Hi there. I knew an Erin Selle who got married and became Erin Stiner (sp?). She was in the Sea Org in LA and was married by 2005. Probably born around 1981. Do you know if she’s still in the church or not?

ach! that was the wrong erin. the real one was still in as of 2020 per mike’s blog. erin steiner married to jon steiner. so sorry. so we just still don’t know why she was called woodruff. i see an old list showing she lived in the same bldg. as Dan and Elizabeth Woodruff. I think Elizabeth is deceased but I have asked Chris Shelton if he knows more as he was listed there too. The father, at least on paper, seems to be Vincent P. Selle. He seems to be somewhere between Florida and Georgia. and nobody has said where Dan ended up. maybe with his brother…wherever that may be. (mission viejo possibly)

In reply to your last paragraph, yes it would. But considering they have been true believers all their lives, wouldn’t it be humane (a word the COS likes to throw around) if the church took proper care of their aged in a healthy way? Not holding my breath…

I also want to say to Mike, thank you for helping Rosemary and Mike B. to share their stories with us.

Lastly, I have worked in political and nonprofit organizations for years. What we find that helps to galvanize an effort is a Call to Action. Getting information out is one step but using your viewer/readers is the next step. Ask us to do something such as sign a petition or write letters to the IRS-congressional representatives or local governments. Between all the SPTV Channels you have 1000’s of viewers and their voices can be impactful! I donate regularly to The Aftermath Foundation and will continue to but would love to do even more.

So happy Rosemary was able to escape. Glad she is able to share her experience.

I wondered if Scientology were the payees for these people’s Social Security, food stamps, government benefits or pensions?

Jim Jones was being investigated by Congress because families of his cult members discovered that The People’s Temple were their relatives Social Security, welfare and Food Stamps payees. Taking some one’s government benefits and not using it for them is a federal crime.

Who ever is putting the elderly in private homes probably doesn’t have the certification or state license to run a care home. Stacking 9 ill older people in one bedroom sounds like, if nothing else, it violates buidling codes. Do they really have the ability to care properly for people with advanced dementia? Are they practising medicine with out a license?

Thank God Rosemary has a loving and devoted son . For many older cult members they were encouraged/coerced by the cult to sever all relationships with family, friends, co workers or anyone who criticized the cult. It may be decades since they were in touch w/family or family may have passed away . I can imagine they are alone in the world and have no one who cares about them.

Typical of cults that the members who slaved to make the organization rich and successful are tossed away when they become ill or aged.

There were a lot of older members from my former cult, who were found dead days after their passing, alone. If they owned their home it would have been mortaged to the teeth for cult recruitment activities or their property was left to the cult. Many people went into horrific debt for the cult but when the leader died, he was a multi millionaire.

It’s dreadful that the Scientologists would deny emergency medical care to a sick elderly woman because they didn’t want their secrets out. Sounds familar. I was suicidal. When the cult leader’s hench man found out, instead of doing what they could to help me, show some compassion , I was rejected, thrown out of the cult and shunned as evil. I was not spiritual enough for them. This was crushing. Many years later I was told by one of the leader’s assistants that it would have been very bad publicity if I had suceeded in killing myself. I was merely a liability, was less than nothing . So much got revealed,. The memory brings up rage.

Wouldn’t it be great to establish a foundation, outside of the cluches of COS, that could be guardians for these older cult members for their housing and medical care?

Rosemary got in as an adult. I think you are confusing her with the children born in. Many of which have been writing tell all books recently.

That is a most eloquent letter that you wrote. But I hope you will not be surprised to learn that McSavage will likely never read a word of it. He most likely has left instructions to some underling that any letter even remotely like the one you wrote should be immediately destroyed.

But do not despair over that. I forsee there is an excellent chance that even if he never reads your letter, it may well provide useful evidence in some future court proceedings – either criminal or civil or both – to help apply pressure to this criminal cult or to send McSavage or one of his underlings to prison for any number of criminal charges.

The letter is so well written that I can see it will very likely be read into the court proceedings in order to provide evidence for which this cult will have to pay. This may well include prison time for McSavage and some of his followers or huge civil damages for all the harm they have done to so many people.

So, please do not be unhappy if you do not get some kind of response. I truly believe your letter may well be used in some future court proceeding or may even be read by many people who have no idea of the depth of depravity to which this stinkin’ cult often sinks.

Please have faith that your letter will indeed do some good sometime in the future – either in a court proceeding or just as evidence that will help inform the general public just how evil this criminal cult really is.

Be happy in the knowledge that your letter will be recognized by thousands of people who will know that you speak the truth and your letter will have some positive effect in the dismantling of this crazy criminal cult.

Well done Rosemary!

P.S. People who have spent a lifetime in this cult are almost always educated in matters that favor the cult. But they are rarely educated to read and write English to the high level that you have displayed in this letter. I hope you will not be insulted if I ask you whether you had some help to polish this letter to the high degree of eloquence you seem to have achieved. There is nothing wrong with receiving some help from others. But would you be willing to disclose just how you came to write such a beautiful letter given the minimal amount of English education one gets in this cult? I’m sure that people will understand if you do not wish to disclose whether you received any help from anyone who collaborated with you to write this letter. But it wouldn’t change a thing. I’m just curious how you were able to produce such a beautiful letter given the shabby level of English education this cult usually gives its members/slaves. If you are not comfortable disclosing this info, by all means, just do not comment on this issue.