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		By: Scientology Shriveling		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-churches-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-205836</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scientology Shriveling]]></dc:creator>
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		By: Flexible Flyer		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-churches-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-562</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Flexible Flyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2013 20:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-churches-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-525&quot;&gt;Lewis Clark&lt;/a&gt;.

Hubbard behaved as wealthy and powerful males always have. Wives? They might trade up to a younger one. If another alpha male threatens his position, he goes into a games condition and tries to destroy them or offs them in some way. It happens everyday in corporate and business arenas if your in a position of power. You do not live in the same world as them!

Like Heff has a legion of airheads in his mansion so hubbard had a ship of girls dressed in hot pants. Granted, not appropriate today but that&#039;s not the point. He did it because he can.

Whose more attractive? Those who get into the CMO or those who enter the TTC? Do the media handlers and marketeers for AT&#038;T tend to look like the R&#038;D staff? Trust me, they don&#039;t.

As far as research goes. Edison, like Hubbard, was the research leader and put it all together. Each of these men had teams working on a specific problem. Lots of info on the web about the research at Saint Hill.

My opinion, respectfully]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-churches-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-525">Lewis Clark</a>.</p>
<p>Hubbard behaved as wealthy and powerful males always have. Wives? They might trade up to a younger one. If another alpha male threatens his position, he goes into a games condition and tries to destroy them or offs them in some way. It happens everyday in corporate and business arenas if your in a position of power. You do not live in the same world as them!</p>
<p>Like Heff has a legion of airheads in his mansion so hubbard had a ship of girls dressed in hot pants. Granted, not appropriate today but that&#8217;s not the point. He did it because he can.</p>
<p>Whose more attractive? Those who get into the CMO or those who enter the TTC? Do the media handlers and marketeers for AT&amp;T tend to look like the R&amp;D staff? Trust me, they don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>As far as research goes. Edison, like Hubbard, was the research leader and put it all together. Each of these men had teams working on a specific problem. Lots of info on the web about the research at Saint Hill.</p>
<p>My opinion, respectfully</p>
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		By: Lurkness		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lurkness]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2013 01:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not sure if you had seen this 2010 CO$ document breaking down which buildings purcased by IAS v. Public.  From Wilfried Handl&quot;s sight in Austria.  Thought it might help with your work.

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&#038;tl=en&#038;js=n&#038;prev=_t&#038;hl=de&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;eotf=1&#038;u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wilfriedhandl.com%2Fblog%2F2012%2F06%2Fdas-scientologische-paradoxon-mietruckstande-und-%25e2%2580%259eideale-org%2F]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if you had seen this 2010 CO$ document breaking down which buildings purcased by IAS v. Public.  From Wilfried Handl&#8221;s sight in Austria.  Thought it might help with your work.</p>
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		By: Obnosis		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-churches-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-559</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Obnosis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2013 01:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does &quot;management&quot; still send out the weekly birthday game telex? It used to get posted for anyone to view, and it listed all the orgs worldwide and their standings. I remember in the mid 80&#039;s there were 165 orgs. That is of course counting a Day and Foundation org using the same building as two orgs. I didn&#039;t realize it shrank to 136 in &#039;93. Is that counting Day and Foundations separately?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does &#8220;management&#8221; still send out the weekly birthday game telex? It used to get posted for anyone to view, and it listed all the orgs worldwide and their standings. I remember in the mid 80&#8217;s there were 165 orgs. That is of course counting a Day and Foundation org using the same building as two orgs. I didn&#8217;t realize it shrank to 136 in &#8217;93. Is that counting Day and Foundations separately?</p>
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		By: Andy Porter		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-churches-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-558</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy Porter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2013 00:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-churches-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-553&quot;&gt;joemach&lt;/a&gt;.

Joe, Of course I have asked myself that same question many, many times. Certainly Family and the threat of disconnection were part of the glue, the urge to curry favor with higher-ups was a part. Then there is/was the threat of &quot;never being able to go up the bridge&quot;. As for me, the rest was just my propensity to make excuses for how bad it all was, and hope beyond hope that it would change. And I admit to the crazy idea that somehow I could help change it all...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-churches-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-553">joemach</a>.</p>
<p>Joe, Of course I have asked myself that same question many, many times. Certainly Family and the threat of disconnection were part of the glue, the urge to curry favor with higher-ups was a part. Then there is/was the threat of &#8220;never being able to go up the bridge&#8221;. As for me, the rest was just my propensity to make excuses for how bad it all was, and hope beyond hope that it would change. And I admit to the crazy idea that somehow I could help change it all&#8230;</p>
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		By: Andy Porter		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-churches-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-557</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy Porter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2013 00:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-churches-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-531&quot;&gt;I Went Clear As Soon As I Left The Church&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey I went Clear...
Sorry I missed you! We could have had fun suppressing, er, helping each other!!!! What posts did you have there, at the org?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-churches-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-531">I Went Clear As Soon As I Left The Church</a>.</p>
<p>Hey I went Clear&#8230;<br />
Sorry I missed you! We could have had fun suppressing, er, helping each other!!!! What posts did you have there, at the org?</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-churches-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-556</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2013 23:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-churches-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-521&quot;&gt;Kate&lt;/a&gt;.

Sorry-Marty&#039;s blog...I&#039;m sure you know what I mean:)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-churches-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-521">Kate</a>.</p>
<p>Sorry-Marty&#8217;s blog&#8230;I&#8217;m sure you know what I mean:)</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-churches-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-555</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2013 23:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-churches-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-521&quot;&gt;Kate&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve been reading the blog for a long time. But I haven&#039;t posted yet. Years ago I donated money for that very &quot;ideal&quot; org, but in almost 15 years it&#039;s still not built ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-churches-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-521">Kate</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been reading the blog for a long time. But I haven&#8217;t posted yet. Years ago I donated money for that very &#8220;ideal&#8221; org, but in almost 15 years it&#8217;s still not built 😉</p>
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		By: EnthralledObserver		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-churches-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-554</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EnthralledObserver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2013 23:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-churches-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-541&quot;&gt;EnthralledObserver&lt;/a&gt;.

Ahh... truth... like a good cup of strong coffee.  I&#039;m definitely a fan of the truth. :D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-churches-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-541">EnthralledObserver</a>.</p>
<p>Ahh&#8230; truth&#8230; like a good cup of strong coffee.  I&#8217;m definitely a fan of the truth. 😀</p>
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		By: joemach		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joemach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-churches-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-520&quot;&gt;tony dephillips&lt;/a&gt;.

Sounds like my time on staff at Wash DC. 80-82.  Now reading your story makes me wonder why I hung around so long.  I was able to re-live and blow some charge from my time on staff while reading your story.  Thanks for that.  You helped me look at the insanity from an exterior viewpoint.  What the hell was wrong with me?  Why did I put up with all the violations of LRH?  I wonder if we as thetans actually like traps?  Maybe that is how we got into this mess in the first place.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-churches-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-520">tony dephillips</a>.</p>
<p>Sounds like my time on staff at Wash DC. 80-82.  Now reading your story makes me wonder why I hung around so long.  I was able to re-live and blow some charge from my time on staff while reading your story.  Thanks for that.  You helped me look at the insanity from an exterior viewpoint.  What the hell was wrong with me?  Why did I put up with all the violations of LRH?  I wonder if we as thetans actually like traps?  Maybe that is how we got into this mess in the first place.</p>
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