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		By: packers and movers hyderabad		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lying-and-fundamentalist-scientology/#comment-31204</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[packers and movers hyderabad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2014 05:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[With this blog you really took  attention to the points that we never thought about, you provides good information in your post, let me tell you, very interesting information your are having in your post, this is what I am looking for. Thanks &#038; Regards.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With this blog you really took  attention to the points that we never thought about, you provides good information in your post, let me tell you, very interesting information your are having in your post, this is what I am looking for. Thanks &amp; Regards.</p>
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		By: banon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jan 2014 22:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[After reading your recently submitted text messages in the Monique case, it is so nice to compare them to your wonderfully articulate postings here.  I imagine Dear Leader must ask repeatedly for definitions of some of your more colorful adjectives.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading your recently submitted text messages in the Monique case, it is so nice to compare them to your wonderfully articulate postings here.  I imagine Dear Leader must ask repeatedly for definitions of some of your more colorful adjectives.</p>
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		By: Valerie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Valerie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jan 2014 17:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What a great thing to come back to after a vacation.  Wow!  I&#039;m so intimidated right now I could roll on the floor laughing.  I bet you felt the same way too.  Such great comedic writing.  OTVIIIisgrrr8t has been officially put out of a job because there is no way he can write satire that can top that.

All the points have been addressed, but I must say, those several millions of dedicated Scientologists are only a delusion -- or body thetans.

LRH won&#039;t approve or forgive you?  

Aw gees, now you&#039;re going to have to start praying or something.

Real people out here have your back against that fake army of several million.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great thing to come back to after a vacation.  Wow!  I&#8217;m so intimidated right now I could roll on the floor laughing.  I bet you felt the same way too.  Such great comedic writing.  OTVIIIisgrrr8t has been officially put out of a job because there is no way he can write satire that can top that.</p>
<p>All the points have been addressed, but I must say, those several millions of dedicated Scientologists are only a delusion &#8212; or body thetans.</p>
<p>LRH won&#8217;t approve or forgive you?  </p>
<p>Aw gees, now you&#8217;re going to have to start praying or something.</p>
<p>Real people out here have your back against that fake army of several million.</p>
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		By: Jane Doe		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lying-and-fundamentalist-scientology/#comment-30623</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jan 2014 04:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lying-and-fundamentalist-scientology/#comment-30279&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

+1]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lying-and-fundamentalist-scientology/#comment-30279">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
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		By: Gayle aka TroubleShooter		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lying-and-fundamentalist-scientology/#comment-30521</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jan 2014 11:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[hmmmmm,  first impression was that cob dicktated this letter on New Years right after he saw the numbers come in on event attendance.  

If that&#039;s not the case the second thought I have is that the interloper is just about to pop out of his own head and see what a quisling he&#039;s been.  One or two more incidents experienced inside the mind-f*** and this boy&#039;s about to realize that he&#039;s nobody, everybody is a no-body inside the cob mob and anyone who IS has left, disappreared or has long since given up their ability and duty to observe what they observe and comment on what they have observed and stand by those observations...

Either way, the letter was manifest of the death throes one can expect as life drains out of the organism cob has created.  

Happy New Year Mike.  From one of the millions of friends that you have discovered you have since you disentangled yourself from cobs web and shared your story on the worldwideweb.  

love, gayle]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmmmm,  first impression was that cob dicktated this letter on New Years right after he saw the numbers come in on event attendance.  </p>
<p>If that&#8217;s not the case the second thought I have is that the interloper is just about to pop out of his own head and see what a quisling he&#8217;s been.  One or two more incidents experienced inside the mind-f*** and this boy&#8217;s about to realize that he&#8217;s nobody, everybody is a no-body inside the cob mob and anyone who IS has left, disappreared or has long since given up their ability and duty to observe what they observe and comment on what they have observed and stand by those observations&#8230;</p>
<p>Either way, the letter was manifest of the death throes one can expect as life drains out of the organism cob has created.  </p>
<p>Happy New Year Mike.  From one of the millions of friends that you have discovered you have since you disentangled yourself from cobs web and shared your story on the worldwideweb.  </p>
<p>love, gayle</p>
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		By: Pitz (@spiv_chavo)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lying-and-fundamentalist-scientology/#comment-30506</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jan 2014 04:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lying-and-fundamentalist-scientology/#comment-30098&quot;&gt;davefagen&lt;/a&gt;.

Dave Fagen

Lying while you think you are telling the truth, isn&#039;t that &quot;delusional?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lying-and-fundamentalist-scientology/#comment-30098">davefagen</a>.</p>
<p>Dave Fagen</p>
<p>Lying while you think you are telling the truth, isn&#8217;t that &#8220;delusional?&#8221;</p>
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		By: Jethro Bodine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lying-and-fundamentalist-scientology/#comment-30413</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jan 2014 04:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lying-and-fundamentalist-scientology/#comment-30295&quot;&gt;Margaret&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, for one thing, he lied about the number of times he was married to a reporter. There is a video of this on youtube (don&#039;t have the link handy). LRH&#039;s military history is much dispusted, and probably for good reason, although a lot of what was written about it was by the C of S.

I also took a brief look at what you wrote-up, and you seem to infer a lot of things based on little evidence. For instance, you seem to infer that his &quot;actinic conjunctivitis&quot; and that this was due to combat. There&#039;s just no evidence it was due to combat. However, I can&#039;t argue that it wasn&#039;t caused by combat either. I think the only person who really knows what happened to LRH during the war is dead now. A lot of what you believe depends on the validity of the records, and I certainly wouldn&#039;t put much faith in any documents the C of S presents, due to their long history of lying.

Hubbard said he thought Scientology should be free, yet he also wrote a policy which stated &quot;Free Service Equals Free Fall&quot;. Scientology was never intended to be delivered for free. It&#039;s just not set up that way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lying-and-fundamentalist-scientology/#comment-30295">Margaret</a>.</p>
<p>Well, for one thing, he lied about the number of times he was married to a reporter. There is a video of this on youtube (don&#8217;t have the link handy). LRH&#8217;s military history is much dispusted, and probably for good reason, although a lot of what was written about it was by the C of S.</p>
<p>I also took a brief look at what you wrote-up, and you seem to infer a lot of things based on little evidence. For instance, you seem to infer that his &#8220;actinic conjunctivitis&#8221; and that this was due to combat. There&#8217;s just no evidence it was due to combat. However, I can&#8217;t argue that it wasn&#8217;t caused by combat either. I think the only person who really knows what happened to LRH during the war is dead now. A lot of what you believe depends on the validity of the records, and I certainly wouldn&#8217;t put much faith in any documents the C of S presents, due to their long history of lying.</p>
<p>Hubbard said he thought Scientology should be free, yet he also wrote a policy which stated &#8220;Free Service Equals Free Fall&#8221;. Scientology was never intended to be delivered for free. It&#8217;s just not set up that way.</p>
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		By: NeverClear		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Dec 2013 19:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lying-and-fundamentalist-scientology/#comment-30159&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Jihadism didn&#039;t just develop overnight, it evolved into what is today over generations.  It is a good analogy of what can happen if fundamentalism is left alone to stew in its radicalism.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lying-and-fundamentalist-scientology/#comment-30159">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Jihadism didn&#8217;t just develop overnight, it evolved into what is today over generations.  It is a good analogy of what can happen if fundamentalism is left alone to stew in its radicalism.</p>
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		By: Tim-S		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim-S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Dec 2013 18:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lying-and-fundamentalist-scientology/#comment-30191&quot;&gt;Tony DePhillips&lt;/a&gt;.

I think the photo is appropriate to the content.  It may be shocking but so is what the CoS does behind the scenes.  It is every bit as corrupt and radical as other fundamentalists in other radical religions. 

When the path of the radical CoS is examined over a period of time there is a disturbing trend.  The antisocial and downright criminal traits and actions are nothing new but more of their followers are supportive of these actions and justify them to themselves and others. This clearly shows movement in the ethical decline and acceptability of antisocial and criminal actions within a larger sphere of the group.  What level of criminality will be acceptable to them tomorrow?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lying-and-fundamentalist-scientology/#comment-30191">Tony DePhillips</a>.</p>
<p>I think the photo is appropriate to the content.  It may be shocking but so is what the CoS does behind the scenes.  It is every bit as corrupt and radical as other fundamentalists in other radical religions. </p>
<p>When the path of the radical CoS is examined over a period of time there is a disturbing trend.  The antisocial and downright criminal traits and actions are nothing new but more of their followers are supportive of these actions and justify them to themselves and others. This clearly shows movement in the ethical decline and acceptability of antisocial and criminal actions within a larger sphere of the group.  What level of criminality will be acceptable to them tomorrow?</p>
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		By: Victoria		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lying-and-fundamentalist-scientology/#comment-30356</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Victoria]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Dec 2013 16:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lying-and-fundamentalist-scientology/#comment-30231&quot;&gt;Zana&lt;/a&gt;.

The lying starts right away and only gets worse. I was lying before I even finished the comm course. At least at that point I was just blindly repeating the lies I had been told.
I lied whenI joined staff and started selling books, many of them I had not read myself. I passed on lies about pricing, and ep&#039;s later as an FSM. By the time DM took over and every step on the bridge had become painful and impossible, I found myself unwilling to bring new people in based on what was happening with me and many friends I just didn&#039;t feel right putting someone new through it all. Justifying that only an already in Scientologist would be willing or able to weather or understand the current travails.
As things continued to get worse instead of better I had to eventually ask myself why I was putting myself through troubles I wouldn&#039;t wish on a perfect stranger. What a mess.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lying-and-fundamentalist-scientology/#comment-30231">Zana</a>.</p>
<p>The lying starts right away and only gets worse. I was lying before I even finished the comm course. At least at that point I was just blindly repeating the lies I had been told.<br />
I lied whenI joined staff and started selling books, many of them I had not read myself. I passed on lies about pricing, and ep&#8217;s later as an FSM. By the time DM took over and every step on the bridge had become painful and impossible, I found myself unwilling to bring new people in based on what was happening with me and many friends I just didn&#8217;t feel right putting someone new through it all. Justifying that only an already in Scientologist would be willing or able to weather or understand the current travails.<br />
As things continued to get worse instead of better I had to eventually ask myself why I was putting myself through troubles I wouldn&#8217;t wish on a perfect stranger. What a mess.</p>
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