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		By: Jimmy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2021 03:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mad-hatter-john-mappin-still-raving/#comment-423757&quot;&gt;peter&lt;/a&gt;.

I also recognized the connection to q-anon. So many crazy conspiracy theories and cults jive with Q beliefs. Trump not only managed to make himself president, he&#039;s a godlike figure to some people]]></description>
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<p>I also recognized the connection to q-anon. So many crazy conspiracy theories and cults jive with Q beliefs. Trump not only managed to make himself president, he&#8217;s a godlike figure to some people</p>
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		By: Real		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Real]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2021 20:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mad-hatter-john-mappin-still-raving/#comment-424213&quot;&gt;Colleen&lt;/a&gt;.

Exactly.  Only changing parties brought out the Fake News harpies]]></description>
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<p>Exactly.  Only changing parties brought out the Fake News harpies</p>
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		By: Colleen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Colleen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2021 14:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mad-hatter-john-mappin-still-raving/#comment-423384&quot;&gt;Real&lt;/a&gt;.

Bingo because trumps core message was exactly the same then as now.]]></description>
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<p>Bingo because trumps core message was exactly the same then as now.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2021 06:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mad-hatter-john-mappin-still-raving/#comment-424050&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Sorry for the Off Topic personal rant, Mike.  If you want to delete it I&#039;ll understand.  

As regards this clown and his Tintagel Castle Motel, I&#039;ve read enough reviews of this place on Trip Advisor to know that people are drawn to it by the King Arthur mystique but almost immediately upon checking in their really turned off by the rooms and the quality of service. 

With no intention to be funny I will share now that I&#039;m beginning to entertain the distinct possiblity that Scientologists, many of them, are collectively going batty.  No really, I&#039;m not being funny.   I do mean the actual losing their of their grip on reality, as individuals and as a group, and what might well be causing this slide into permanent delusion are the realizations they&#039;ve been experiencing due to Covid - realizations about the Scientology&#039;s actual scene that are just too, too painful - possibly like the Q followers who just cannot digest that TRump lost the election.

Maybe these Scientologists are twisting and turning and grasping at anything - ANYTHING - to not have to face the awful, inevitable truth - that they&#039;ve been lied to for years, that Scientology is not only NOT expanding, but contracting severely, and that the name L. Ron Hubbard is mud.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mad-hatter-john-mappin-still-raving/#comment-424050">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Sorry for the Off Topic personal rant, Mike.  If you want to delete it I&#8217;ll understand.  </p>
<p>As regards this clown and his Tintagel Castle Motel, I&#8217;ve read enough reviews of this place on Trip Advisor to know that people are drawn to it by the King Arthur mystique but almost immediately upon checking in their really turned off by the rooms and the quality of service. </p>
<p>With no intention to be funny I will share now that I&#8217;m beginning to entertain the distinct possiblity that Scientologists, many of them, are collectively going batty.  No really, I&#8217;m not being funny.   I do mean the actual losing their of their grip on reality, as individuals and as a group, and what might well be causing this slide into permanent delusion are the realizations they&#8217;ve been experiencing due to Covid &#8211; realizations about the Scientology&#8217;s actual scene that are just too, too painful &#8211; possibly like the Q followers who just cannot digest that TRump lost the election.</p>
<p>Maybe these Scientologists are twisting and turning and grasping at anything &#8211; ANYTHING &#8211; to not have to face the awful, inevitable truth &#8211; that they&#8217;ve been lied to for years, that Scientology is not only NOT expanding, but contracting severely, and that the name L. Ron Hubbard is mud.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2021 05:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mad-hatter-john-mappin-still-raving/#comment-423583&quot;&gt;OmegaPaladin&lt;/a&gt;.

A long time still in who was an auditor and course supervisor of mine when I was in is full on QAnon.  Together with spouse, full on Trump and full frontal Q and it can only be deduced that together they will be enthusiastic Truth Social users.  I&#039;m still trying to wrap my mental mitts around how this staff member, who might still be on staff at another org - someone so trained, so seemingly sane back in the day, how someone like this could morph into a QAnon believer. Oh, and there&#039;s no doubt that this is the case although I won&#039;t post here how I absolutely know.  In any event... It blows my mind.  Perhaps it shouldn&#039;t; it probably shouldn&#039;t. But it really, really  does.  This person AUDITED me. 
 Trained me.  Wow.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mad-hatter-john-mappin-still-raving/#comment-423583">OmegaPaladin</a>.</p>
<p>A long time still in who was an auditor and course supervisor of mine when I was in is full on QAnon.  Together with spouse, full on Trump and full frontal Q and it can only be deduced that together they will be enthusiastic Truth Social users.  I&#8217;m still trying to wrap my mental mitts around how this staff member, who might still be on staff at another org &#8211; someone so trained, so seemingly sane back in the day, how someone like this could morph into a QAnon believer. Oh, and there&#8217;s no doubt that this is the case although I won&#8217;t post here how I absolutely know.  In any event&#8230; It blows my mind.  Perhaps it shouldn&#8217;t; it probably shouldn&#8217;t. But it really, really  does.  This person AUDITED me.<br />
 Trained me.  Wow.</p>
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		By: X Team Xenu 75 to 03		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[X Team Xenu 75 to 03]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2021 00:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mad-hatter-john-mappin-still-raving/#comment-423484&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

If you google &quot;Miscavige steroids&quot; with quote marks, you will get all the comments about this in past chat sites.  

If you google around, there are some excellent old chats on the old ARS chat site.   And ExScn and Clambake.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mad-hatter-john-mappin-still-raving/#comment-423484">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>If you google &#8220;Miscavige steroids&#8221; with quote marks, you will get all the comments about this in past chat sites.  </p>
<p>If you google around, there are some excellent old chats on the old ARS chat site.   And ExScn and Clambake.</p>
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		By: X Team Xenu 75 to -3.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[X Team Xenu 75 to -3.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2021 00:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mad-hatter-john-mappin-still-raving/#comment-423476&quot;&gt;J A Reyes&lt;/a&gt;.

Naw, I would have bought the theory.   I did my 27 year fool&#039;s stint in Sea Org and never reached the Xenu &quot;body-thetans&quot; exorcism OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 steps.

But, soon as I got out, read the OT 3 Xenu story theory about Xenu dumping &quot;body-thetans&quot; onto earth, and the &quot;Body-thetans&quot; attaching themselves to all humans today, and leaking the R6 implants which Xenu implanted into the minds of all the zillions of &quot;body-thetans&quot; which are just surplus souls floating all over earth without bodies.   And putting two and two together, it made sense and would not have caused me personally to quit on the beliefs alone.

I bought the soul idea.  Scientology Hubbard think we are the soul, at our core.   We have past lives trauma memories and we &quot;Clear&quot; those trauma memories from effecting us on the first half of the Hubbard long pseudo-therapy levels of Scientology.   (I got to Clear, then backtracked to step 0, thinking my Clear attainment was bogus and not in truth fully achieved, from step 0 I never progressed when I finally quit Scientology, LOL).

But after Clear, you are racing the next 2 levels to get to the exorcism levels at the 3rd level above Clear, called OT 3, and there you get taught the Xenu story, which explains why you need to do a whole bunch of exorcism now.

Xenu dumped the surplus bodielss souls, &quot;body-thetans&quot; onto earth, and that was 75 million years ago, and now all humans today are coated/infested with huge huge amounts of surplus souls.

So it takes five exorcism levels, OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 to rid yourself of these surplus souls.

I didn&#039;t stay for the exorcism levels, but knowing how slow I went on the lower levels before and up to Clear, I would have been easily the rest of my life never completing all the exorcism.   

But theoretically it does make sense to a well informed and soul/souls believing person.

Years ago, I heard one of the modern atheist famous persons say that once you believe in the soul, then all sorts of oddball sets of ideas can bloom from that.

I believe that, and I returned to atheism, and don&#039;t believe in the soul, otherwise I could quite adequately defend the soul exorcism activities of Scientology and stick to the Hubbard theory.

But the key building block, a transmigrating soul, is bogus to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mad-hatter-john-mappin-still-raving/#comment-423476">J A Reyes</a>.</p>
<p>Naw, I would have bought the theory.   I did my 27 year fool&#8217;s stint in Sea Org and never reached the Xenu &#8220;body-thetans&#8221; exorcism OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 steps.</p>
<p>But, soon as I got out, read the OT 3 Xenu story theory about Xenu dumping &#8220;body-thetans&#8221; onto earth, and the &#8220;Body-thetans&#8221; attaching themselves to all humans today, and leaking the R6 implants which Xenu implanted into the minds of all the zillions of &#8220;body-thetans&#8221; which are just surplus souls floating all over earth without bodies.   And putting two and two together, it made sense and would not have caused me personally to quit on the beliefs alone.</p>
<p>I bought the soul idea.  Scientology Hubbard think we are the soul, at our core.   We have past lives trauma memories and we &#8220;Clear&#8221; those trauma memories from effecting us on the first half of the Hubbard long pseudo-therapy levels of Scientology.   (I got to Clear, then backtracked to step 0, thinking my Clear attainment was bogus and not in truth fully achieved, from step 0 I never progressed when I finally quit Scientology, LOL).</p>
<p>But after Clear, you are racing the next 2 levels to get to the exorcism levels at the 3rd level above Clear, called OT 3, and there you get taught the Xenu story, which explains why you need to do a whole bunch of exorcism now.</p>
<p>Xenu dumped the surplus bodielss souls, &#8220;body-thetans&#8221; onto earth, and that was 75 million years ago, and now all humans today are coated/infested with huge huge amounts of surplus souls.</p>
<p>So it takes five exorcism levels, OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 to rid yourself of these surplus souls.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t stay for the exorcism levels, but knowing how slow I went on the lower levels before and up to Clear, I would have been easily the rest of my life never completing all the exorcism.   </p>
<p>But theoretically it does make sense to a well informed and soul/souls believing person.</p>
<p>Years ago, I heard one of the modern atheist famous persons say that once you believe in the soul, then all sorts of oddball sets of ideas can bloom from that.</p>
<p>I believe that, and I returned to atheism, and don&#8217;t believe in the soul, otherwise I could quite adequately defend the soul exorcism activities of Scientology and stick to the Hubbard theory.</p>
<p>But the key building block, a transmigrating soul, is bogus to me.</p>
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		By: X Team Xenu chuckbeatty 75 to 03		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[X Team Xenu chuckbeatty 75 to 03]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2021 00:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mad-hatter-john-mappin-still-raving/#comment-423467&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

yes, I see, you are right.  

Because Xenu ain&#039;t real (except in their minds he&#039;s real since Hubbard said he was real) and because Miscavige is real, you are in reality are really right.

 Miscavige didn&#039;t  and doesn&#039;t have some of Hubbard&#039;s con man charm and garrulousness so Miscavige is really the biggest SP, agreed.  

Hubbard might have throttled back on the Captain Bligh had he still been at the helm, once or twice more often than Miscavige who doesn&#039;t know about throttling back.  Only throttling and punching and spitting on scapegoat subordinates.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mad-hatter-john-mappin-still-raving/#comment-423467">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>yes, I see, you are right.  </p>
<p>Because Xenu ain&#8217;t real (except in their minds he&#8217;s real since Hubbard said he was real) and because Miscavige is real, you are in reality are really right.</p>
<p> Miscavige didn&#8217;t  and doesn&#8217;t have some of Hubbard&#8217;s con man charm and garrulousness so Miscavige is really the biggest SP, agreed.  </p>
<p>Hubbard might have throttled back on the Captain Bligh had he still been at the helm, once or twice more often than Miscavige who doesn&#8217;t know about throttling back.  Only throttling and punching and spitting on scapegoat subordinates.</p>
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		By: Real		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Real]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2021 21:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mad-hatter-john-mappin-still-raving/#comment-423481&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

No need to wake up Jere.  It was known at the beginning.  The lawmakers KNEW it would create a HUGE organized crime problem just as prohibition (the war on drinking) did.  That would make for huge increases in public spending, police, etc. And result in huge prison populations, laws to confiscate private property, human rights violations and murder of law abiding citizens. The Dems and Repubs LOVE it in congress.  

Senator Biden created a law in 1983 that allows the government unlimited authority to seize assets from private citizens with NO CHARGES AND NO TRIAL.  It was called The Comprehensive Forfeiture Act. Unbelievable that ANYONE with more than two brain cells would give that criminal MORE power as PotUS.]]></description>
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<p>No need to wake up Jere.  It was known at the beginning.  The lawmakers KNEW it would create a HUGE organized crime problem just as prohibition (the war on drinking) did.  That would make for huge increases in public spending, police, etc. And result in huge prison populations, laws to confiscate private property, human rights violations and murder of law abiding citizens. The Dems and Repubs LOVE it in congress.  </p>
<p>Senator Biden created a law in 1983 that allows the government unlimited authority to seize assets from private citizens with NO CHARGES AND NO TRIAL.  It was called The Comprehensive Forfeiture Act. Unbelievable that ANYONE with more than two brain cells would give that criminal MORE power as PotUS.</p>
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		By: peter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2021 13:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mad as a Hatter, convicted fraudster, Q-Anonist, Scientologist and Trump disciple

Yes, his brand new Bentley is inconveniently parked outside the front door of his pebble-dashed  Victorian hotel overlooking Tintagel Castle ruins.

Private Registration number JM55 MAP, 4 litre engine, a vehicle owned by Mappin, the Chairman of DGB, a Dutch Green Business Group, whose mission is to plant 1 billion trees to save the planet, the same length in years as the contract he signed as a Thetan Scientologist !!

He proudly stated:  “Those who solve the very practical and real challenges of man’s symbiosis and relationship with trees and whom additionally harness free market forces and the access to capital needed to rapidly accelerate the reforestation of earth, will not only resolve one of the last remaining barriers to our survival here, restoring balance to continued life on earth, but will act in great service to all life and to the Creator.”

“This is our endeavour.” 

Still raving.

Once you&#039;ve had the luxury of using a private helicopter to go to and from school, this is the outcome....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mad as a Hatter, convicted fraudster, Q-Anonist, Scientologist and Trump disciple</p>
<p>Yes, his brand new Bentley is inconveniently parked outside the front door of his pebble-dashed  Victorian hotel overlooking Tintagel Castle ruins.</p>
<p>Private Registration number JM55 MAP, 4 litre engine, a vehicle owned by Mappin, the Chairman of DGB, a Dutch Green Business Group, whose mission is to plant 1 billion trees to save the planet, the same length in years as the contract he signed as a Thetan Scientologist !!</p>
<p>He proudly stated:  “Those who solve the very practical and real challenges of man’s symbiosis and relationship with trees and whom additionally harness free market forces and the access to capital needed to rapidly accelerate the reforestation of earth, will not only resolve one of the last remaining barriers to our survival here, restoring balance to continued life on earth, but will act in great service to all life and to the Creator.”</p>
<p>“This is our endeavour.” </p>
<p>Still raving.</p>
<p>Once you&#8217;ve had the luxury of using a private helicopter to go to and from school, this is the outcome&#8230;.</p>
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