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		By: freespirit		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-its-all-new/#comment-115192</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2015 05:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Narconon is suppose to reverse the decay in society by addressing the scourge of drug use. The use of opiates in the US has increased from 25 million in the &#039;70&#039;s to 270 million in present day. And Narconon and Scn blow their horns to celebrate new facilities that take on 12 people. So much for addressing the drug scourge .....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Narconon is suppose to reverse the decay in society by addressing the scourge of drug use. The use of opiates in the US has increased from 25 million in the &#8217;70&#8217;s to 270 million in present day. And Narconon and Scn blow their horns to celebrate new facilities that take on 12 people. So much for addressing the drug scourge &#8230;..</p>
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		By: Espiando		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2015 01:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-its-all-new/#comment-114540&quot;&gt;thegman77&lt;/a&gt;.

Falling into the &quot;you&#039;ve never experienced it, so you can&#039;t comment about it&quot; fallacy is pretty pathetic from you.  You normally construct better arguments.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-its-all-new/#comment-114540">thegman77</a>.</p>
<p>Falling into the &#8220;you&#8217;ve never experienced it, so you can&#8217;t comment about it&#8221; fallacy is pretty pathetic from you.  You normally construct better arguments.</p>
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		By: RogerHornaday		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2015 23:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-its-all-new/#comment-114540&quot;&gt;thegman77&lt;/a&gt;.

I happen to believe there is value to metered therapy more or less in the fashion developed by Hubbard. The meter cuts out the aimless, meandering talk typical of psychotherapy sessions and directs the focus on the client&#039;s thoughts which the client either intentionally or unintentionally avoids.  Those are the unexamined beliefs, assumptions and conclusions that when examined, turn out to be false beliefs, assumptions and conclusions.  The result is the client realizes there is no problem where he believed, consciously or unconsciously, there was a problem.  That is experienced as a relief and sometimes euphoria. It is a temporary high but it can make the client more inclined to welcome his day to day reality rather than shirk from it. It can give one a &quot;fresh start&quot;. This therapy has its limitations. It doesn&#039;t produce supermen and it shouldn&#039;t constitute a way of life.  Although there haven&#039;t been any clinical trials, it&#039;s doubtful in my mind it can be effective on people who require drug therapy.  

The existence of &quot;engrams&quot; has, in my opinion, been demonstrated to be simply an interpretation of an experience that can be explained more thoroughly in conventional ways.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-its-all-new/#comment-114540">thegman77</a>.</p>
<p>I happen to believe there is value to metered therapy more or less in the fashion developed by Hubbard. The meter cuts out the aimless, meandering talk typical of psychotherapy sessions and directs the focus on the client&#8217;s thoughts which the client either intentionally or unintentionally avoids.  Those are the unexamined beliefs, assumptions and conclusions that when examined, turn out to be false beliefs, assumptions and conclusions.  The result is the client realizes there is no problem where he believed, consciously or unconsciously, there was a problem.  That is experienced as a relief and sometimes euphoria. It is a temporary high but it can make the client more inclined to welcome his day to day reality rather than shirk from it. It can give one a &#8220;fresh start&#8221;. This therapy has its limitations. It doesn&#8217;t produce supermen and it shouldn&#8217;t constitute a way of life.  Although there haven&#8217;t been any clinical trials, it&#8217;s doubtful in my mind it can be effective on people who require drug therapy.  </p>
<p>The existence of &#8220;engrams&#8221; has, in my opinion, been demonstrated to be simply an interpretation of an experience that can be explained more thoroughly in conventional ways.</p>
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		By: thegman77		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-its-all-new/#comment-114540</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2015 20:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-its-all-new/#comment-114489&quot;&gt;Espiando&lt;/a&gt;.

Different strokes for different folks, Espiando.  Having run out some engrams and seeing almost instant relief from what I&#039;d been auditing, I&#039;ll stick with the results of my &quot;bullshit&quot;.  If you ain&#039;t done it, you don&#039;t know.  And if meds do the trick for you, you&#039;ll get no complaint from me.  I prefer other resources.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-its-all-new/#comment-114489">Espiando</a>.</p>
<p>Different strokes for different folks, Espiando.  Having run out some engrams and seeing almost instant relief from what I&#8217;d been auditing, I&#8217;ll stick with the results of my &#8220;bullshit&#8221;.  If you ain&#8217;t done it, you don&#8217;t know.  And if meds do the trick for you, you&#8217;ll get no complaint from me.  I prefer other resources.</p>
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		By: Espiando		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2015 17:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-its-all-new/#comment-114416&quot;&gt;Joe Pendleton&lt;/a&gt;.

I went through talk therapy with shrinks, you know, real professionals in the subject.  And since engrams and BTs are bullshit, that&#039;s all auditing is, talk therapy.  And talk therapy didn&#039;t help me nearly as much as the meds I&#039;m taking.  So I&#039;m a Catholic priest talking about sex who has been involved in Romanesque orgies.  In other words, piss off.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-its-all-new/#comment-114416">Joe Pendleton</a>.</p>
<p>I went through talk therapy with shrinks, you know, real professionals in the subject.  And since engrams and BTs are bullshit, that&#8217;s all auditing is, talk therapy.  And talk therapy didn&#8217;t help me nearly as much as the meds I&#8217;m taking.  So I&#8217;m a Catholic priest talking about sex who has been involved in Romanesque orgies.  In other words, piss off.</p>
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		By: Ann B Watson		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-its-all-new/#comment-114452</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann B Watson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2015 14:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-its-all-new/#comment-114421&quot;&gt;The Oracle&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi The Oracle, I feel what you posted about Mike back in those days was spot on.From the instant I bumped into his blog, I felt here here was a huge spirit who was in forever it seems at the top of his game and look what he does for us now.Yes ARC FOR MANKIND- thank you he has that so strongly. Love U XXOO,Ann.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-its-all-new/#comment-114421">The Oracle</a>.</p>
<p>Hi The Oracle, I feel what you posted about Mike back in those days was spot on.From the instant I bumped into his blog, I felt here here was a huge spirit who was in forever it seems at the top of his game and look what he does for us now.Yes ARC FOR MANKIND- thank you he has that so strongly. Love U XXOO,Ann.</p>
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		By: Ann B Watson		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-its-all-new/#comment-114450</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann B Watson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2015 14:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-its-all-new/#comment-114424&quot;&gt;mike mike&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi mike mike, If your situation is dire, you may have to devise a way to leave. They said they would come after me too after I blew the Sea org many years ago. Some tried but I am here and they are still there or gone who knows where. Courage, Ann.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-its-all-new/#comment-114424">mike mike</a>.</p>
<p>Hi mike mike, If your situation is dire, you may have to devise a way to leave. They said they would come after me too after I blew the Sea org many years ago. Some tried but I am here and they are still there or gone who knows where. Courage, Ann.</p>
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		By: Ann B Watson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann B Watson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2015 14:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-its-all-new/#comment-114416&quot;&gt;Joe Pendleton&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Joe Pendleton, Thank you. ?Ann.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-its-all-new/#comment-114416">Joe Pendleton</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Joe Pendleton, Thank you. ?Ann.</p>
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		By: Ann B Watson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann B Watson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2015 14:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-its-all-new/#comment-114429&quot;&gt;Kemist&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Kemist, Your post really does occur. Thank you. Many years ago an Intel individual who at the time was in charge of my situation, got pissed that I would not agree to being a rock slamming DB etc. so he said, why don&#039;t you just go and do the R2.45 Rundown? So I said sir I know what that is and if does happen to me it will be murder. He was not a happy camper with me. I still do not see why scions go there when challenged either.Love, Ann.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-its-all-new/#comment-114429">Kemist</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Kemist, Your post really does occur. Thank you. Many years ago an Intel individual who at the time was in charge of my situation, got pissed that I would not agree to being a rock slamming DB etc. so he said, why don&#8217;t you just go and do the R2.45 Rundown? So I said sir I know what that is and if does happen to me it will be murder. He was not a happy camper with me. I still do not see why scions go there when challenged either.Love, Ann.</p>
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		By: Robin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2015 14:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-its-all-new/#comment-114424&quot;&gt;mike mike&lt;/a&gt;.

Just get on a bus, Gus; make a new plan Stan ... there must be 50 ways.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-its-all-new/#comment-114424">mike mike</a>.</p>
<p>Just get on a bus, Gus; make a new plan Stan &#8230; there must be 50 ways.</p>
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