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		By: Jane Doe		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/monique-rathbun-sues-david-miscavige/#comment-13310</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane Doe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2013 06:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/monique-rathbun-sues-david-miscavige/#comment-13187&quot;&gt;Jane Doe&lt;/a&gt;.

Oops, and I forgot to mention Leah Remini, so there are three strong women who are bringing him down right now:  Debbie Cook, Leah Remini and Mosey.  What he resists he pulls in and they do him in!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/monique-rathbun-sues-david-miscavige/#comment-13187">Jane Doe</a>.</p>
<p>Oops, and I forgot to mention Leah Remini, so there are three strong women who are bringing him down right now:  Debbie Cook, Leah Remini and Mosey.  What he resists he pulls in and they do him in!</p>
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		By: burnedbutnotbitter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[burnedbutnotbitter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2013 04:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/monique-rathbun-sues-david-miscavige/#comment-13064&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes very interesting, there will be no confidentiality statement possible like with Debbie Cook and so many others as Mosey was never a member and certainly she has nothing to fear disconnection-wise, and is not interested in money, can&#039;t be bought....so they are screwed....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/monique-rathbun-sues-david-miscavige/#comment-13064">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Yes very interesting, there will be no confidentiality statement possible like with Debbie Cook and so many others as Mosey was never a member and certainly she has nothing to fear disconnection-wise, and is not interested in money, can&#8217;t be bought&#8230;.so they are screwed&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Moonshot		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Moonshot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2013 01:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/monique-rathbun-sues-david-miscavige/#comment-13134&quot;&gt;DMSCOHB&lt;/a&gt;.

You are simply wrong. They have ample evidence of the church&#039;s activities in this regard and will have no trouble tying the church to them. These wrongs have been committed, and by insitisting of on a jury trial the atttorny gaurantee&#039;s horrible PR for the church, and a great deal of sympathy for the victum. Juries have awarded alot more, for alot less evidence.
 
In the end, because Mosey was never connected to the church herself, and because she never publicly attacked the church, the RCS is in a very bad position with regard to this action. They will throw alot of money at it, but unlike so many other cases where they have counter sued and broken former church members, they have no such avenue against Mosey.

At this point, knowledgeable attorneys know all of the RCS&#039;s legal trickery. In the end, the RCS cannot win this one, and they will have to pay ALOT of money and for terms in no way advantageious to them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/monique-rathbun-sues-david-miscavige/#comment-13134">DMSCOHB</a>.</p>
<p>You are simply wrong. They have ample evidence of the church&#8217;s activities in this regard and will have no trouble tying the church to them. These wrongs have been committed, and by insitisting of on a jury trial the atttorny gaurantee&#8217;s horrible PR for the church, and a great deal of sympathy for the victum. Juries have awarded alot more, for alot less evidence.</p>
<p>In the end, because Mosey was never connected to the church herself, and because she never publicly attacked the church, the RCS is in a very bad position with regard to this action. They will throw alot of money at it, but unlike so many other cases where they have counter sued and broken former church members, they have no such avenue against Mosey.</p>
<p>At this point, knowledgeable attorneys know all of the RCS&#8217;s legal trickery. In the end, the RCS cannot win this one, and they will have to pay ALOT of money and for terms in no way advantageious to them.</p>
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		By: Bonnie List Kittelson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bonnie List Kittelson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 21:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I truly admire Mosey for her act of bravery.  I&#039;m sure she knows how dirty the Cof$ will fight in court.  I&#039;m also pretty sure that she and Marty have documentation on the harassment.  The obvious point is proving that slimy little rat of actually getting his hands dirty.  I hope they burn him to the stake like the evil witch he is.  I live in Clearwater and the paper stated that Cof$ has 34 new churches.  Really??  What constitutes a &quot;church&quot; of Scientology these days?  And I loved Paow&#039;s statement , &quot;.. The complaint is nothing more than a pathetic get rich scheme cooked by an unemployed blogger Marty Rathbun, a self-admitted suborner of perjury who is now resorting to using his wife in an attempt to extort money from the church.&quot;  First of all look at the pot calling the kettle black!  Paow is the biggest suborner of the truth if ever I saw one.  She wouldn&#039;t know the truth if it slapped her upside the head (I&#039;d be willing to do that!). Second, aren&#039;t they getting snippy, defensive and seriously critical?  Natter much, Karen?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I truly admire Mosey for her act of bravery.  I&#8217;m sure she knows how dirty the Cof$ will fight in court.  I&#8217;m also pretty sure that she and Marty have documentation on the harassment.  The obvious point is proving that slimy little rat of actually getting his hands dirty.  I hope they burn him to the stake like the evil witch he is.  I live in Clearwater and the paper stated that Cof$ has 34 new churches.  Really??  What constitutes a &#8220;church&#8221; of Scientology these days?  And I loved Paow&#8217;s statement , &#8220;.. The complaint is nothing more than a pathetic get rich scheme cooked by an unemployed blogger Marty Rathbun, a self-admitted suborner of perjury who is now resorting to using his wife in an attempt to extort money from the church.&#8221;  First of all look at the pot calling the kettle black!  Paow is the biggest suborner of the truth if ever I saw one.  She wouldn&#8217;t know the truth if it slapped her upside the head (I&#8217;d be willing to do that!). Second, aren&#8217;t they getting snippy, defensive and seriously critical?  Natter much, Karen?</p>
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		By: Jimmy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 14:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Regarding this law suit, and all the shit storms the co$ has been facing, interesting the payback one gets from perverting Ron&#039;s tech.  Just saying.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding this law suit, and all the shit storms the co$ has been facing, interesting the payback one gets from perverting Ron&#8217;s tech.  Just saying.</p>
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		By: Jimmy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 14:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/monique-rathbun-sues-david-miscavige/#comment-13217&quot;&gt;Jay&lt;/a&gt;.

What is your thesis?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/monique-rathbun-sues-david-miscavige/#comment-13217">Jay</a>.</p>
<p>What is your thesis?</p>
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		By: Summerwind		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Summerwind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 13:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/monique-rathbun-sues-david-miscavige/#comment-13073&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

I think he&#039;ll drop dead before he actually stops.
But I do think Mosey is taking the only recourse possible now...Sometimes turning the other cheek means letting your enemy see your other side. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/monique-rathbun-sues-david-miscavige/#comment-13073">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>I think he&#8217;ll drop dead before he actually stops.<br />
But I do think Mosey is taking the only recourse possible now&#8230;Sometimes turning the other cheek means letting your enemy see your other side. 🙂</p>
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		By: Jay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 13:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good morning, I am a student doing research on an introductory essay for a course on American Civil Liberties. Specifically dealing with the Civil Rights Movement of the mid to late 1960s.  So I may be out of place here, but I figured this forum to be the largest, openly accessible collection of people who study and practice the works of L. Ron Hubbard.  What I am inquiring about is this quote, attributable to L. Ron Hubbard:

&quot;In the US currently only 4% recognized the First Amendment to the Constitution which guarantees freedom of speech, the press and religion. Ignorance of the law, compounded by a wilful neglect of the Constitution by government officials is the basic reason for the riot, civil commotion and disintegration of the US.&quot;

The quote seems to be from 1969, in a document with this heading:

HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex
HCO POLICY LETTER OF 8 SEPTEMBER 1969
THE ORG EXEC COURSE INTRODUCTION

Could anyone shed some light on the research that found an estimation of only 4% recognition of the First Amendment in 1969?  Was there survey data to support this?  The entire thesis of my paper is really weak and I need conclusive data here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning, I am a student doing research on an introductory essay for a course on American Civil Liberties. Specifically dealing with the Civil Rights Movement of the mid to late 1960s.  So I may be out of place here, but I figured this forum to be the largest, openly accessible collection of people who study and practice the works of L. Ron Hubbard.  What I am inquiring about is this quote, attributable to L. Ron Hubbard:</p>
<p>&#8220;In the US currently only 4% recognized the First Amendment to the Constitution which guarantees freedom of speech, the press and religion. Ignorance of the law, compounded by a wilful neglect of the Constitution by government officials is the basic reason for the riot, civil commotion and disintegration of the US.&#8221;</p>
<p>The quote seems to be from 1969, in a document with this heading:</p>
<p>HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex<br />
HCO POLICY LETTER OF 8 SEPTEMBER 1969<br />
THE ORG EXEC COURSE INTRODUCTION</p>
<p>Could anyone shed some light on the research that found an estimation of only 4% recognition of the First Amendment in 1969?  Was there survey data to support this?  The entire thesis of my paper is really weak and I need conclusive data here.</p>
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		By: Victoria		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Victoria]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 09:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow. I was shocked to hear this, as I live in the same county where the lawsuit was filed. No idea the Rathbuns lived here!  Well, this is an old-fashioned, conservative sort of place,  and things like pointing surveillance cameras at your neighbors just doesn&#039;t go over well at all.  People value their privacy, which I&#039;m assuming is the reason the Rathbuns would have moved out here in the first place.  I think the church might have really screwed up on this one!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I was shocked to hear this, as I live in the same county where the lawsuit was filed. No idea the Rathbuns lived here!  Well, this is an old-fashioned, conservative sort of place,  and things like pointing surveillance cameras at your neighbors just doesn&#8217;t go over well at all.  People value their privacy, which I&#8217;m assuming is the reason the Rathbuns would have moved out here in the first place.  I think the church might have really screwed up on this one!</p>
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		By: Noni Mause		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Noni Mause]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 07:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mosey has a calm credibility that is going to serve her very well in front of a jury.  Someone help me out, though... to sink DM dont they first have to PROVE a link b/w the harassers and Co$ in general, and then further, PROVE he was both aware of and /or orchestrating the harassment?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mosey has a calm credibility that is going to serve her very well in front of a jury.  Someone help me out, though&#8230; to sink DM dont they first have to PROVE a link b/w the harassers and Co$ in general, and then further, PROVE he was both aware of and /or orchestrating the harassment?</p>
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