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		By: peggy2176il		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-media-madness/#comment-100051</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2015 12:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think that with the dwindling enrollment that all these people will have a beautiful mausoleum when they join LRH on Target 2, or 3 or where ever he floated off to........]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that with the dwindling enrollment that all these people will have a beautiful mausoleum when they join LRH on Target 2, or 3 or where ever he floated off to&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		By: Ac		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-media-madness/#comment-99811</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have an observation about their media machine.  3 days ago one of their Twitter pages that is blatantly a front has said  why didnt Alex Gibney request a viewing of a church to see what they are really like yet a few years ago when a UK journalist wanted to do a piece on the church because he wanted to do find out about auditing and experience what life was like in the church they said no we want nothing to do with it,  and in the end had to fly to another country in Europe to experience it in the freezone. What was funny the piece was part of a series of different religions rather then a bash the church program.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an observation about their media machine.  3 days ago one of their Twitter pages that is blatantly a front has said  why didnt Alex Gibney request a viewing of a church to see what they are really like yet a few years ago when a UK journalist wanted to do a piece on the church because he wanted to do find out about auditing and experience what life was like in the church they said no we want nothing to do with it,  and in the end had to fly to another country in Europe to experience it in the freezone. What was funny the piece was part of a series of different religions rather then a bash the church program.</p>
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		By: Jethro Bodine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-media-madness/#comment-99694</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2015 10:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-media-madness/#comment-99384&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

1) I knew a guy who declared BK after donating for his Ls at Flag. He declared BK because he couldn&#039;t keep up with the payments for the amount of money that all of the Ls cost. This was over twenty years ago.

2) I think televangelists are insulted with the $cientology comparison. They would never do something as tacky as a &quot;C-Note Sunday&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-media-madness/#comment-99384">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>1) I knew a guy who declared BK after donating for his Ls at Flag. He declared BK because he couldn&#8217;t keep up with the payments for the amount of money that all of the Ls cost. This was over twenty years ago.</p>
<p>2) I think televangelists are insulted with the $cientology comparison. They would never do something as tacky as a &#8220;C-Note Sunday&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Espiando		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-media-madness/#comment-99688</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2015 02:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-media-madness/#comment-99613&quot;&gt;John Locke&lt;/a&gt;.

Your aim is to stop abuses, which is a good aim.  It just isn&#039;t my aim.  My aim is to stop Scientology.  Its existence offends me as a scientist, as a gay man, as a military veteran, and as a human.  I don&#039;t care about the moral high ground.  I&#039;ll use any tactic available to reach my goal.  I&#039;m going to destroy them without sorrow before they have the chance to do the same to me.  If you believe in Hubbard&#039;s Tone Scale as written, you&#039;re my enemy.

It&#039;s just a matter of perspective, really.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-media-madness/#comment-99613">John Locke</a>.</p>
<p>Your aim is to stop abuses, which is a good aim.  It just isn&#8217;t my aim.  My aim is to stop Scientology.  Its existence offends me as a scientist, as a gay man, as a military veteran, and as a human.  I don&#8217;t care about the moral high ground.  I&#8217;ll use any tactic available to reach my goal.  I&#8217;m going to destroy them without sorrow before they have the chance to do the same to me.  If you believe in Hubbard&#8217;s Tone Scale as written, you&#8217;re my enemy.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just a matter of perspective, really.</p>
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		By: Ann B Watson		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-media-madness/#comment-99660</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2015 20:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-media-madness/#comment-99654&quot;&gt;rogerHornaday&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Roger Hornaday,Thank you for your suggestion.If I decide to ever post there I do see which way the wind may blow.Mike had a post where he talked about stopping abuse and real hurts within the cult.To be totally honest that is one of the reasons I decided to,post here.I needed to get out what had happened to me and also to many others who knew that Scientology also held the keys of abuse and pain : disconnection and total make-wrong.That is what I would like to see exposed.That is what haunts me still those events.I guess there will always be groups of those who feel their way is best.The trick for me is to walk my path amongst all the twists and turns of others and to know with a pure view that I may walk alone for a time but ahead of me are those who understand.I have to keep on and let others do their thing as long as they do not abuse or hurt in mind body or spirit others.OK going to go play with my16 yr old inside Siamese Cat Jade.She is always up for patting.XO Ann B.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-media-madness/#comment-99654">rogerHornaday</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Roger Hornaday,Thank you for your suggestion.If I decide to ever post there I do see which way the wind may blow.Mike had a post where he talked about stopping abuse and real hurts within the cult.To be totally honest that is one of the reasons I decided to,post here.I needed to get out what had happened to me and also to many others who knew that Scientology also held the keys of abuse and pain : disconnection and total make-wrong.That is what I would like to see exposed.That is what haunts me still those events.I guess there will always be groups of those who feel their way is best.The trick for me is to walk my path amongst all the twists and turns of others and to know with a pure view that I may walk alone for a time but ahead of me are those who understand.I have to keep on and let others do their thing as long as they do not abuse or hurt in mind body or spirit others.OK going to go play with my16 yr old inside Siamese Cat Jade.She is always up for patting.XO Ann B.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-media-madness/#comment-99658</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2015 19:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-media-madness/#comment-99651&quot;&gt;Espiando&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, I don&#039;t think that anyone should be on anyone&#039;s &quot;destruction list.&quot; The aim should be to stop ABUSES. As far as I know,  Milestone 2 doesn&#039;t reg anyone in bankruptcy, and while they may practice disconnection themselves, they are not enforcing the breaking up of families or costing people jobs. It is not a crime to be misguided or even ill-intentioned (I am not saying they are ill-intentioned) unless it HURTS people. That they complain about me or you or anyone else or won&#039;t respond to fair criticism doesn&#039;t condemn them to &quot;destruction&quot;. How is doing so any better than Hubbard condemning 1.1&#039;s to be disposed of without sorrow?

If the people involved in Milestone 2 are not hurting others, then I have no beef with them. If they have a negative opinion of me for whatever reason, it hardly condemns them in my mind, and they have a LOT of company. 

I don&#039;t think one&#039;s beliefs are a good enough basis for condemnation, only one&#039;s acts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-media-madness/#comment-99651">Espiando</a>.</p>
<p>Well, I don&#8217;t think that anyone should be on anyone&#8217;s &#8220;destruction list.&#8221; The aim should be to stop ABUSES. As far as I know,  Milestone 2 doesn&#8217;t reg anyone in bankruptcy, and while they may practice disconnection themselves, they are not enforcing the breaking up of families or costing people jobs. It is not a crime to be misguided or even ill-intentioned (I am not saying they are ill-intentioned) unless it HURTS people. That they complain about me or you or anyone else or won&#8217;t respond to fair criticism doesn&#8217;t condemn them to &#8220;destruction&#8221;. How is doing so any better than Hubbard condemning 1.1&#8217;s to be disposed of without sorrow?</p>
<p>If the people involved in Milestone 2 are not hurting others, then I have no beef with them. If they have a negative opinion of me for whatever reason, it hardly condemns them in my mind, and they have a LOT of company. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think one&#8217;s beliefs are a good enough basis for condemnation, only one&#8217;s acts.</p>
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		By: rogerHornaday		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2015 18:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-media-madness/#comment-99637&quot;&gt;Ann B Watson&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Ann, I&#039;m wondering if you were to post a comment at M2 (as an experiment) in which you called for the extermination of all those critical of scientology and Hubbard, would you receive sympathetic responses?  I&#039;m guessing you might be gently admonished that such a radicle solution should only be considered as a last resort!  :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-media-madness/#comment-99637">Ann B Watson</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Ann, I&#8217;m wondering if you were to post a comment at M2 (as an experiment) in which you called for the extermination of all those critical of scientology and Hubbard, would you receive sympathetic responses?  I&#8217;m guessing you might be gently admonished that such a radicle solution should only be considered as a last resort!  🙂</p>
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		By: Espiando		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2015 18:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-media-madness/#comment-99613&quot;&gt;John Locke&lt;/a&gt;.

I hate to say that I told you guys about Milestone 2, but...well, let&#039;s face it, these guys turned vehemently on Marty (who didn&#039;t deserve any of what these little obergruppenfuehrers were dishing out), they turned on Mike when Mike turned out to be &quot;impure&quot;, and they refuse to deal with any criticism on the predication that it gets them involved in &quot;games conditions&quot;.

They are actually at the top of my destruction list, even above the cult.  They&#039;re out of the cult.  They have no excuse for their behavior.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-media-madness/#comment-99613">John Locke</a>.</p>
<p>I hate to say that I told you guys about Milestone 2, but&#8230;well, let&#8217;s face it, these guys turned vehemently on Marty (who didn&#8217;t deserve any of what these little obergruppenfuehrers were dishing out), they turned on Mike when Mike turned out to be &#8220;impure&#8221;, and they refuse to deal with any criticism on the predication that it gets them involved in &#8220;games conditions&#8221;.</p>
<p>They are actually at the top of my destruction list, even above the cult.  They&#8217;re out of the cult.  They have no excuse for their behavior.</p>
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		By: John Locke		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-media-madness/#comment-99613&quot;&gt;John Locke&lt;/a&gt;.

Correct roger.  Notice how he quickly devolved into wanting to get into a physical fight once he was trounced otherwise?  Those Taliban over at Milestone are totally psycho.  They ACTUALLY believe in that El Con trope that those opposed to Scamology &#038; El Con MUST have secret felonies that they could be prosecuted for?  If you take out their attacks on DM you could swear that your were listening to current CoS members jawing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-media-madness/#comment-99613">John Locke</a>.</p>
<p>Correct roger.  Notice how he quickly devolved into wanting to get into a physical fight once he was trounced otherwise?  Those Taliban over at Milestone are totally psycho.  They ACTUALLY believe in that El Con trope that those opposed to Scamology &amp; El Con MUST have secret felonies that they could be prosecuted for?  If you take out their attacks on DM you could swear that your were listening to current CoS members jawing.</p>
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		By: Ann B Watson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann B Watson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2015 15:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-media-madness/#comment-99623&quot;&gt;rogerHornaday&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Roger Hornaday, Thank you for the info on Milestone2.I had no idea what that was and no desire to visit it.If I do post with some one from there forearmed is forewarned.Always, Ann B.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-media-madness/#comment-99623">rogerHornaday</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Roger Hornaday, Thank you for the info on Milestone2.I had no idea what that was and no desire to visit it.If I do post with some one from there forearmed is forewarned.Always, Ann B.</p>
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