sociopath Next Door, by Martha Stout, PhD
October 8, 2019 by alaughingsoul Leave a comment

“Sociopathy is the inability to process emotional experience, including love and caring, except when such experience can be calculated as a coldly intellectual task.”

“To admit that some people literally have no conscience is not technically the same as saying that some human beings are evil, but it is disturbingly close. And good people want very much not to believe in the personification of evil.”

“If, instead, you find yourself often pitying someone who consistently hurts you or other people, and who actively campaigns for your sympathy, the chances are close to 100 percent that you are dealing with a sociopath.”

“Sociopaths have no regard whatsoever for the social contract, but they do know how to use it to their advantage. And all in all, I am sure that if the devil existed, he would want us to feel very sorry for him.”

“Rather, the best clue is, of all things, the pity play. The most reliable sign, the most universal behavior of unscrupulous people is not directed, as one might imagine, at our fearfulness. It is, perversely, an appeal to our sympathy. ”

“And sociopaths are noted especially for their shallowness of emotion, the hollow and transient nature of any affectionate feelings they may claim to have, a certain breathtaking callousness. They have no trace of empathy and no genuine interest in bonding emotionally with a mate. Once the surface charm is scraped off, their marriages are loveless, one-sided, and almost always short-term. If a marriage partner has any value to the sociopath, it is because the partner is viewed as a possession, one that the sociopath may feel angry to lose, but never sad or accountable.”

“If all you had ever felt toward another person were the cold wish to “win,” how would you understand the meaning of love, of friendship, of caring? You would not understand. You would simply go on dominating, and denying, and feeling superior. Perhaps you would experience a little emptiness sometimes, a remote sense of dissatisfaction, but that is all.”

“As a counterpoint to sociopathy, the condition of narcissism is particularly interesting and instructive. Narcissism is, in a metaphorical sense, one half of what sociopathy is. Even clinical narcissists are able to feel most emotions are strongly as anyone else does, from guilt to sadness to desperate love and passion. The half that is missing is the crucial ability to understand what other people are feeling. Narcissism is a failure not of conscience but of empathy, which is the capacity to perceive emotions in others and so react to them appropriately. The poor narcissist cannot see past his own nose, emotionally speaking, and as with the Pillsbury Doughboy, any input from the outside will spring back as if nothing had happened. Unlike sociopaths, narcissists often are in psychological pain, and may sometimes seek psychotherapy. When a narcissist looks for help, one of the underlying issues is usually that, unbeknownst to him, he is alienating his relationships on account of his lack of empathy with others, and is feeling confused, abandoned, and lonely. He misses the people he loves, and is ill-equipped to get them back. Sociopaths, in contrast, do not care about other people, and so do not miss them when they are alienated or gone, except as one might regret the absence of a useful appliance that one has somehow lost.”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that Mike Rinder, like myself has read the book The Sociopath Next Door by Martha Stout. </p>
<p>I think her remarks on both sociopaths and narcissists are insightful and appropriate for describing the mind and character of Lafayette Ronald Hubbard. I think her description of a narcissist is appropriate.</p>
<p>Here are several of her quotes from that book:</p>
<p>Quotes from the book, The Sociopath Next Door, by Martha Stout, PhD<br />
October 8, 2019 by alaughingsoul Leave a comment</p>
<p>“Sociopathy is the inability to process emotional experience, including love and caring, except when such experience can be calculated as a coldly intellectual task.”</p>
<p>“To admit that some people literally have no conscience is not technically the same as saying that some human beings are evil, but it is disturbingly close. And good people want very much not to believe in the personification of evil.”</p>
<p>“If, instead, you find yourself often pitying someone who consistently hurts you or other people, and who actively campaigns for your sympathy, the chances are close to 100 percent that you are dealing with a sociopath.”</p>
<p>“Sociopaths have no regard whatsoever for the social contract, but they do know how to use it to their advantage. And all in all, I am sure that if the devil existed, he would want us to feel very sorry for him.”</p>
<p>“Rather, the best clue is, of all things, the pity play. The most reliable sign, the most universal behavior of unscrupulous people is not directed, as one might imagine, at our fearfulness. It is, perversely, an appeal to our sympathy. ”</p>
<p>“And sociopaths are noted especially for their shallowness of emotion, the hollow and transient nature of any affectionate feelings they may claim to have, a certain breathtaking callousness. They have no trace of empathy and no genuine interest in bonding emotionally with a mate. Once the surface charm is scraped off, their marriages are loveless, one-sided, and almost always short-term. If a marriage partner has any value to the sociopath, it is because the partner is viewed as a possession, one that the sociopath may feel angry to lose, but never sad or accountable.”</p>
<p>“If all you had ever felt toward another person were the cold wish to “win,” how would you understand the meaning of love, of friendship, of caring? You would not understand. You would simply go on dominating, and denying, and feeling superior. Perhaps you would experience a little emptiness sometimes, a remote sense of dissatisfaction, but that is all.”</p>
<p>“As a counterpoint to sociopathy, the condition of narcissism is particularly interesting and instructive. Narcissism is, in a metaphorical sense, one half of what sociopathy is. Even clinical narcissists are able to feel most emotions are strongly as anyone else does, from guilt to sadness to desperate love and passion. The half that is missing is the crucial ability to understand what other people are feeling. Narcissism is a failure not of conscience but of empathy, which is the capacity to perceive emotions in others and so react to them appropriately. The poor narcissist cannot see past his own nose, emotionally speaking, and as with the Pillsbury Doughboy, any input from the outside will spring back as if nothing had happened. Unlike sociopaths, narcissists often are in psychological pain, and may sometimes seek psychotherapy. When a narcissist looks for help, one of the underlying issues is usually that, unbeknownst to him, he is alienating his relationships on account of his lack of empathy with others, and is feeling confused, abandoned, and lonely. He misses the people he loves, and is ill-equipped to get them back. Sociopaths, in contrast, do not care about other people, and so do not miss them when they are alienated or gone, except as one might regret the absence of a useful appliance that one has somehow lost.”</p>
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<p>Well, I guess he never stopped because he never started!</p>
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