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		By: MamaKath		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-haven-ideal-org/#comment-543250</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MamaKath]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2023 20:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-haven-ideal-org/#comment-516543&quot;&gt;safetyguy&lt;/a&gt;.

At this point, being someone who travels through Westville pretty regularly, it really does need to come down. The roof has been leaking for years. The parking lot is nothing but cracked pavement. Broken windows. They put an ugly chainlink fence around it to try to keep vandals out. The rest of that part of Westville is cute little boutiques, restaurants and galleries. The old Masonic Hall/Hallocks store is now just a huge eyesore. From what I have learned over the past few years about Scientology they&#039;re just going to let it continue to deteriorate. I wonder if the business owners have teamed with the New Haven Chamber of Commerce, city Economic Development office and Westville organizations to sue Scientology to demolish the building, clear the property, sell it for what I am sure will be a loss and leave New Haven. As someone posted earlier, maybe Scientology gets sued when a pedestrian gets injured from falling due to snow and ice on the sidewalk.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-haven-ideal-org/#comment-516543">safetyguy</a>.</p>
<p>At this point, being someone who travels through Westville pretty regularly, it really does need to come down. The roof has been leaking for years. The parking lot is nothing but cracked pavement. Broken windows. They put an ugly chainlink fence around it to try to keep vandals out. The rest of that part of Westville is cute little boutiques, restaurants and galleries. The old Masonic Hall/Hallocks store is now just a huge eyesore. From what I have learned over the past few years about Scientology they&#8217;re just going to let it continue to deteriorate. I wonder if the business owners have teamed with the New Haven Chamber of Commerce, city Economic Development office and Westville organizations to sue Scientology to demolish the building, clear the property, sell it for what I am sure will be a loss and leave New Haven. As someone posted earlier, maybe Scientology gets sued when a pedestrian gets injured from falling due to snow and ice on the sidewalk.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2023 17:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-haven-ideal-org/#comment-518825&quot;&gt;Mick&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Mick. I always enjoy seeing you comment here. It&#039;s a little sign you are doing OK! :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-haven-ideal-org/#comment-518825">Mick</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Mick. I always enjoy seeing you comment here. It&#8217;s a little sign you are doing OK! 🙂</p>
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		By: Mick		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2023 13:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-haven-ideal-org/#comment-517460&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Gawd. You know what Mike? I am torn between despising the little prat and being disappointed all at the same time. I know I should be probably be content that he is busy fecking it up and thus ensuring that this odious thing will fester and die, but I get kind of pissed off at the waste of such good people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-haven-ideal-org/#comment-517460">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Gawd. You know what Mike? I am torn between despising the little prat and being disappointed all at the same time. I know I should be probably be content that he is busy fecking it up and thus ensuring that this odious thing will fester and die, but I get kind of pissed off at the waste of such good people.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-haven-ideal-org/#comment-516996&quot;&gt;andy S&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes!  That film.  Perfect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-haven-ideal-org/#comment-516996">andy S</a>.</p>
<p>Yes!  That film.  Perfect.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-haven-ideal-org/#comment-517005&quot;&gt;Alcoboy&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, I agree with that assessment of the Amish and as well I can definitely picture the Dwarf mocking and degrading them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-haven-ideal-org/#comment-517005">Alcoboy</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, I agree with that assessment of the Amish and as well I can definitely picture the Dwarf mocking and degrading them.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2023 11:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-haven-ideal-org/#comment-517433&quot;&gt;Mick Wenlock&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey Mick. He doesn&#039;t. He pretends this doesn&#039;t exist. And to all intents and purposes, that is true. The OEC Vols have been out of print for more than a decade. He sold his version of the the building strategy when he announced he had done an evaluation and found &quot;the Why&quot; that orgs were not set up to deliver &quot;all of scientology&quot;, just like if an auditing room had no EMeter and chair... He&#039;s been selling it as the &quot;ideal org&quot; program ever since and what Hubbard says about things is only relevant and important if he says it is. Ironically. the &quot;Ideal Org&quot; PL that his whole schtick is named after, contradicts his program in almost every p[paragraph.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-haven-ideal-org/#comment-517433">Mick Wenlock</a>.</p>
<p>Hey Mick. He doesn&#8217;t. He pretends this doesn&#8217;t exist. And to all intents and purposes, that is true. The OEC Vols have been out of print for more than a decade. He sold his version of the the building strategy when he announced he had done an evaluation and found &#8220;the Why&#8221; that orgs were not set up to deliver &#8220;all of scientology&#8221;, just like if an auditing room had no EMeter and chair&#8230; He&#8217;s been selling it as the &#8220;ideal org&#8221; program ever since and what Hubbard says about things is only relevant and important if he says it is. Ironically. the &#8220;Ideal Org&#8221; PL that his whole schtick is named after, contradicts his program in almost every p[paragraph.</p>
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		By: Mick Wenlock		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2023 03:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike - I am intrigued as to how DM explains his way around

&quot;HCO PL of 23 September 1970 &quot;Quarters,
Policy Regarding - Historical&quot; Copyright © 1970 by L. Ron Hubbard&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8211; I am intrigued as to how DM explains his way around</p>
<p>&#8220;HCO PL of 23 September 1970 &#8220;Quarters,<br />
Policy Regarding &#8211; Historical&#8221; Copyright © 1970 by L. Ron Hubbard&#8221;</p>
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		By: Alcoboy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-haven-ideal-org/#comment-517005</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2023 21:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-haven-ideal-org/#comment-516928&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

I had read that he was born in South Philly and Ronnie Senior took the family to Berks County for a time. As for the Lancaster Amish, they are gentle people who pretty much keep to themselves and limit their interaction with outsiders. Little Davey is such an SP that he probably made fun of the Amish (until Ronnie Junior slapped him real good and told him to knock it off) and probably saw them as weak and pathetic. 
Just thought of something. Do you think he ever paired up with Danny Bonaduce? He&#039;s also from Philly, I believe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-haven-ideal-org/#comment-516928">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>I had read that he was born in South Philly and Ronnie Senior took the family to Berks County for a time. As for the Lancaster Amish, they are gentle people who pretty much keep to themselves and limit their interaction with outsiders. Little Davey is such an SP that he probably made fun of the Amish (until Ronnie Junior slapped him real good and told him to knock it off) and probably saw them as weak and pathetic.<br />
Just thought of something. Do you think he ever paired up with Danny Bonaduce? He&#8217;s also from Philly, I believe.</p>
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		By: andy S		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andy S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2023 19:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-haven-ideal-org/#comment-516894&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

They should build a wall around cult HQ in Clearwater and tell them to stew in their own juices. The film Escape from New York comes to mind.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-haven-ideal-org/#comment-516894">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>They should build a wall around cult HQ in Clearwater and tell them to stew in their own juices. The film Escape from New York comes to mind.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2023 04:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-haven-ideal-org/#comment-516907&quot;&gt;Alcoboy&lt;/a&gt;.

Alco, no way this little beast is from the Berks :) If he even traveled briefly thru their areas nothing about the Amish rubbed off on him. Their manners, their simple, rustic, serviceable taste have its own elegance.

As for Tiny&#039;s taste, OMG.  I mean,  just look back at his Event sets!

Fake pillars, fluffy white clouds, positioning him as some kind of cheesy, suntanned pompadoured Second Coming.  Gilt everywhere, gold leaf glinting  or silver shining everywhere;  crimson and della robia blue everywhere ...this is what he likes!

if a low level Long Island mobster had a nightmare about being alive back in the 15th century in one of the  Borgia family&#039;s  palaces, it would look like David Miscavige&#039;s Int Event sets.  

The worst taste - the WORST.  The only places I know of decorated in worse taste are the public areas of Trump Tower in Manhattan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-haven-ideal-org/#comment-516907">Alcoboy</a>.</p>
<p>Alco, no way this little beast is from the Berks 🙂 If he even traveled briefly thru their areas nothing about the Amish rubbed off on him. Their manners, their simple, rustic, serviceable taste have its own elegance.</p>
<p>As for Tiny&#8217;s taste, OMG.  I mean,  just look back at his Event sets!</p>
<p>Fake pillars, fluffy white clouds, positioning him as some kind of cheesy, suntanned pompadoured Second Coming.  Gilt everywhere, gold leaf glinting  or silver shining everywhere;  crimson and della robia blue everywhere &#8230;this is what he likes!</p>
<p>if a low level Long Island mobster had a nightmare about being alive back in the 15th century in one of the  Borgia family&#8217;s  palaces, it would look like David Miscavige&#8217;s Int Event sets.  </p>
<p>The worst taste &#8211; the WORST.  The only places I know of decorated in worse taste are the public areas of Trump Tower in Manhattan.</p>
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