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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2024 21:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narcissistic-personality-part-3-the-generous-narcissist/#comment-585087&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, being able to laugh at yourself is a good thing.]]></description>
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<p>Yes, being able to laugh at yourself is a good thing.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2024 20:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narcissistic-personality-part-3-the-generous-narcissist/#comment-584796&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, it IS funny, isn&#039;t it :)  Well, at least we can laugh at ourselves :)]]></description>
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<p>Yes, it IS funny, isn&#8217;t it 🙂  Well, at least we can laugh at ourselves 🙂</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2024 05:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narcissistic-personality-part-3-the-generous-narcissist/#comment-584799&quot;&gt;otherles&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes and look what that got us:  WWII.]]></description>
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<p>Yes and look what that got us:  WWII.</p>
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		By: otherles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narcissistic-personality-part-3-the-generous-narcissist/#comment-584573&quot;&gt;otherles&lt;/a&gt;.

Historical Note: Once Roem was useless to Hitler he was going to be taken out. The Night Of The Long Knives was inevitable.]]></description>
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<p>Historical Note: Once Roem was useless to Hitler he was going to be taken out. The Night Of The Long Knives was inevitable.</p>
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		By: otherles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narcissistic-personality-part-3-the-generous-narcissist/#comment-584787&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

Adolf Hitler (and his cronies) said that the German People were superior to everyone else.]]></description>
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<p>Adolf Hitler (and his cronies) said that the German People were superior to everyone else.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narcissistic-personality-part-3-the-generous-narcissist/#comment-584790&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Yep, we were low hanging fruit.  And then later after the love bombing, we were the shit.  LOL]]></description>
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<p>Yep, we were low hanging fruit.  And then later after the love bombing, we were the shit.  LOL</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2024 19:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narcissistic-personality-part-3-the-generous-narcissist/#comment-584787&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, Cindy. Yes, I was arrogant too. I totally agree on all your points.

In fact,  I cringe, thinking back on the arrogance I felt (and sometimes displayed) toward those who weren&#039;t Scientologists.

Now, in my own defense, this arrogance was instilled in me as part of the love bombing.  I certainly didn&#039;t come IN to Scientology believing I was a superior being, a &quot;big thetan&quot;. Just the opposite in fact; I was dreadfully insecure, mostly as a reaction to a lot of losses thur death and stupid decisions I had made about these losses, etc.  By the time I got in,  my self confidence / self esteem levels were  zero, and it must have been painfully obvious to them how pathetically I appreciated their approval.   Ripe, low hanging fruit :)   And then, only 20 years later :) I just knew I was the shit :)

No doubt you didn&#039;t go into Scientology a narcissist either.  We were just low hanging fruit, that&#039;s all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narcissistic-personality-part-3-the-generous-narcissist/#comment-584787">Cindy</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, Cindy. Yes, I was arrogant too. I totally agree on all your points.</p>
<p>In fact,  I cringe, thinking back on the arrogance I felt (and sometimes displayed) toward those who weren&#8217;t Scientologists.</p>
<p>Now, in my own defense, this arrogance was instilled in me as part of the love bombing.  I certainly didn&#8217;t come IN to Scientology believing I was a superior being, a &#8220;big thetan&#8221;. Just the opposite in fact; I was dreadfully insecure, mostly as a reaction to a lot of losses thur death and stupid decisions I had made about these losses, etc.  By the time I got in,  my self confidence / self esteem levels were  zero, and it must have been painfully obvious to them how pathetically I appreciated their approval.   Ripe, low hanging fruit 🙂   And then, only 20 years later 🙂 I just knew I was the shit 🙂</p>
<p>No doubt you didn&#8217;t go into Scientology a narcissist either.  We were just low hanging fruit, that&#8217;s all.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narcissistic-personality-part-3-the-generous-narcissist/#comment-584747&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

I can see the title to your tell all book, &quot;I was a Scn-Made Narcissist.&quot;  I&#039;d buy that book.  What you said was all true.  Not only have I seen it, but I have had it happen to me took, just the way you said.  And LRH started the whole arrogance thing when he said stuff like, &quot;We are the only ones with the tech to save this sector of the universe&quot; and similar things.  And by labeling Non Scns with the  pejorative of &quot;wog&quot; LRH was planting the seeds of arrogance in us.   That is one of my big pet peeves about Scns, is that they are arrogant.  I was arrogant too when I was in.  I&#039;m working every day to shed that arrogance.]]></description>
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<p>I can see the title to your tell all book, &#8220;I was a Scn-Made Narcissist.&#8221;  I&#8217;d buy that book.  What you said was all true.  Not only have I seen it, but I have had it happen to me took, just the way you said.  And LRH started the whole arrogance thing when he said stuff like, &#8220;We are the only ones with the tech to save this sector of the universe&#8221; and similar things.  And by labeling Non Scns with the  pejorative of &#8220;wog&#8221; LRH was planting the seeds of arrogance in us.   That is one of my big pet peeves about Scns, is that they are arrogant.  I was arrogant too when I was in.  I&#8217;m working every day to shed that arrogance.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2024 05:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is possible that many Still Ins are not essentially narcissists.  But org staffs can and do foster narcissism in their publics.  For 25 years I was a public.  I was never staff.  The staff of my little org continually said wonderful things to me.  They noticed and admired  changes of wardrobe, make-up, jewelry, hair.  I was told I was smart; I was told I was stunning, frequently given little compliments about this or that.  I was assured that my presence at the org mattered a great deal; I was important, I was valuable.

This is called love-bombing.

I am, was not, nor have I ever been anything remotely close to being a celebrity.  But the staff of my little org treated me like one.  Truth.

Some more truth; love bombing can be addicting.  It was for me.  In a wholly unconscious way. 

I had no clue what was going on.  No clue that the &quot;flowing&quot; of admiration to public was Standard Operating Procedure.    Here I was the recipient of all this, continually... just for showing up.

I liked it.  I began to believe it.  I wanted MORE of it.  More praise, more admiration.  &quot;Hey, I must be really something, huh?  Let me be MORE of what they like so much&quot;.   I became narcissistic, NEEDING and EXPECTING the admiration from them.   Convinced that it was justified; Of course it had to be true, or why else would they say such wonderful things (and they were good at it; no phoney flattery, no overdoing it; clever and subtle compliments and acknowledgements).
 
  In brief, in not too long a time, I became ADDICTED to love-bombing. A narcissist.!   With NO self awareness of being addicted to this, or how narcissistic it was to expect continual compliments, etc.

And people, I didn&#039;t even HAVE a lot of money, and out of a small circle of my small business related aquaintances NO ONE knew who I was. I certainly wasn&#039;t a celeb; no way was I a whale.   But I got the love bombing treatment anyway, continually, for the time I was there. 

So!   if the staff of my little org could consider ME love-bomb worthy, , can you just IMAGINE how clobbered over the head love-bombed REAL celebrities and whales are?  

Years later after I left I read online about how love-bombing of public by Scientology Class V org staff is just WHAT THEY DO!  

And when I read this I was able to have a good laugh (at myself, for believing my own publicity, LOL)  because by then I thoroughly understood that their &quot;affinity&quot; and professed admiration for me could (and did) magically evaporate into thin air once it was conclusively determined that I was &quot;disaffected&quot; and as such could not be &quot;handled&quot;.  

its like this: when you&#039;re IN, you&#039;re wonderful, and when you&#039;re out, you&#039;re not :)

I was glad to understand the phoniness of my relationship with and to them.   It was a big win, actually. A relief. I didn&#039;t have to feel guilty for leaving them.  I didn&#039;t have to worry that I had hurt them!

They had never really liked me.  Liking and admiring me were merely  part of their job.  Thir &quot;hat&quot;.

 Pretty cold blooded on their part but  I&#039;m glad I got to see it all for what it was.  I&#039;m  glad not to be a narcissist any more!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is possible that many Still Ins are not essentially narcissists.  But org staffs can and do foster narcissism in their publics.  For 25 years I was a public.  I was never staff.  The staff of my little org continually said wonderful things to me.  They noticed and admired  changes of wardrobe, make-up, jewelry, hair.  I was told I was smart; I was told I was stunning, frequently given little compliments about this or that.  I was assured that my presence at the org mattered a great deal; I was important, I was valuable.</p>
<p>This is called love-bombing.</p>
<p>I am, was not, nor have I ever been anything remotely close to being a celebrity.  But the staff of my little org treated me like one.  Truth.</p>
<p>Some more truth; love bombing can be addicting.  It was for me.  In a wholly unconscious way. </p>
<p>I had no clue what was going on.  No clue that the &#8220;flowing&#8221; of admiration to public was Standard Operating Procedure.    Here I was the recipient of all this, continually&#8230; just for showing up.</p>
<p>I liked it.  I began to believe it.  I wanted MORE of it.  More praise, more admiration.  &#8220;Hey, I must be really something, huh?  Let me be MORE of what they like so much&#8221;.   I became narcissistic, NEEDING and EXPECTING the admiration from them.   Convinced that it was justified; Of course it had to be true, or why else would they say such wonderful things (and they were good at it; no phoney flattery, no overdoing it; clever and subtle compliments and acknowledgements).</p>
<p>  In brief, in not too long a time, I became ADDICTED to love-bombing. A narcissist.!   With NO self awareness of being addicted to this, or how narcissistic it was to expect continual compliments, etc.</p>
<p>And people, I didn&#8217;t even HAVE a lot of money, and out of a small circle of my small business related aquaintances NO ONE knew who I was. I certainly wasn&#8217;t a celeb; no way was I a whale.   But I got the love bombing treatment anyway, continually, for the time I was there. </p>
<p>So!   if the staff of my little org could consider ME love-bomb worthy, , can you just IMAGINE how clobbered over the head love-bombed REAL celebrities and whales are?  </p>
<p>Years later after I left I read online about how love-bombing of public by Scientology Class V org staff is just WHAT THEY DO!  </p>
<p>And when I read this I was able to have a good laugh (at myself, for believing my own publicity, LOL)  because by then I thoroughly understood that their &#8220;affinity&#8221; and professed admiration for me could (and did) magically evaporate into thin air once it was conclusively determined that I was &#8220;disaffected&#8221; and as such could not be &#8220;handled&#8221;.  </p>
<p>its like this: when you&#8217;re IN, you&#8217;re wonderful, and when you&#8217;re out, you&#8217;re not 🙂</p>
<p>I was glad to understand the phoniness of my relationship with and to them.   It was a big win, actually. A relief. I didn&#8217;t have to feel guilty for leaving them.  I didn&#8217;t have to worry that I had hurt them!</p>
<p>They had never really liked me.  Liking and admiring me were merely  part of their job.  Thir &#8220;hat&#8221;.</p>
<p> Pretty cold blooded on their part but  I&#8217;m glad I got to see it all for what it was.  I&#8217;m  glad not to be a narcissist any more!</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2024 04:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is possible that many Still Ins are not essentially narcissists.  But org staffs can and do foster narcissism in their publics.  For 25 years I was a public.  I was never staff.  The staff of my little org continually said wonderful things to me.  They noticed and admired  changes of wardrobe, make-up, jewelry, hair.  I was told I was smart; I was told I was stunning, frequently given little compliments about this or that.  I was assured that my presence at the org mattered a great deal; I was important, I was valuable.

This is called love-bombing.  Back then I was not familiar with this term.

I am, was not, nor have I ever been anything remotely close to being a celebrity.  But the staff of my little org treated me like one.  Truth.

Some more truth; love bombing can be addicting.  It was for me.  In a wholly unconscious way. 

I had no clue what was going on.  No clue that the &quot;flowing&quot; of admiration to to me as a public Scientologist and member of their org was Standard Operating Procedure.  All I had to do was show up, and...wow!  I was SOMEBODY.  (They were good at this, by the way.  Never obvious.)

I liked it.  I began to believe it.  I wanted MORE of it. MORE praise, MORE admiration.  &quot;Hey, I must be really something, huh?  Let me be MORE of what they like so much&quot;.  

 I became narcissistic, NEEDING and EXPECTING the admiration from them.   Convinced that it was justified; Of course it had to be true, or why else would they say such wonderful things (and again they were good at it; no phoney flattery, no overdoing it; clever and subtle compliments and acknowledgements).
 
  In brief, in not too long a time, I became ADDICTED to love-bombing. A narcissist.!   With NO self awareness of being addicted to this, or how narcissistic it was to expect continual compliments, etc.

And people, I didn&#039;t even HAVE a lot of money, and out of a small circle of my small business related aquaintances NO ONE knew who I was. I certainly wasn&#039;t a celeb; no way was I a whale.   But I got the love bombing treatment anyway, continually, for the time I was there. 

So!   if the staff of my little org could consider ME love-bomb worthy, , can you just IMAGINE how clobbered over the head love-bombed REAL celebrities and whales are?  

Years later after I left I read online about how love-bombing of public by Scientology Class V org staff is just WHAT THEY DO!  

And when I read this I was able to have a good laugh (at myself, for believing my own publicity, LOL)  because by then I thoroughly understood that their &quot;affinity&quot; and professed admiration for me could (and did) magically evaporate into thin air once it was conclusively determined that I was &quot;disaffected&quot; and as such could not be &quot;handled&quot;.  

its like this: when you&#039;re IN, you&#039;re wonderful, and when you&#039;re out, you&#039;re not :)

I was glad to understand the phoniness of my relationship with and to them.   It was a big win, actually. A relief. I didn&#039;t have to feel guilty for leaving them.  I didn&#039;t have to worry that I had hurt them!

They had never really liked me.  Liking and admiring me were merely  part of their job.  Thir &quot;hat&quot;.

 Pretty cold blooded on their part but  I&#039;m glad I got to see it all for what it was.  I&#039;m  glad not to be a narcissist any more!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is possible that many Still Ins are not essentially narcissists.  But org staffs can and do foster narcissism in their publics.  For 25 years I was a public.  I was never staff.  The staff of my little org continually said wonderful things to me.  They noticed and admired  changes of wardrobe, make-up, jewelry, hair.  I was told I was smart; I was told I was stunning, frequently given little compliments about this or that.  I was assured that my presence at the org mattered a great deal; I was important, I was valuable.</p>
<p>This is called love-bombing.  Back then I was not familiar with this term.</p>
<p>I am, was not, nor have I ever been anything remotely close to being a celebrity.  But the staff of my little org treated me like one.  Truth.</p>
<p>Some more truth; love bombing can be addicting.  It was for me.  In a wholly unconscious way. </p>
<p>I had no clue what was going on.  No clue that the &#8220;flowing&#8221; of admiration to to me as a public Scientologist and member of their org was Standard Operating Procedure.  All I had to do was show up, and&#8230;wow!  I was SOMEBODY.  (They were good at this, by the way.  Never obvious.)</p>
<p>I liked it.  I began to believe it.  I wanted MORE of it. MORE praise, MORE admiration.  &#8220;Hey, I must be really something, huh?  Let me be MORE of what they like so much&#8221;.  </p>
<p> I became narcissistic, NEEDING and EXPECTING the admiration from them.   Convinced that it was justified; Of course it had to be true, or why else would they say such wonderful things (and again they were good at it; no phoney flattery, no overdoing it; clever and subtle compliments and acknowledgements).</p>
<p>  In brief, in not too long a time, I became ADDICTED to love-bombing. A narcissist.!   With NO self awareness of being addicted to this, or how narcissistic it was to expect continual compliments, etc.</p>
<p>And people, I didn&#8217;t even HAVE a lot of money, and out of a small circle of my small business related aquaintances NO ONE knew who I was. I certainly wasn&#8217;t a celeb; no way was I a whale.   But I got the love bombing treatment anyway, continually, for the time I was there. </p>
<p>So!   if the staff of my little org could consider ME love-bomb worthy, , can you just IMAGINE how clobbered over the head love-bombed REAL celebrities and whales are?  </p>
<p>Years later after I left I read online about how love-bombing of public by Scientology Class V org staff is just WHAT THEY DO!  </p>
<p>And when I read this I was able to have a good laugh (at myself, for believing my own publicity, LOL)  because by then I thoroughly understood that their &#8220;affinity&#8221; and professed admiration for me could (and did) magically evaporate into thin air once it was conclusively determined that I was &#8220;disaffected&#8221; and as such could not be &#8220;handled&#8221;.  </p>
<p>its like this: when you&#8217;re IN, you&#8217;re wonderful, and when you&#8217;re out, you&#8217;re not 🙂</p>
<p>I was glad to understand the phoniness of my relationship with and to them.   It was a big win, actually. A relief. I didn&#8217;t have to feel guilty for leaving them.  I didn&#8217;t have to worry that I had hurt them!</p>
<p>They had never really liked me.  Liking and admiring me were merely  part of their job.  Thir &#8220;hat&#8221;.</p>
<p> Pretty cold blooded on their part but  I&#8217;m glad I got to see it all for what it was.  I&#8217;m  glad not to be a narcissist any more!</p>
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