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		By: Never Clear		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2014 08:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-bust-exposed-plus-bonus/#comment-52090&quot;&gt;Bruce&lt;/a&gt;.

Well now I do!]]></description>
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<p>Well now I do!</p>
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		By: MJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2014 01:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-bust-exposed-plus-bonus/#comment-52146&quot;&gt;zana&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you very much Zana.]]></description>
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<p>Thank you very much Zana.</p>
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		By: WhiteStar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WhiteStar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2014 20:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-bust-exposed-plus-bonus/#comment-52152&quot;&gt;shelgold&lt;/a&gt;.

but isn&#039;t the tech suppose to make one more able to deal with adverse situations?
if the wins and gains only apply when times are good then what are the wins and gains worth.
it&#039;s when times are rough that you need them most, not when life is easy to handle.

that&#039;s like saying the medicine only works when you&#039;re not sick.

also joe, your comment says that something else is in fact more powerful then the tech.

if i have a weapon that can change the planet but you can thwart me from using it, then in practicality i DON&#039;T have a weapon i can use. i must first find a way to stop you from thwarting me. shouldn&#039;t i be using the tech to do that? if i don&#039;t, if i use some other means to stop you from stopping me, then that says the tech can&#039;t stop the suppression, again something else is more powerful than the tech.

those people ARE scientologists(lets us not evaluate or invalidate), they should be using the tech to WIN in the face of ANY adversity.

if what you said is true joe, then you just told the world that we have power of you. all we have to do is keep oppressing you and your wins and gains will be useless to you, that your knowledge of the tech is useless in the face of that.

You said &quot;But I do not think you can keep or use your wins in such an intensively PTS environment as the CoS for two main reasons. 1) Because the PTSness is in the VERY ACTIVITY itself that you are supposed to be getting these gains from, so essentially the PTSness is not only constant, present at all times, but unhandleable&quot;

if that is true, you just outlined how the wog world can keep the tech suppressed forever.

you used the word &quot;unhandleable&quot;. so then there are circumstances that the tech cannot handle.

if the tech can&#039;t handle miscavige, how can it handle the whole planet, full of mad men that make miscavige look like a boy scout?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-bust-exposed-plus-bonus/#comment-52152">shelgold</a>.</p>
<p>but isn&#8217;t the tech suppose to make one more able to deal with adverse situations?<br />
if the wins and gains only apply when times are good then what are the wins and gains worth.<br />
it&#8217;s when times are rough that you need them most, not when life is easy to handle.</p>
<p>that&#8217;s like saying the medicine only works when you&#8217;re not sick.</p>
<p>also joe, your comment says that something else is in fact more powerful then the tech.</p>
<p>if i have a weapon that can change the planet but you can thwart me from using it, then in practicality i DON&#8217;T have a weapon i can use. i must first find a way to stop you from thwarting me. shouldn&#8217;t i be using the tech to do that? if i don&#8217;t, if i use some other means to stop you from stopping me, then that says the tech can&#8217;t stop the suppression, again something else is more powerful than the tech.</p>
<p>those people ARE scientologists(lets us not evaluate or invalidate), they should be using the tech to WIN in the face of ANY adversity.</p>
<p>if what you said is true joe, then you just told the world that we have power of you. all we have to do is keep oppressing you and your wins and gains will be useless to you, that your knowledge of the tech is useless in the face of that.</p>
<p>You said &#8220;But I do not think you can keep or use your wins in such an intensively PTS environment as the CoS for two main reasons. 1) Because the PTSness is in the VERY ACTIVITY itself that you are supposed to be getting these gains from, so essentially the PTSness is not only constant, present at all times, but unhandleable&#8221;</p>
<p>if that is true, you just outlined how the wog world can keep the tech suppressed forever.</p>
<p>you used the word &#8220;unhandleable&#8221;. so then there are circumstances that the tech cannot handle.</p>
<p>if the tech can&#8217;t handle miscavige, how can it handle the whole planet, full of mad men that make miscavige look like a boy scout?</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2014 19:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-bust-exposed-plus-bonus/#comment-52157&quot;&gt;Odd Thomas&lt;/a&gt;.

Well said.]]></description>
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<p>Well said.</p>
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		By: remoteviewed		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2014 19:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes that crashing Zero pretty describes the state of the Church of Scientology these days.

I mean a picture....well you all the rest.

Wait till ol&#039; Rick finds out that he has to go back and re do objectives. 

Oh maybe he&#039;ll just &quot;man up&quot; and get with the program like most of these Ex GO seem to do.

Probably cause if they left what is in their &quot;Priest, Penitent, Privileged File&quot; will become public knowledge.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes that crashing Zero pretty describes the state of the Church of Scientology these days.</p>
<p>I mean a picture&#8230;.well you all the rest.</p>
<p>Wait till ol&#8217; Rick finds out that he has to go back and re do objectives. </p>
<p>Oh maybe he&#8217;ll just &#8220;man up&#8221; and get with the program like most of these Ex GO seem to do.</p>
<p>Probably cause if they left what is in their &#8220;Priest, Penitent, Privileged File&#8221; will become public knowledge.</p>
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		By: Mat Pesch		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mat Pesch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2014 15:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The summer months are the best for Flag as that is when many people have their vacations/time off from work.  In the Fall the already empty HGCs and courserooms become ghost towns.  September will be a busy time for Ethics with plenty of witch hunts and &quot;heads on a pike&quot;.  Its not that anyone expects that to improve the statistics.  Its just a big show to please the gods.   Hopefully Kathy True will continue to be our photographer on the ground.  Unfortunately, I don&#039;t think she will ever pick up a camera again after she finishes sec checking herself while staring into a bright light.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The summer months are the best for Flag as that is when many people have their vacations/time off from work.  In the Fall the already empty HGCs and courserooms become ghost towns.  September will be a busy time for Ethics with plenty of witch hunts and &#8220;heads on a pike&#8221;.  Its not that anyone expects that to improve the statistics.  Its just a big show to please the gods.   Hopefully Kathy True will continue to be our photographer on the ground.  Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t think she will ever pick up a camera again after she finishes sec checking herself while staring into a bright light.</p>
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		By: Cooper J Kessel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cooper J Kessel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2014 15:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-bust-exposed-plus-bonus/#comment-52133&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Sounds like she will need to do the PTS-SP Course again to help her confront AND handle suppression.

Then she will sent the folks booking her flights to the RPF for not checking to see what bitter defrocked apostates might also be on HER flight. 

Yo Kathy, I think you had better recall Rod and Lori Daniells back to Flag for a little tune up. They are still connected to Lori&#039;s sister whom I see all the time. Yes it is the same sister that you recalled Lori and my then wife Sheri  back to Flag for in 2006 and told them to disconnect from.

Eight years later and still no disconnection plus now you have an additional defrocked apostate (that would be me) and I live right across the street from Rod and Lori.   What is up with that? You had better get them to sell their house and move ...........................otherwise....................well you know........another one bites the dust!

Trust me, I am relentless, definately defrocked but not so much bitter these days as having some fun communicating whit your sheeple. Have a great day. And by the way, can you clamp down a tad more on your security issues.......sheesh, photos of Kendrick and all. You know HE is going to be pissed, pissed, pissed over this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-bust-exposed-plus-bonus/#comment-52133">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Sounds like she will need to do the PTS-SP Course again to help her confront AND handle suppression.</p>
<p>Then she will sent the folks booking her flights to the RPF for not checking to see what bitter defrocked apostates might also be on HER flight. </p>
<p>Yo Kathy, I think you had better recall Rod and Lori Daniells back to Flag for a little tune up. They are still connected to Lori&#8217;s sister whom I see all the time. Yes it is the same sister that you recalled Lori and my then wife Sheri  back to Flag for in 2006 and told them to disconnect from.</p>
<p>Eight years later and still no disconnection plus now you have an additional defrocked apostate (that would be me) and I live right across the street from Rod and Lori.   What is up with that? You had better get them to sell their house and move &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;otherwise&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..well you know&#8230;&#8230;..another one bites the dust!</p>
<p>Trust me, I am relentless, definately defrocked but not so much bitter these days as having some fun communicating whit your sheeple. Have a great day. And by the way, can you clamp down a tad more on your security issues&#8230;&#8230;.sheesh, photos of Kendrick and all. You know HE is going to be pissed, pissed, pissed over this.</p>
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		By: Cooper J Kessel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cooper J Kessel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2014 15:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-bust-exposed-plus-bonus/#comment-52153&quot;&gt;GPM&lt;/a&gt;.

You also have to prove you can chug a gallon of Kool Aide no blink and no stop without soiling your shorts........I mean shirt.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-bust-exposed-plus-bonus/#comment-52153">GPM</a>.</p>
<p>You also have to prove you can chug a gallon of Kool Aide no blink and no stop without soiling your shorts&#8230;&#8230;..I mean shirt.</p>
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		By: Cooper J Kessel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cooper J Kessel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2014 15:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-bust-exposed-plus-bonus/#comment-52107&quot;&gt;linda mccarthy&lt;/a&gt;.

Praying that his trip to the shit (I mean ship) will not be overly painful. A few more intensives of sec checking as set ups for OT VIII, then a private meeting with the Furher so he can personally guarantee a win for the cult in Texas (or else his ass is mothballs ), then a couple rounds with Teddy is the International Association of Suppressive assholes briefing room cooker to relieve him of all the cash he is earning from the cult in the courtroom in Texas and other than that ..............should be a nice trip to the Caribbean to celebrate his win. 

Well except he will need too purchase his OT VIII .0000000024 karat OT VIII bracelet and a couple hundred thousand TWTH booklets for the folks in Cartegena. Then he will be good. Always a pleasure to spend a few weeks in the most OT environment on the planet,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-bust-exposed-plus-bonus/#comment-52107">linda mccarthy</a>.</p>
<p>Praying that his trip to the shit (I mean ship) will not be overly painful. A few more intensives of sec checking as set ups for OT VIII, then a private meeting with the Furher so he can personally guarantee a win for the cult in Texas (or else his ass is mothballs ), then a couple rounds with Teddy is the International Association of Suppressive assholes briefing room cooker to relieve him of all the cash he is earning from the cult in the courtroom in Texas and other than that &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..should be a nice trip to the Caribbean to celebrate his win. </p>
<p>Well except he will need too purchase his OT VIII .0000000024 karat OT VIII bracelet and a couple hundred thousand TWTH booklets for the folks in Cartegena. Then he will be good. Always a pleasure to spend a few weeks in the most OT environment on the planet,</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2014 14:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent points, Joe. It&#039;s quite maddening to see how the environment within the Church has changed over the decades. In 1972, when I got in, everyone was caught up in the joy of creating. Every TR session, comm cycle, or hour on course, was purposed with having wins and realizing the potential for change - spiritual change. It was fun. By the early 1980s this had all changed. SCN was becoming more hard-edged, more militant and driven by stats and &#039;results&#039;. The spiritual nature of our Spiritual Journey was pushed aside in favor of more practical goals. Our leaders were in prison, LRH went into hiding and Scientology&#039;s DNA began to change. It&#039;s hard to articulate -- a little like Mother Teresa transitioning from a sweet compassionate and loving Sister, into a short-haired, tattooed and belligerent biker chick whose sole mission was to convert everyone - no matter what. 

The urge to be close to another Scientologist, to talk and learn became to fade in earnest. There was no time for talking anymore, for taking a moment and reflecting of what was possible in SCN. You were working for Bridge, on course, on staff or in the shitter. Enjoying oneself was no longer an option.

Then GAG I hit the SCN landscape like an old piece of space junk. All those with connections and loyalties to LRH that allowed them to remember what it used to be like were banished. Their memories became dangerous as we embarked on our current and perhaps last phase. Our very own Age of Darkness.

The best thing for the RCS is for all of us to keep shining the light of truth and embarrass them into submission. Expose their foolish lies, their silly childish tricks until they realize that they ceased being Scientology, the moment they gave up their right to think and handed it over to DM for &#039;safe keeping.&#039;

Europe and by extension the Catholic Church, went through their own Dark Ages and came out of it through the Renaissance. An Age of Enlightenment. Shoot, it worked for them, it can work for us as well.

Odd]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent points, Joe. It&#8217;s quite maddening to see how the environment within the Church has changed over the decades. In 1972, when I got in, everyone was caught up in the joy of creating. Every TR session, comm cycle, or hour on course, was purposed with having wins and realizing the potential for change &#8211; spiritual change. It was fun. By the early 1980s this had all changed. SCN was becoming more hard-edged, more militant and driven by stats and &#8216;results&#8217;. The spiritual nature of our Spiritual Journey was pushed aside in favor of more practical goals. Our leaders were in prison, LRH went into hiding and Scientology&#8217;s DNA began to change. It&#8217;s hard to articulate &#8212; a little like Mother Teresa transitioning from a sweet compassionate and loving Sister, into a short-haired, tattooed and belligerent biker chick whose sole mission was to convert everyone &#8211; no matter what. </p>
<p>The urge to be close to another Scientologist, to talk and learn became to fade in earnest. There was no time for talking anymore, for taking a moment and reflecting of what was possible in SCN. You were working for Bridge, on course, on staff or in the shitter. Enjoying oneself was no longer an option.</p>
<p>Then GAG I hit the SCN landscape like an old piece of space junk. All those with connections and loyalties to LRH that allowed them to remember what it used to be like were banished. Their memories became dangerous as we embarked on our current and perhaps last phase. Our very own Age of Darkness.</p>
<p>The best thing for the RCS is for all of us to keep shining the light of truth and embarrass them into submission. Expose their foolish lies, their silly childish tricks until they realize that they ceased being Scientology, the moment they gave up their right to think and handed it over to DM for &#8216;safe keeping.&#8217;</p>
<p>Europe and by extension the Catholic Church, went through their own Dark Ages and came out of it through the Renaissance. An Age of Enlightenment. Shoot, it worked for them, it can work for us as well.</p>
<p>Odd</p>
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