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		By: Nancy Vasta		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2021 09:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I used to be an alcoholic but quit on my own after my mother passed away in 1989.I just suddenly realized that my drinking helped me with absolutely nothing so I stopped.I never did drugs.And if I had a medical problem,none of my doctors ever gave me painkillers of any kind.I just had surgery several weeks ago and received no pain relief for it.I was fully awake for the entire procedure.My husband thinks that because I am so thin,my doctors are hesitant to give me anesthesia.Fortunately the surgery went well,even though I cried all through it.I congratulate all those who by shear strength of will,quit alcohol and narcotics.It is not easy.But be wary of any program supported by Scientology.For those who need help,seek out a therapist or psychiatrist with a genuine medical degree.Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to be an alcoholic but quit on my own after my mother passed away in 1989.I just suddenly realized that my drinking helped me with absolutely nothing so I stopped.I never did drugs.And if I had a medical problem,none of my doctors ever gave me painkillers of any kind.I just had surgery several weeks ago and received no pain relief for it.I was fully awake for the entire procedure.My husband thinks that because I am so thin,my doctors are hesitant to give me anesthesia.Fortunately the surgery went well,even though I cried all through it.I congratulate all those who by shear strength of will,quit alcohol and narcotics.It is not easy.But be wary of any program supported by Scientology.For those who need help,seek out a therapist or psychiatrist with a genuine medical degree.Thank you.</p>
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		By: Shelby		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2021 02:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-ojai-failing/#comment-375457&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

Absolutely, they would be, hopefully! I went to a sliding scale fee place that in total cost me about $3,900 and I was there in inpatient treatment for 13 months. It changed my life, and I am grateful to be here because of it. Damn psychologists, knowing what they are doing through years of evidence based research, changing my life <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />. I now work at the same treatment center and am going to school to become a social worker. 

My story aside, these insane amounts of money are not what shows the efficacy of a treatment, it is the people whp work there that truly care.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-ojai-failing/#comment-375457">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>Absolutely, they would be, hopefully! I went to a sliding scale fee place that in total cost me about $3,900 and I was there in inpatient treatment for 13 months. It changed my life, and I am grateful to be here because of it. Damn psychologists, knowing what they are doing through years of evidence based research, changing my life 😂😂. I now work at the same treatment center and am going to school to become a social worker. </p>
<p>My story aside, these insane amounts of money are not what shows the efficacy of a treatment, it is the people whp work there that truly care.</p>
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		By: Shelby		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2021 02:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-ojai-failing/#comment-375456&quot;&gt;Mary Kahn&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you so much Mary <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />  Sending all my love your way. Happy New Year]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-ojai-failing/#comment-375456">Mary Kahn</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you so much Mary ❤❤❤  Sending all my love your way. Happy New Year</p>
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		By: chuckbeattyx75to03		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2021 02:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-ojai-failing/#comment-375454&quot;&gt;chuckbeattyx75to03&lt;/a&gt;.

Gerald Posner commented prior to 1997 that he would like to do a book on Scientology, I doubt he wishes to do so today.

In March 2030Joni Siegel interviews Gerald on her Addition Podcast, about his book &quot;Pharma&quot;.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtkxjuczWtk

I highly doubt that he will be writing a book on Scientology.   (If anyone ought write another book, it&#039;d be Tony Ortega, if you ask me, not sure there is a market for another book though.). 

He sounds no way likely by this interview with Joni Siegel, of taking up Scientology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-ojai-failing/#comment-375454">chuckbeattyx75to03</a>.</p>
<p>Gerald Posner commented prior to 1997 that he would like to do a book on Scientology, I doubt he wishes to do so today.</p>
<p>In March 2030Joni Siegel interviews Gerald on her Addition Podcast, about his book &#8220;Pharma&#8221;.<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtkxjuczWtk" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtkxjuczWtk</a></p>
<p>I highly doubt that he will be writing a book on Scientology.   (If anyone ought write another book, it&#8217;d be Tony Ortega, if you ask me, not sure there is a market for another book though.). </p>
<p>He sounds no way likely by this interview with Joni Siegel, of taking up Scientology.</p>
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		By: Roger Larsson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2020 13:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-ojai-failing/#comment-375331&quot;&gt;ISNOINews&lt;/a&gt;.

To throw pearls to svines gives the pearls a life in the mud. Be careful to give  it  to professionals in Candid camera and to others in the media circus.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-ojai-failing/#comment-375331">ISNOINews</a>.</p>
<p>To throw pearls to svines gives the pearls a life in the mud. Be careful to give  it  to professionals in Candid camera and to others in the media circus.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2020 13:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-ojai-failing/#comment-375380&quot;&gt;Shelby&lt;/a&gt;.

An internet search of &quot;Narconon&quot; immediately shows its link to scn so most people would be forewarned. I guess a limited number of people or their insurance companies willing to pay $30,000 would keep the doors open.

Shelby - Keep coming back ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-ojai-failing/#comment-375380">Shelby</a>.</p>
<p>An internet search of &#8220;Narconon&#8221; immediately shows its link to scn so most people would be forewarned. I guess a limited number of people or their insurance companies willing to pay $30,000 would keep the doors open.</p>
<p>Shelby &#8211; Keep coming back 😉</p>
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		By: Mary Kahn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2020 13:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-ojai-failing/#comment-375380&quot;&gt;Shelby&lt;/a&gt;.

Congratulations Shelby!  Six years sober is quite and accomplishment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/narconon-ojai-failing/#comment-375380">Shelby</a>.</p>
<p>Congratulations Shelby!  Six years sober is quite and accomplishment.</p>
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		By: chuckbeattyx75to03		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2020 12:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On third thought, maybe this gratuitous mention of Posner&#039;s name, in some OSA person&#039;s wishful thinking dream, or a dream of one of the OT PR Scientologists to get Posner to do his book on Scientology, and thus count in on their statistic of trying to influence society to see right about Scientology by thinking they are getting serious reporter journalists to come take a look at Scientology and do the right thing and mention all the good that Scientology is doing in the world.

But will Posner bite and edit down the type of book he surely otherwise would write, if he were granted full access to CST/ARchives full trove of Hubbard&#039;s private writings that aren&#039;t public?

Of course not.   Only Tony Ortega is really up on all things Scientology, and Posner, were he even to bite and be swayed to start writing his book on Scientology, would be forced to quit that book, due to the omissions in that book which would even repel him from leaving out, should Posner try to gain Scientology&#039;s continued support for the full length of the full book project.

I wonder if Posner is considered maybe the best candidate to do a repeat of the Omar Garrison effort book that got shelved.

Anyways, the big gratuitous mention of Posner, is what sticks way way out and needs checking into.

I hope Tony Ortega asks Posner if Posner&#039;s got an eye on still doing a book on Scientology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On third thought, maybe this gratuitous mention of Posner&#8217;s name, in some OSA person&#8217;s wishful thinking dream, or a dream of one of the OT PR Scientologists to get Posner to do his book on Scientology, and thus count in on their statistic of trying to influence society to see right about Scientology by thinking they are getting serious reporter journalists to come take a look at Scientology and do the right thing and mention all the good that Scientology is doing in the world.</p>
<p>But will Posner bite and edit down the type of book he surely otherwise would write, if he were granted full access to CST/ARchives full trove of Hubbard&#8217;s private writings that aren&#8217;t public?</p>
<p>Of course not.   Only Tony Ortega is really up on all things Scientology, and Posner, were he even to bite and be swayed to start writing his book on Scientology, would be forced to quit that book, due to the omissions in that book which would even repel him from leaving out, should Posner try to gain Scientology&#8217;s continued support for the full length of the full book project.</p>
<p>I wonder if Posner is considered maybe the best candidate to do a repeat of the Omar Garrison effort book that got shelved.</p>
<p>Anyways, the big gratuitous mention of Posner, is what sticks way way out and needs checking into.</p>
<p>I hope Tony Ortega asks Posner if Posner&#8217;s got an eye on still doing a book on Scientology.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2020 02:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://books.google.com/books?id=02XlneXkr2EC&#038;pg=PA61&#038;lpg=PA61&#038;dq=gerald+posner+is+he+a+scientologist&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=f323-2u_RV&#038;sig=ACfU3U3J-6Wa2KJgSqrdZRU-ZQ3C00s12Q&#038;hl=en&#038;sa=X&#038;ved=2ahUKEwjD9IiWlfftAhWB2FkKHWCjD5QQ6AEwCHoECAkQAg#v=onepage&#038;q=gerald%20posner%20is%20he%20a%20scientologist&#038;f=false

If you scroll up to page 52, Gerald Posner says he&#039;d love to do a book on Scientology.

Question Mike,

Would OSA have done their homework and be on  guard to Posner, or is OSA clueless to what Posner might mean?

Scientology lets in wolf reporters in sheep&#039;s clothes, time and time again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=02XlneXkr2EC&#038;pg=PA61&#038;lpg=PA61&#038;dq=gerald+posner+is+he+a+scientologist&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=f323-2u_RV&#038;sig=ACfU3U3J-6Wa2KJgSqrdZRU-ZQ3C00s12Q&#038;hl=en&#038;sa=X&#038;ved=2ahUKEwjD9IiWlfftAhWB2FkKHWCjD5QQ6AEwCHoECAkQAg#v=onepage&#038;q=gerald%20posner%20is%20he%20a%20scientologist&#038;f=false" rel="nofollow ugc">https://books.google.com/books?id=02XlneXkr2EC&#038;pg=PA61&#038;lpg=PA61&#038;dq=gerald+posner+is+he+a+scientologist&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=f323-2u_RV&#038;sig=ACfU3U3J-6Wa2KJgSqrdZRU-ZQ3C00s12Q&#038;hl=en&#038;sa=X&#038;ved=2ahUKEwjD9IiWlfftAhWB2FkKHWCjD5QQ6AEwCHoECAkQAg#v=onepage&#038;q=gerald%20posner%20is%20he%20a%20scientologist&#038;f=false</a></p>
<p>If you scroll up to page 52, Gerald Posner says he&#8217;d love to do a book on Scientology.</p>
<p>Question Mike,</p>
<p>Would OSA have done their homework and be on  guard to Posner, or is OSA clueless to what Posner might mean?</p>
<p>Scientology lets in wolf reporters in sheep&#8217;s clothes, time and time again.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2020 02:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re Gerald Posner

I suspect if he is doing his deep research into Scientology, then he might be in his reporter buddy buddy phrase, and later he&#039;ll move more into the cast aside from Scientology&#039;s help phrase, later, as he researches and seeks access more and more.

There really seems to be a reporter/author &quot;cycle of action&quot; relationship when professional journalists writers and media first meet up with Scientology, and then at some point their access and friendly helpful relationship sours and abruptly ends.

Here&#039;s a link to Posner saying:

&quot;..., I would love to research a book on terrorism, about the Iranian financing of terror groups, and I would love to do a book on Scientology......&quot;

Good luck, if he&#039;s in progress.   It&#039;ll take a new bit of guile to win over the OSA PR people who allow him access, and who will pull the plug on helping him, when he goes against Scn in any serious way.

It&#039;s from a &quot;straight talk&quot; talk of him

https://books.google.com/books?id=02XlneXkr2EC&#038;pg=PA61&#038;lpg=PA61&#038;dq=gerald+posner+is+he+a+scientologist&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=f323-2u_RV&#038;sig=ACfU3U3J-6Wa2KJgSqrdZRU-ZQ3C00s12Q&#038;hl=en&#038;sa=X&#038;ved=2ahUKEwjD9IiWlfftAhWB2FkKHWCjD5QQ6AEwCHoECAkQAg#v=onepage&#038;q=gerald%20posner%20is%20he%20a%20scientologist&#038;f=false]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Gerald Posner</p>
<p>I suspect if he is doing his deep research into Scientology, then he might be in his reporter buddy buddy phrase, and later he&#8217;ll move more into the cast aside from Scientology&#8217;s help phrase, later, as he researches and seeks access more and more.</p>
<p>There really seems to be a reporter/author &#8220;cycle of action&#8221; relationship when professional journalists writers and media first meet up with Scientology, and then at some point their access and friendly helpful relationship sours and abruptly ends.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a link to Posner saying:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;, I would love to research a book on terrorism, about the Iranian financing of terror groups, and I would love to do a book on Scientology&#8230;&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Good luck, if he&#8217;s in progress.   It&#8217;ll take a new bit of guile to win over the OSA PR people who allow him access, and who will pull the plug on helping him, when he goes against Scn in any serious way.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s from a &#8220;straight talk&#8221; talk of him</p>
<p><a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=02XlneXkr2EC&#038;pg=PA61&#038;lpg=PA61&#038;dq=gerald+posner+is+he+a+scientologist&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=f323-2u_RV&#038;sig=ACfU3U3J-6Wa2KJgSqrdZRU-ZQ3C00s12Q&#038;hl=en&#038;sa=X&#038;ved=2ahUKEwjD9IiWlfftAhWB2FkKHWCjD5QQ6AEwCHoECAkQAg#v=onepage&#038;q=gerald%20posner%20is%20he%20a%20scientologist&#038;f=false" rel="nofollow ugc">https://books.google.com/books?id=02XlneXkr2EC&#038;pg=PA61&#038;lpg=PA61&#038;dq=gerald+posner+is+he+a+scientologist&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=f323-2u_RV&#038;sig=ACfU3U3J-6Wa2KJgSqrdZRU-ZQ3C00s12Q&#038;hl=en&#038;sa=X&#038;ved=2ahUKEwjD9IiWlfftAhWB2FkKHWCjD5QQ6AEwCHoECAkQAg#v=onepage&#038;q=gerald%20posner%20is%20he%20a%20scientologist&#038;f=false</a></p>
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