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	Comments on: L. Ron Hubbard on Medicine, Doctors and Cures	</title>
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		By: Annie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Annie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2023 14:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am late to the game as usual but scientology (this cult does not warrant a capital letter because it is not something that deserves the recognition) has another quack in their midst Dr. Eric Berg. Here is a link. Read and roll your eyes at the utter drivel: https://drericbergscientology.com/  I just watched an interview by your friend Aaron Smith-Levin with his son which I see is a year old but this needs to become broader public knowledge somehow. Brave young man and well done to The Aftermath Foundation for helping him. Here is a link to it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsO_j9sSWXs&#038;ab_channel=GrowingUpInScientology]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am late to the game as usual but scientology (this cult does not warrant a capital letter because it is not something that deserves the recognition) has another quack in their midst Dr. Eric Berg. Here is a link. Read and roll your eyes at the utter drivel: <a href="https://drericbergscientology.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://drericbergscientology.com/</a>  I just watched an interview by your friend Aaron Smith-Levin with his son which I see is a year old but this needs to become broader public knowledge somehow. Brave young man and well done to The Aftermath Foundation for helping him. Here is a link to it: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsO_j9sSWXs&#038;ab_channel=GrowingUpInScientology" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsO_j9sSWXs&#038;ab_channel=GrowingUpInScientology</a></p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2022 04:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-on-medicine-doctors-and-cures/#comment-507263&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s it!  Thanks, Mike.  And what a terrific shot of you, by the way.  &quot;Young Mike&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-on-medicine-doctors-and-cures/#comment-507263">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it!  Thanks, Mike.  And what a terrific shot of you, by the way.  &#8220;Young Mike&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 13:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-on-medicine-doctors-and-cures/#comment-507218&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Jim Dincalci. The Medical Liaison Officer on the Apollo. I mention him in my book. He was banished to Madeira and we became good friends there. H3 took the photo of me that is in the cover…]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-on-medicine-doctors-and-cures/#comment-507218">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Jim Dincalci. The Medical Liaison Officer on the Apollo. I mention him in my book. He was banished to Madeira and we became good friends there. H3 took the photo of me that is in the cover…</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 04:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-on-medicine-doctors-and-cures/#comment-506961&quot;&gt;Mockingbird&lt;/a&gt;.

Right!  Now I&#039;m recalling that it was Kima Douglas who recounted how he fell off his Harley - broke some ribs, I think.  He was biking on some island...came back to the ship but refused all medical help...and was in severe pain and impossible to live with on the ship for months afterwards. This story is coming back to me now.  I suppose I could google it.  Pretty sure it was Kima Douglas along with her husband, his name started with a D (Demulci? Something like that)  who took care of him.  Now I&#039;m going to have to google it or it will bother me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-on-medicine-doctors-and-cures/#comment-506961">Mockingbird</a>.</p>
<p>Right!  Now I&#8217;m recalling that it was Kima Douglas who recounted how he fell off his Harley &#8211; broke some ribs, I think.  He was biking on some island&#8230;came back to the ship but refused all medical help&#8230;and was in severe pain and impossible to live with on the ship for months afterwards. This story is coming back to me now.  I suppose I could google it.  Pretty sure it was Kima Douglas along with her husband, his name started with a D (Demulci? Something like that)  who took care of him.  Now I&#8217;m going to have to google it or it will bother me.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-on-medicine-doctors-and-cures/#comment-507217</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 04:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-on-medicine-doctors-and-cures/#comment-507210&quot;&gt;Mockingbird&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you, Mockingbird, That&#039;s kind of you and appreciated.   Sometimes when I&#039;m puzzled by something, I can sometimes sort it  out for myself just by sharing it here - hopefully not boring all of you senseless in the process :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-on-medicine-doctors-and-cures/#comment-507210">Mockingbird</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you, Mockingbird, That&#8217;s kind of you and appreciated.   Sometimes when I&#8217;m puzzled by something, I can sometimes sort it  out for myself just by sharing it here &#8211; hopefully not boring all of you senseless in the process 🙂</p>
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		By: Mockingbird		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mockingbird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 01:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-on-medicine-doctors-and-cures/#comment-507103&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks.

I think it&#039;s helpful for us to share our personal experiences with Scientology and want to encourage you or anyone else who is comfortable and desires to do so to do it as much as you or they like.

I think it helps us to get the ideas out and even just figuring out how to say them helps our minds. Having the give and take of sharing ideas and getting feedback is frankly not allowed in Scientology but something we can benefit from outside of it.

You have added something to the many revealing statements on the subject and of course your own thoughts and life. Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-on-medicine-doctors-and-cures/#comment-507103">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s helpful for us to share our personal experiences with Scientology and want to encourage you or anyone else who is comfortable and desires to do so to do it as much as you or they like.</p>
<p>I think it helps us to get the ideas out and even just figuring out how to say them helps our minds. Having the give and take of sharing ideas and getting feedback is frankly not allowed in Scientology but something we can benefit from outside of it.</p>
<p>You have added something to the many revealing statements on the subject and of course your own thoughts and life. Thank you.</p>
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		By: valboski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[valboski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2022 14:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-on-medicine-doctors-and-cures/#comment-506976&quot;&gt;Alcoboy&lt;/a&gt;.

Bueller ................?]]></description>
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<p>Bueller &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.?</p>
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		By: Linear13		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Linear13]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2022 05:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-on-medicine-doctors-and-cures/#comment-507012&quot;&gt;Jason Horvatic&lt;/a&gt;.

Congratulations!!!  Thank you (and your wife) for taking your family with you!  Welcome to the rest of your life may it be long and happy!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-on-medicine-doctors-and-cures/#comment-507012">Jason Horvatic</a>.</p>
<p>Congratulations!!!  Thank you (and your wife) for taking your family with you!  Welcome to the rest of your life may it be long and happy!</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2022 04:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-on-medicine-doctors-and-cures/#comment-506934&quot;&gt;Mary&lt;/a&gt;.

Motorcycle accident, I believe, Mary.]]></description>
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<p>Motorcycle accident, I believe, Mary.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2022 04:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-on-medicine-doctors-and-cures/#comment-506966&quot;&gt;Mockingbird&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve shared that back in the late 80s an OTVII assured me that, heavy smoker that he was, he would never get cancer because...he was OTVII.  Even his girlfriend, also a devout Scientologist, was continually pleading with him to give it up, or at least cut down.  Nope.  He was apparently convinced that OTVII effectively innoculated him against the danger of cancer from all of the toxins that are in cigarettes (forget even the nicotine - there are hundreds of toxic chemicals , a portion of them known carcinogens - in the cigarette paper alone).

I had an aunt by marriage who smoked her whole life.    She was the matriarch of my mother&#039;s side of the family.  She did not get cancer.  She died at 96 of natural causes. She was born a Catholic but was not devout.  She was a nurse by profession.  Smoked at least a pack a day.
 BUT  she ATE extraordinarily well.  She never ate junk.  Never.  She ate plenty of fresh fruits, green vegetables, salad greens, hardly any refined sugar, a little olive oil, a little wine, a little pasta.  Mediterranean diet, they call it today.  She was a comfortably well off widow with no children, sisters with whom she was close, lots of nieces and nephews and their children  with whom she was close. She retired from nursing, traveled extensively all over the world,  pretty much did whatever she wanted.  She very much had a comfortable, financially secure life even without a husband (she and my uncle had not been happily married anyway and he died leaving her plenty of money).  In brief she lived from the age of 46 to 96 a very comfortable, interesting, stress free life including the best food and medical care for whatever small ailments she might have had now and then.  So here&#039;s someone who smoked for 70 odd years and refused to give it up and yet didn&#039;t get cancer. 

 I&#039;d say she was an exception, possibly one of the few smokers I&#039;ve known who did not get cancer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/l-ron-hubbard-on-medicine-doctors-and-cures/#comment-506966">Mockingbird</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve shared that back in the late 80s an OTVII assured me that, heavy smoker that he was, he would never get cancer because&#8230;he was OTVII.  Even his girlfriend, also a devout Scientologist, was continually pleading with him to give it up, or at least cut down.  Nope.  He was apparently convinced that OTVII effectively innoculated him against the danger of cancer from all of the toxins that are in cigarettes (forget even the nicotine &#8211; there are hundreds of toxic chemicals , a portion of them known carcinogens &#8211; in the cigarette paper alone).</p>
<p>I had an aunt by marriage who smoked her whole life.    She was the matriarch of my mother&#8217;s side of the family.  She did not get cancer.  She died at 96 of natural causes. She was born a Catholic but was not devout.  She was a nurse by profession.  Smoked at least a pack a day.<br />
 BUT  she ATE extraordinarily well.  She never ate junk.  Never.  She ate plenty of fresh fruits, green vegetables, salad greens, hardly any refined sugar, a little olive oil, a little wine, a little pasta.  Mediterranean diet, they call it today.  She was a comfortably well off widow with no children, sisters with whom she was close, lots of nieces and nephews and their children  with whom she was close. She retired from nursing, traveled extensively all over the world,  pretty much did whatever she wanted.  She very much had a comfortable, financially secure life even without a husband (she and my uncle had not been happily married anyway and he died leaving her plenty of money).  In brief she lived from the age of 46 to 96 a very comfortable, interesting, stress free life including the best food and medical care for whatever small ailments she might have had now and then.  So here&#8217;s someone who smoked for 70 odd years and refused to give it up and yet didn&#8217;t get cancer. </p>
<p> I&#8217;d say she was an exception, possibly one of the few smokers I&#8217;ve known who did not get cancer.</p>
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