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		By: cindy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-ias-lies-exposed/#comment-90262</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 23:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-ias-lies-exposed/#comment-90062&quot;&gt;Still on your side&lt;/a&gt;.

If Brad Kugler is the son of Ben Kugler, the scam artist apple doesn&#039;t fall far from the tree.  There was a whole write up on either Marty&#039;s or Mike&#039;s site about Ben Kugler and his partner who were doing a big planned community for Scientologists in &quot;good standing only&quot; in Clearwater in a shi shi area.  Maybe someone who knows the details can tell the story.  But what I remember was they  got lots of investor money from Scns and then never opened, went bankrupt, and the church had to bail them out by buying the property from them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-ias-lies-exposed/#comment-90062">Still on your side</a>.</p>
<p>If Brad Kugler is the son of Ben Kugler, the scam artist apple doesn&#8217;t fall far from the tree.  There was a whole write up on either Marty&#8217;s or Mike&#8217;s site about Ben Kugler and his partner who were doing a big planned community for Scientologists in &#8220;good standing only&#8221; in Clearwater in a shi shi area.  Maybe someone who knows the details can tell the story.  But what I remember was they  got lots of investor money from Scns and then never opened, went bankrupt, and the church had to bail them out by buying the property from them.</p>
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		By: petlover1948		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-ias-lies-exposed/#comment-90258</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 22:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-ias-lies-exposed/#comment-90212&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

i have posted yesterday &#038; today on Go Fund Me site....yesterday&#039;s was removed...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-ias-lies-exposed/#comment-90212">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>i have posted yesterday &amp; today on Go Fund Me site&#8230;.yesterday&#8217;s was removed&#8230;</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-ias-lies-exposed/#comment-90212</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 17:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-ias-lies-exposed/#comment-90104&quot;&gt;windhorsegallery&lt;/a&gt;.

Windhorse, thanks for your reply, and I agee, a billion buys plenty of time. 

 Please don&#039;t think that because I like/need to laugh in order to confront, that I think the cult&#039;s atrocities are actually FUNNY.  They&#039;re in no way in themselves funny. But yet, some things can be and actually are.

Was anything about the Holocaust funny?  I would think decidedly not. 

Yet, Mel Brooks thought so.

He cherry-picked bits and pieces of what was Adolph Hitler&#039;s reign of unspeakable horror, and turned these bits into a hilarious film.  The laughs are just non-stop.

So, the point being, if a brilliant Jewish writer can use the Holocaust as grist for his comedy mill, we can use bits and pieces of Scientology&#039;s reign of suppression and laugh also.  

This doesn&#039;t mean that what the cult is doing is not harmful, damaging and painful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-ias-lies-exposed/#comment-90104">windhorsegallery</a>.</p>
<p>Windhorse, thanks for your reply, and I agee, a billion buys plenty of time. </p>
<p> Please don&#8217;t think that because I like/need to laugh in order to confront, that I think the cult&#8217;s atrocities are actually FUNNY.  They&#8217;re in no way in themselves funny. But yet, some things can be and actually are.</p>
<p>Was anything about the Holocaust funny?  I would think decidedly not. </p>
<p>Yet, Mel Brooks thought so.</p>
<p>He cherry-picked bits and pieces of what was Adolph Hitler&#8217;s reign of unspeakable horror, and turned these bits into a hilarious film.  The laughs are just non-stop.</p>
<p>So, the point being, if a brilliant Jewish writer can use the Holocaust as grist for his comedy mill, we can use bits and pieces of Scientology&#8217;s reign of suppression and laugh also.  </p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t mean that what the cult is doing is not harmful, damaging and painful.</p>
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		By: Jethro Bodine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-ias-lies-exposed/#comment-90152</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 11:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Laughable. This is the kind of thing that the IAS is allegedly funding. It&#039;s also funny that he hasn&#039;t raised a single dollar through this &quot;GoFundMe&quot; campaign since everyone knows the money would just go right into the coffers of the IAS or whatever scam du jour is operating (Valley Org perhaps?).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laughable. This is the kind of thing that the IAS is allegedly funding. It&#8217;s also funny that he hasn&#8217;t raised a single dollar through this &#8220;GoFundMe&#8221; campaign since everyone knows the money would just go right into the coffers of the IAS or whatever scam du jour is operating (Valley Org perhaps?).</p>
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		By: valhalkarie		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-ias-lies-exposed/#comment-90134</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 04:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I notice that all forums of x scientologists are so warm,welcoming,never a passive aggressive remark barely ever, so much love! How can so many understanding ppl be SPs? Also if ever a pro scientologist troll appears working there confront or just nasty remarks,are almost always taken with a grain of salt in total apathetic context. never a cruel remark. always a compassionate answer with facts and an offer to help in spite of there abuse,it&#039;s excused. With the understanding,there mindset,can&#039;t be reasoned with until they awake or crack. Always just a genuine plea for the poor shlub to look at both sides. Then the small social media presence of in scientologists are full of nothing but passive aggressive,cruel,hateful,closed minded,abusive,sick,foul, arguments and disagreements. Literally all that was good about scientology has left. Scientology. It is nothing now but sociopathic or completely selfish, or anti social robot people that pay tons of cash to better them self. The clergy is full of broken ppl. That were oppressed in shit countries now so eager to be a powerful decider,with a lust for control stemming from  terrible life experience. Evil,scientology so sneaky knows the perfect humans to exploit. Africans,Eastern Europeans,South Asia etc. They never experienced true human rights therefor whatever mental abuse they get they can&#039;t see it as oppression because they experienced worse,so as long as scientology doesn&#039;t oppress them like back home they are content. so sick man!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice that all forums of x scientologists are so warm,welcoming,never a passive aggressive remark barely ever, so much love! How can so many understanding ppl be SPs? Also if ever a pro scientologist troll appears working there confront or just nasty remarks,are almost always taken with a grain of salt in total apathetic context. never a cruel remark. always a compassionate answer with facts and an offer to help in spite of there abuse,it&#8217;s excused. With the understanding,there mindset,can&#8217;t be reasoned with until they awake or crack. Always just a genuine plea for the poor shlub to look at both sides. Then the small social media presence of in scientologists are full of nothing but passive aggressive,cruel,hateful,closed minded,abusive,sick,foul, arguments and disagreements. Literally all that was good about scientology has left. Scientology. It is nothing now but sociopathic or completely selfish, or anti social robot people that pay tons of cash to better them self. The clergy is full of broken ppl. That were oppressed in shit countries now so eager to be a powerful decider,with a lust for control stemming from  terrible life experience. Evil,scientology so sneaky knows the perfect humans to exploit. Africans,Eastern Europeans,South Asia etc. They never experienced true human rights therefor whatever mental abuse they get they can&#8217;t see it as oppression because they experienced worse,so as long as scientology doesn&#8217;t oppress them like back home they are content. so sick man!</p>
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		By: Gus Cox		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-ias-lies-exposed/#comment-90129</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 02:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-ias-lies-exposed/#comment-90049&quot;&gt;Idle Morgue&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Another Illegal PC was milked out of her/his total inheritance so “her/his” parents could “have Scientology” when they came back.&quot;

Jeeeezus.  Just when I think it couldn&#039;t get any worse.  That&#039;s Scientology!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-ias-lies-exposed/#comment-90049">Idle Morgue</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Another Illegal PC was milked out of her/his total inheritance so “her/his” parents could “have Scientology” when they came back.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jeeeezus.  Just when I think it couldn&#8217;t get any worse.  That&#8217;s Scientology!</p>
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		By: Erica A.		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-ias-lies-exposed/#comment-90128</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 02:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t that what the IAS pays for? Are the people in the bubble so blind that they don&#039;t see the millions aren&#039;t being put to use? I mean Orgs are fundraising for buildings &#038; expenses and the IAS is all about making the planet better. As someone who was never in; it blows my mind that no one is asking for transparency. Do they really not question where the money is going? Aren&#039;t the Go Fund Me pages making it clear(no pun intended) that they aren&#039;t getting financial assistance through the IAS? Why should people on the outside donate when SO much has already been donated for VMs and various programs?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t that what the IAS pays for? Are the people in the bubble so blind that they don&#8217;t see the millions aren&#8217;t being put to use? I mean Orgs are fundraising for buildings &amp; expenses and the IAS is all about making the planet better. As someone who was never in; it blows my mind that no one is asking for transparency. Do they really not question where the money is going? Aren&#8217;t the Go Fund Me pages making it clear(no pun intended) that they aren&#8217;t getting financial assistance through the IAS? Why should people on the outside donate when SO much has already been donated for VMs and various programs?</p>
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		By: I Yawnalot		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-ias-lies-exposed/#comment-90116</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 01:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What really makes my butt itch with public statements about, concerning in, related to and in general spruking about scientology is, it&#039;s all about prediction for helping others &#038; no facts &#038; no actuality. Like... plenty of sizzle &#038; no sausage.
Even back in the &#039;hey day&#039; of the 80s when scientology didn&#039;t have dlhdm for very long the biggest sprukers for the movement weren&#039;t practicing auditors and the highest money earners for the cult weren&#039;t either. It&#039;s a PR world that&#039;s for sure. Don&#039;t get me wrong, I&#039;m not saying actual auditors are an answer or anything like that - there&#039;s far too many negative opinions about that to make public statements concerning the subject.
But a common thread of all bullshit is that the one shouting the loudest, demanding the most money is generally the one who knows least about what they are taking about as far as application goes. Politics oozes that crap from sunlight till dawn with experts who couldn&#039;t change a light blub. Bankers who couldn&#039;t run a household budget or probably the worst, police or military commanders who&#039;ve never earned the right to wear a uniform. 
But of all the organisations who beg for money the IAS is the worst. Nothing would be more honest or pleasing than to see an honest IAS income/expenditure account. I would be my life that less than 2% of money paid to the IAS is actually used to help people in need (not photographers or PR people either). They guard their income/expenditure as if their life depended on it, which it does.
The other fact emerging concerning the modern scientologist is that they are without doubt the most blinded and stupid people ever to write a check. 
In the name of help, many crimes are committed, dm&#039;s scientology tops the list as the most criminally oriented organisation in the history of modern times. If you don&#039;t believe it, let&#039;s see the real books of this tax free charitable organisation, starting with the expenditure of the leader itself and then services delivered.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What really makes my butt itch with public statements about, concerning in, related to and in general spruking about scientology is, it&#8217;s all about prediction for helping others &amp; no facts &amp; no actuality. Like&#8230; plenty of sizzle &amp; no sausage.<br />
Even back in the &#8216;hey day&#8217; of the 80s when scientology didn&#8217;t have dlhdm for very long the biggest sprukers for the movement weren&#8217;t practicing auditors and the highest money earners for the cult weren&#8217;t either. It&#8217;s a PR world that&#8217;s for sure. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;m not saying actual auditors are an answer or anything like that &#8211; there&#8217;s far too many negative opinions about that to make public statements concerning the subject.<br />
But a common thread of all bullshit is that the one shouting the loudest, demanding the most money is generally the one who knows least about what they are taking about as far as application goes. Politics oozes that crap from sunlight till dawn with experts who couldn&#8217;t change a light blub. Bankers who couldn&#8217;t run a household budget or probably the worst, police or military commanders who&#8217;ve never earned the right to wear a uniform.<br />
But of all the organisations who beg for money the IAS is the worst. Nothing would be more honest or pleasing than to see an honest IAS income/expenditure account. I would be my life that less than 2% of money paid to the IAS is actually used to help people in need (not photographers or PR people either). They guard their income/expenditure as if their life depended on it, which it does.<br />
The other fact emerging concerning the modern scientologist is that they are without doubt the most blinded and stupid people ever to write a check.<br />
In the name of help, many crimes are committed, dm&#8217;s scientology tops the list as the most criminally oriented organisation in the history of modern times. If you don&#8217;t believe it, let&#8217;s see the real books of this tax free charitable organisation, starting with the expenditure of the leader itself and then services delivered.</p>
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		By: Pepper		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 00:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-ias-lies-exposed/#comment-90107&quot;&gt;Maureen&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Maureen.  I couldn&#039;t find it and wanted to read the Mission Statement.

&quot;We have delivered hundreds of workshops, and donated and distributed hundreds of thousands of educational materials&quot;.  

DONATED hundreds of thousands of educational materials?  The guy is full of shit.

I saw Roger&#039;s comment.  Believe it or not, there will some Scientologists who will not get the joke or think that his comment was covertly hostile.  They will think its peachy keen and so &quot;theta&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-ias-lies-exposed/#comment-90107">Maureen</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Maureen.  I couldn&#8217;t find it and wanted to read the Mission Statement.</p>
<p>&#8220;We have delivered hundreds of workshops, and donated and distributed hundreds of thousands of educational materials&#8221;.  </p>
<p>DONATED hundreds of thousands of educational materials?  The guy is full of shit.</p>
<p>I saw Roger&#8217;s comment.  Believe it or not, there will some Scientologists who will not get the joke or think that his comment was covertly hostile.  They will think its peachy keen and so &#8220;theta&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Marie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2015 23:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-ias-lies-exposed/#comment-90107&quot;&gt;Maureen&lt;/a&gt;.

You can leave comments on that GoFundMe page.  There are 2 currently--1 that says it is a Scientology scam; and the 2nd that &quot;praises&quot; it as being CoS ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-ias-lies-exposed/#comment-90107">Maureen</a>.</p>
<p>You can leave comments on that GoFundMe page.  There are 2 currently&#8211;1 that says it is a Scientology scam; and the 2nd that &#8220;praises&#8221; it as being CoS 😉</p>
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