Of course it will Good People. Nazism still exists. Long after its original victims have been mostly laid to rest. I’ll be around 100 years from now too and some will hang Hitler’s pics on their wall. Just as they will with Hubbard. I don’t know why that is significant or what your point is.

Statpush it was that way in the 70’s I know. And that was in the Bay Area where, as you know, the atmosphere is NOT conservative.

So, maybe always…

Aaron why would people taking classes upstairs be the reason for the CoS to be dying?

I forgot to add there was no receptionist and no staff anywhere I the org on the main floor where raw public would walk in IF they decided to check it out. No one to receive them.

How many people did you see on course, Aaron, including you? Are you Aaron Gluck by the way?

That is because everyone is upstairs taking classes. Including me!

Powerful statement, Aquamarine.

I had to go to a place across from the Pasadena Ideal Org the other day. I was able to look in the front door and back door (the two different entrances into the org), and through the windows both coming and going. So that makes a minimum of 4 searching glances. There was no one, NO ONE in the org visible from the back or front. No one inside the Ideal Org. The only person I saw was one lone body router out front who was passing out promo. The promo didn’t have the Scn name on it, but was just an invitation to see the movie and get a stress test. She put it in my hand without a word. She seemed solid and down tone. Later, on the way back, she sat inside alone at a desk and a man had taken her place outside passing out promo. When I looked at her I perceived hopelessness and failure and resignation. I guess effete would be the word for it. The church is dying and its palaces are empty.

Amway did the same thing. Their PR was bad and people ridiculed them all the time, so they changed their name. I forget what the new name was. But my friend who had been in Amway leaned on me to buy some stuff from the “new” company and only later reluctantly admitted it was the same company but different name.

Roan, you are incorrect. The ad doesn’t pitch psychological counseling (YES, the words used matter) and, any church can offer counseling. No license needed. In all 50 States.

As far as I know, there is no such thing as a “mission holder”. They were all declared in 1982 as the czerch stole all their funds at one time and declared most of them for resisting. Back then, a “mission” was a “franchise” and the mission holder was a franchisee, paying 10% weekly of any income. Back earlier, the mission system fed tens of thousands of very satisfied individuals on to the orgs. Once the system was destroyed, the czerch began running them directly and the entire system became corrupt. I left shortly thereafter, the mission I’d been working in closed its doors and the tidal wave of outbound scientologists took place, many thousands of us.