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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2018 16:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/life-is-so-much-better-since-i-left-scientology/#comment-205813&quot;&gt;Michael Silverman&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s OK, you are not the first person to do that.

And to be mistaken for someone because they are &quot;amazingly accurate&quot; is a high compliment! :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/life-is-so-much-better-since-i-left-scientology/#comment-205813">Michael Silverman</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s OK, you are not the first person to do that.</p>
<p>And to be mistaken for someone because they are &#8220;amazingly accurate&#8221; is a high compliment! 🙂</p>
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		By: Michael Silverman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Silverman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2018 15:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/life-is-so-much-better-since-i-left-scientology/#comment-205706&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

So true. My apologies. I incorrectly assumed that the post was from Mike Rinder. It is amazingly accurate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/life-is-so-much-better-since-i-left-scientology/#comment-205706">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>So true. My apologies. I incorrectly assumed that the post was from Mike Rinder. It is amazingly accurate.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2018 15:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/life-is-so-much-better-since-i-left-scientology/#comment-205463&quot;&gt;Michael Silverman&lt;/a&gt;.

There are plenty of &quot;Psychic Fairs&quot; occurring across the country. People gather together to discuss various paranormal and supernatural abilities to be approached, studied or attained. I don&#039;t have any of my own, but then I&#039;ve never attempted to develop any. I have seen others demonstrate such.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/life-is-so-much-better-since-i-left-scientology/#comment-205463">Michael Silverman</a>.</p>
<p>There are plenty of &#8220;Psychic Fairs&#8221; occurring across the country. People gather together to discuss various paranormal and supernatural abilities to be approached, studied or attained. I don&#8217;t have any of my own, but then I&#8217;ve never attempted to develop any. I have seen others demonstrate such.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2018 15:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/life-is-so-much-better-since-i-left-scientology/#comment-205680&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

Michael Silverman does not know Terra personally. He mistakenly addressed me because it was on my blog.

Scientology issues NO declare orders on anyone any more. By their own policy - &quot;if it isn&#039;t written it isn&#039;t true.&quot; 

Factually, in the last 5 years, nobody has been &quot;declared&quot; though certainly plenty of people have been disconnected from.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/life-is-so-much-better-since-i-left-scientology/#comment-205680">Cindy</a>.</p>
<p>Michael Silverman does not know Terra personally. He mistakenly addressed me because it was on my blog.</p>
<p>Scientology issues NO declare orders on anyone any more. By their own policy &#8211; &#8220;if it isn&#8217;t written it isn&#8217;t true.&#8221; </p>
<p>Factually, in the last 5 years, nobody has been &#8220;declared&#8221; though certainly plenty of people have been disconnected from.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull (37 years recovering)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull (37 years recovering)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2018 10:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/life-is-so-much-better-since-i-left-scientology/#comment-205500&quot;&gt;Gus Cox&lt;/a&gt;.

Strictly speaking, the CMO was as off-policy as it gets: Ron bypassing all seniors and micromanaging everything via his  minions.  Even HE should have realized that it would collapse the org, even all of SCN  to a single point.  Eternal emergency condition, which is coming home to roost, Davey Boy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/life-is-so-much-better-since-i-left-scientology/#comment-205500">Gus Cox</a>.</p>
<p>Strictly speaking, the CMO was as off-policy as it gets: Ron bypassing all seniors and micromanaging everything via his  minions.  Even HE should have realized that it would collapse the org, even all of SCN  to a single point.  Eternal emergency condition, which is coming home to roost, Davey Boy.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull (37 years recovering)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull (37 years recovering)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2018 10:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/life-is-so-much-better-since-i-left-scientology/#comment-205447&quot;&gt;gorillavee&lt;/a&gt;.

GorillaVee, I got curious, so checked: &quot;hiatuses &quot; was correct.  It&#039;s a mere right-click away, so I do it a lot.]]></description>
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<p>GorillaVee, I got curious, so checked: &#8220;hiatuses &#8221; was correct.  It&#8217;s a mere right-click away, so I do it a lot.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull (37 years recovering)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull (37 years recovering)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2018 10:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/life-is-so-much-better-since-i-left-scientology/#comment-205464&quot;&gt;Robster&lt;/a&gt;.

IMO,  EVERY dynamic got better after ditching SCN, So the greatest good was to disconnect from the suppression.  Funny that I didn&#039;t realize it at the time; I was just thinking about my own concerns and the irrationality I was experiencing locally(at Flag).  Sadly, while I was in, I couldn&#039;t perceive all the lies and false stats for the Doubt formula.  All I had, and needed, was Flag&#039;s inability to take care of its own.  If The &quot;Mecca&quot; couldn&#039;t take care of itself, for whatever reason, how could SCN range further afield and succeed?


FWIW, we&#039;re now part of a 3rd Dynamic that IS doing good in the real world, not just paying lip service to lofty goals put out there merely to look reasonable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/life-is-so-much-better-since-i-left-scientology/#comment-205464">Robster</a>.</p>
<p>IMO,  EVERY dynamic got better after ditching SCN, So the greatest good was to disconnect from the suppression.  Funny that I didn&#8217;t realize it at the time; I was just thinking about my own concerns and the irrationality I was experiencing locally(at Flag).  Sadly, while I was in, I couldn&#8217;t perceive all the lies and false stats for the Doubt formula.  All I had, and needed, was Flag&#8217;s inability to take care of its own.  If The &#8220;Mecca&#8221; couldn&#8217;t take care of itself, for whatever reason, how could SCN range further afield and succeed?</p>
<p>FWIW, we&#8217;re now part of a 3rd Dynamic that IS doing good in the real world, not just paying lip service to lofty goals put out there merely to look reasonable.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2018 01:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/life-is-so-much-better-since-i-left-scientology/#comment-205504&quot;&gt;Cat W.&lt;/a&gt;.

Cat I&#039;ve wondered the same, especially when Michael Silverman called Terra Cognita &quot;Mike&quot; as though he knows the person personally.  That is enough to have OSA put two and two together to see who it is.  My guess is that Terra Cognita is known about at the church and is declared, but people are told on a &quot;need to know&quot; basis only.  That way if Terra C is/was an opinion leader in Scn, they can save themselves embarrassment by posting an SP Declare for all to see on this person.  It would run the risk of others getting out to follow him.  And nowadays the &quot;need to know basis&quot; is that the &quot;SP&quot; themselves don&#039;t need to know they are SP&#039;s, so they don&#039;t tell you.  I guess the only way to really find out is if you go into your old org and see if yo get routed to the MAA immediately, or kicked out immediately.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/life-is-so-much-better-since-i-left-scientology/#comment-205504">Cat W.</a>.</p>
<p>Cat I&#8217;ve wondered the same, especially when Michael Silverman called Terra Cognita &#8220;Mike&#8221; as though he knows the person personally.  That is enough to have OSA put two and two together to see who it is.  My guess is that Terra Cognita is known about at the church and is declared, but people are told on a &#8220;need to know&#8221; basis only.  That way if Terra C is/was an opinion leader in Scn, they can save themselves embarrassment by posting an SP Declare for all to see on this person.  It would run the risk of others getting out to follow him.  And nowadays the &#8220;need to know basis&#8221; is that the &#8220;SP&#8221; themselves don&#8217;t need to know they are SP&#8217;s, so they don&#8217;t tell you.  I guess the only way to really find out is if you go into your old org and see if yo get routed to the MAA immediately, or kicked out immediately.</p>
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		By: jim		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2018 19:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/life-is-so-much-better-since-i-left-scientology/#comment-205602&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

Much to what you said there, Richard.]]></description>
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<p>Much to what you said there, Richard.</p>
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		By: Michieux		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michieux]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2018 17:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interestingly, much of what you liked about your time in scientology during those early years sounds very much like what someone once told me about his membership in another &quot;iffy&quot; group: Amway.

He had tried to get me to join after I had been made redundant for the second time in my working life. But I&#039;d already become aware of how this group operated and showed him much of the negative material I&#039;d gathered regarding Amway. When pressed on why he remained a member, he explained that it was mostly about the social aspects of membership.

I think that the warm embrace of these types of groups, seemingly happy, smiley people welcoming the &quot;prospect&quot; with open arms and the promise of incredible wealth and a fantastic new set of &quot;friends&quot; if they join, exerts a strong emotional pull on most people, let alone vulnerable men and women who are socially awkward and lonely.

&quot;Pie in the sky&quot;, indeed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly, much of what you liked about your time in scientology during those early years sounds very much like what someone once told me about his membership in another &#8220;iffy&#8221; group: Amway.</p>
<p>He had tried to get me to join after I had been made redundant for the second time in my working life. But I&#8217;d already become aware of how this group operated and showed him much of the negative material I&#8217;d gathered regarding Amway. When pressed on why he remained a member, he explained that it was mostly about the social aspects of membership.</p>
<p>I think that the warm embrace of these types of groups, seemingly happy, smiley people welcoming the &#8220;prospect&#8221; with open arms and the promise of incredible wealth and a fantastic new set of &#8220;friends&#8221; if they join, exerts a strong emotional pull on most people, let alone vulnerable men and women who are socially awkward and lonely.</p>
<p>&#8220;Pie in the sky&#8221;, indeed.</p>
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