“Overbilling clients can constitute an example of breach of contract and result in fines, lawsuits, or prison time.Overbilling can also be a part of U.S. Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act schemes and other organized crime activities. Some individuals that have been convicted of overbilling were done so under the charge of mail fraud, or under the False Claims Act in the United States.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overbilling

Thanks Aquamarine. I was the youngest of 5 boys (BIG boys) so I learned to stand up for myself at a young age. That I found, didn’t sit well in El Con’s Sea Org environment of intimidation. I guess it would have worked better if I used it to bully others. If I were a sociopath like the Founder maybe I could have been a DM. Instead I accepted being busted for trying to protect people from the RPF or declare…

I don’t recall “outflow=inflow”. What does it mean and how does it work? If those questions can be answered then it should be pretty clear whether that equation belongs in the category called, “knowledge” or the category called “belief”.

But let us suppose I were to “outflow” twenty pounds of wheat berries onto barren soil. My “inflow” would be zero. If the soil weren’t completely barren my inflow would be better than zero. So off hand I think the outflow=inflow principle is just another HHSF (Hubbardarian, high-sounding fiction).

I think you missed my point. The fraudulent billing doesn’t matter because the whole bill is fraudulent. There is no legal action the cult can take against you if you don’t pay a freeloader debt. They can’t report you to a credit bureau, etc.

So they can put whatever they want on their little bill. You don’t have to pay it. No one can force you to pay it. And they cannot take action against you if you don’t pay it. That’s what I meant.

I mean, to ask, why you are out here running damage control for David Miscavige?

See? You knew where you stood. You knew your rights. Good for you.

“So, you can ignore all of the fraudulent billing that’s going on.”

Lay down and spread? Take it up the A$$? Wow! Al Capone died because of red tape. Instructions to not is? Honey I ain’t that kind of person. And what is up with you instructing someone to not is criminality? No, I am not going to ignore it even at your command. Makes me wonder WTF you are???

I like your Sea Org stories, John Locke. Sounds like you kicked ass back in the day.

Well I have a with hold to get off. I actually paid off my Freeloader debt. That was before I did some check sheets on legal rights. My Sea Org Org contract was null and void within weeks because THEY did not perform. I didn’t have a clue. The fraudulent billing, what can I say? If you don’t know your right you don’t have any? I’m cool, does not lessen their crime. Fraudulent billing is one thing Americans will not tolerate. I have all of my invoices and cancelled checks. Well, I have shared the information.

“A shack and a patch”. Lol, you nailed it, Ann. And you made me feel better. And, btw, I do have some Mediterranean in me to balance out the Yank thing, so I don’t wear mother hubbards. Speaking of which, here’s a little story: :

I was on the train once sitting next to 2 women, both very pretty, both early forties, both very glammed up in tight 7 jeans, Laboutins, plenty of what looked to me like real and costly jewelry, full make up, big hair, etc. Very attractive ,and, from all appearances and their accents, well off women from the Deep South. One was detailing to her companion the fact that an extremely wealthy sister in law of hers from New Hampshire had shown up at an important family gathering dressed in a mother hubbard. Hearing this, her friend gaped in amazement and dismay. Assured that it was true, she looked confused, shook her head and whispered, “Why, I wouldn’t sod my yard dressed like that!”

Different strokes, its all good, its all fun, and it makes life interesting, our differences.

And you’re a very sweet person, Ann. Nice that you stayed that way, despite all.

Hey Mike, sorry for all this derailment. Hope you and yours are having a wonderful time!