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		By: SPeaking my Truth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SPeaking my Truth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2019 21:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are a whole lot of LRH quotes on social media.
Looks like people has forgotten how to think an original thougth and needs to repeat some agreed upon &quot;truth&quot; to be sure to be on the right path. Is this the real meaning of self-determinism?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a whole lot of LRH quotes on social media.<br />
Looks like people has forgotten how to think an original thougth and needs to repeat some agreed upon &#8220;truth&#8221; to be sure to be on the right path. Is this the real meaning of self-determinism?</p>
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		By: Derek		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-words-of-wisdom-from-ron-3/#comment-301177</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2019 12:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I also worked with France on the Scientology Exhibit tour in 2001 when she was in Bu 6 CLO UK (or maybe it was div 6 AO UK, somewhere in the public divisions) . And it breaks my heart to see her name below this promo piece, knowing she is still slaving away doing the greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics except her own. She was/is such a nice person, never slipped into that bullying &#039;on-purpose&#039; SO exec personality. There are many like her in the SO and I really hope some day they will wake up and smell the coffee. It&#039;s sad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also worked with France on the Scientology Exhibit tour in 2001 when she was in Bu 6 CLO UK (or maybe it was div 6 AO UK, somewhere in the public divisions) . And it breaks my heart to see her name below this promo piece, knowing she is still slaving away doing the greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics except her own. She was/is such a nice person, never slipped into that bullying &#8216;on-purpose&#8217; SO exec personality. There are many like her in the SO and I really hope some day they will wake up and smell the coffee. It&#8217;s sad.</p>
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		By: Prof. Aharon Friedman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Prof. Aharon Friedman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2019 06:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In “The Way to Happiness”, Laffie says: “Keep your teeth in good health.” What a profound statement. This will bring piece to the world. If only everyone did just that, there would be no wars, no starvation, no disease. 

This is what the genius came up with after years of research.

By the way, his own teeth were rotting, since he was afraid of dentists.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In “The Way to Happiness”, Laffie says: “Keep your teeth in good health.” What a profound statement. This will bring piece to the world. If only everyone did just that, there would be no wars, no starvation, no disease. </p>
<p>This is what the genius came up with after years of research.</p>
<p>By the way, his own teeth were rotting, since he was afraid of dentists.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeaceMaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2019 19:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If the &quot;thetan moves the body,&quot; then what happens in animals?  Do they have thetans, too (which would fit with traditional beliefs that peoples&#039; spirits can be reincarnated in animals) or do they somehow move some other way?

Besides obviously just not even thinking things through, Hubbard also failed to consider how humans are inherently wired in ways that strongly influence us - something increasingly being revealed by modern scientific research - and also have all sorts of below-consciousness and involuntary mechanisms at work as well.  Not only are our brains and minds not simply computers, as his model implies, but his notions about thetans then get into what can be categorized as magical thinking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the &#8220;thetan moves the body,&#8221; then what happens in animals?  Do they have thetans, too (which would fit with traditional beliefs that peoples&#8217; spirits can be reincarnated in animals) or do they somehow move some other way?</p>
<p>Besides obviously just not even thinking things through, Hubbard also failed to consider how humans are inherently wired in ways that strongly influence us &#8211; something increasingly being revealed by modern scientific research &#8211; and also have all sorts of below-consciousness and involuntary mechanisms at work as well.  Not only are our brains and minds not simply computers, as his model implies, but his notions about thetans then get into what can be categorized as magical thinking.</p>
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		By: Ms. B. Haven		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ms. B. Haven]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2019 18:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-words-of-wisdom-from-ron-3/#comment-300993&quot;&gt;Zee Mooz&lt;/a&gt;.

Funny you should ask Zee...

Here is a link to another Hubbard who was active back in the 50&#039;s as an LSD pioneer although with a bit of a shadowy background. He actually did help people and his work (along with others) is being revived today. Check out &#039;How to Change Your Mind&#039; by Michael Pollan. It&#039;s interesting if nothing else. It certainly holds more promise than ANYTH:ING scientology has to offer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Matthew_Hubbard]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-words-of-wisdom-from-ron-3/#comment-300993">Zee Mooz</a>.</p>
<p>Funny you should ask Zee&#8230;</p>
<p>Here is a link to another Hubbard who was active back in the 50&#8217;s as an LSD pioneer although with a bit of a shadowy background. He actually did help people and his work (along with others) is being revived today. Check out &#8216;How to Change Your Mind&#8217; by Michael Pollan. It&#8217;s interesting if nothing else. It certainly holds more promise than ANYTH:ING scientology has to offer.</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Matthew_Hubbard" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Matthew_Hubbard</a></p>
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		By: Ms. B. Haven		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ms. B. Haven]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2019 18:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-words-of-wisdom-from-ron-3/#comment-300985&quot;&gt;SILVIA&lt;/a&gt;.

SILVIA, the real revelation in &#039;Science of Survival&#039; is on the dedication page of the early editions before they were cleaned up and disappeared. It would be fun to pull out one of these historical volumes and show it to any current scientologist, staff or public, and ask &quot;who is Alexis?&quot; Even though there are no semi-colons involved that one is sure to baffle even the most foolproof cultie.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-words-of-wisdom-from-ron-3/#comment-300985">SILVIA</a>.</p>
<p>SILVIA, the real revelation in &#8216;Science of Survival&#8217; is on the dedication page of the early editions before they were cleaned up and disappeared. It would be fun to pull out one of these historical volumes and show it to any current scientologist, staff or public, and ask &#8220;who is Alexis?&#8221; Even though there are no semi-colons involved that one is sure to baffle even the most foolproof cultie.</p>
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		By: Chris Shugart		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Shugart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2019 16:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-words-of-wisdom-from-ron-3/#comment-300985&quot;&gt;SILVIA&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, Hubbard&#039;s glibness was often just overt ignorance. His so called knowledge was merely ideas he pulled out of his rear end and arrogantly called science. 

In regard to Aristotle, he wrote &quot;Poetics,&quot; a treatise on dramatic and literary theory that&#039;s still studied today. Professional writers for stage and screen continue to use those theories, just as creative writers did back in the Middle Ages and the Renaissance. 

It&#039;s ironic that Hubbard&#039;s fiction writing might have achieved a respectable level of quality had he studied Aristotle. Of course, it&#039;s possible that he did read Poetics and passed it on as his own work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-words-of-wisdom-from-ron-3/#comment-300985">SILVIA</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, Hubbard&#8217;s glibness was often just overt ignorance. His so called knowledge was merely ideas he pulled out of his rear end and arrogantly called science. </p>
<p>In regard to Aristotle, he wrote &#8220;Poetics,&#8221; a treatise on dramatic and literary theory that&#8217;s still studied today. Professional writers for stage and screen continue to use those theories, just as creative writers did back in the Middle Ages and the Renaissance. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s ironic that Hubbard&#8217;s fiction writing might have achieved a respectable level of quality had he studied Aristotle. Of course, it&#8217;s possible that he did read Poetics and passed it on as his own work.</p>
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		By: Zee Mooz		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2019 15:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Incoherent rambling&quot; describes almost all of Lrons &#039;lectures&#039; and &#039;congresses&#039;.  They make me wonder where Lron was getting his LSD in the &#039;50&#039;s.  .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Incoherent rambling&#8221; describes almost all of Lrons &#8216;lectures&#8217; and &#8216;congresses&#8217;.  They make me wonder where Lron was getting his LSD in the &#8217;50&#8217;s.  .</p>
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		By: Sarita Shoemaker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarita Shoemaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2019 15:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I almost bought into NEEDING the &quot;L&#039;s&quot;

All of the promotion had me hooked on wanting what it said it would give me.  

I remember being sat down alone by one of Craig Jensen&#039;s executives to &quot;enlighten&quot;me on what L11 was and how I would benefit.  

They were doing the &#039;ruin&#039; drill on me and when I realized it I did my best to decline and avoid but still be employed because I had no other job experience or world experience and did not believe I could actually survive outside of the scientology bubble. 

That money went to pay rent, help my mom who was hit by a drunk driver (PTS Rundown), pay for baby sitting, food, etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost bought into NEEDING the &#8220;L&#8217;s&#8221;</p>
<p>All of the promotion had me hooked on wanting what it said it would give me.  </p>
<p>I remember being sat down alone by one of Craig Jensen&#8217;s executives to &#8220;enlighten&#8221;me on what L11 was and how I would benefit.  </p>
<p>They were doing the &#8216;ruin&#8217; drill on me and when I realized it I did my best to decline and avoid but still be employed because I had no other job experience or world experience and did not believe I could actually survive outside of the scientology bubble. </p>
<p>That money went to pay rent, help my mom who was hit by a drunk driver (PTS Rundown), pay for baby sitting, food, etc.</p>
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		By: SILVIA		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SILVIA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2019 14:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Additionally LRH used to make statements that are not truthful, nor accurate.

Specific: Science of Survival, towards the beginning of the book, LRH states Aristoteles was never a scientist and his philosophy lacked that view; LRH was of course also adding that Scientology was the very first science of knowledge.

Yet, if you review Aristoteles life and philosophy, you will find he is considered to be a great scientist and, of course, his philosophy affected many fields that still use some of his basic studies and findings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Additionally LRH used to make statements that are not truthful, nor accurate.</p>
<p>Specific: Science of Survival, towards the beginning of the book, LRH states Aristoteles was never a scientist and his philosophy lacked that view; LRH was of course also adding that Scientology was the very first science of knowledge.</p>
<p>Yet, if you review Aristoteles life and philosophy, you will find he is considered to be a great scientist and, of course, his philosophy affected many fields that still use some of his basic studies and findings.</p>
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