Nope, “Cus” is not who we know…

Typical clam behaviour…

mwestern, I was not following politics and/or current events very much back in the day when Ukraine as you say butchered 14,000 people. Back then I was very much “in” Scientology and as such avoiding the news as much as possible. In order to opine on this, in order to respond to you in any intelligent way I would have to educate myself on this issue. For now I will say that what invariably causes me outrage is INJUSTICE – demonstrative injustice, no matter the perpetrator, no matter the victim.

I’ve never been an “all right, all wrong, all good all evil” type of analyzer.

I believe that we, each of us, operate on a mixture of good helpful cause/good helpful effect AND bad harmful cause/bad harmful effect.

I do always believe that however it is justified, injustice against others perpetrates more injustice, and that injustice is the result of bad cause and/or bad effect which generates more bad cause and more bad effect, etc., and that at some point the buck has to stop so that injustice stops being created!

To illustrate this point, let’s say a parent is abusing, physically, his or her own child AND also abuses the elderly parent possibly now dependent and helpless. Well that’s awful and harmful and then one let’s say finds that this parent in his or her childhood was also physically abused with the abuse justified, and then that parent’s parent was abusive in the same way…you get the idea. At some point someone in this line has to effectively decide that “the buck stops here”. Easier said than done, right?

Look, I’ll read up on what you illustrated as the butchering of 14K people and get back to you. Thanks.

Claiming it was an “unprovoked attack” ignores history, that’s all. WADR, where was your outrage when Ukraine started butchering the people of Donbass in 2014? 14,000 deaths but it’s only now that people seem to have an opinion? Could it be that you are being conditioned?

Spot on, Jere!

Actually, I think they have all the morals and conscience of the board of Goldman Sachs.

mwestern, you’re preaching to the choir with me! It is a highly complex issue which is all the more reason why killing one another will never solve anything while at the same time creating more problems and making an already long term complex issue even more complex! Wherever the fault in communications breakdown can be placed “necessitating” the annihilation of one another as a remedy for achieving one’s aims as individuals, groups or nations, I think it is beyond tragic not to mention barbaric. I’m all for talking things out, working things out peacefully, civilly, etc., with communication!

Well,… if you drop them as bundles in large boxes from an airplane, and one happens to hit him… That would probably cure him, and very effectively so!
^_^

… While leeches actually do have *some* medicinal uses…
Also, they let themselves drop off when they’re full, and don’t eat again for a long time. I haven’t heard of regges doing that…
(Lol)
:p

I was referring to a philosophical rather than political division. Many people honestly believe humanity is doomed because of humans using fossil fuels.

Believe it or not there is science which says humanity is not doomed from global warming. Here’s a site which summarizes 26 different climate change issues from polar bears to sea level rise and so on. The home page briefly summarizes them favoring the arguments against catastrophic climate change but if i you click on any one it expands to include why each is believed to support catastrophic global warming.

https://everythingclimate.org/