I understand what you’re trying to say WhiteStar but your logic is very faulty, or perhaps you’re missing data. What is supposed to happen in an auditing session is a cognitive experience, meaning, the person realizes something new to him/her, relating to whatever mental charge was removed in the session. This can also happen when studying true data. These are generically referred to as wins. Have you ever experienced this? Would you challenge say, a born again Christian, to prove to you that their win was valid? I don’t agree that a win, undefined is not a win, these are personal and often esoteric things that are hard to put into words. They are also, no one else’s business. I think it’s very arrogant to criticize others wins because I am not in their shoes, I don’t live their life or confront their challenges. It’s about respecting someone else’s unique life. Critical thinking is something everyone should do always, in everyday life, and has nothing to do with thought stopping. I feel that real Scn bolsters thinking skills because it removes barriers to thinking clearly, this is what it should do. Thought stopping, is where people have been abused or threatened, into actually stopping themselves from engaging in the critical thinking process. The unsafe and abusive environment that has developed and grown in the rcs is responsible for this hostile environment, but the individual is responsible for stopping his/her own thoughts. This is a slippery slope of lowering and lowering your perceptions, until you’re just part of the hive as the rcs has become. A famous LRH quote is that “What is true for you is what is true for you. When you’ve lost that you’ve lost everything”. This quote is true for me and I have refused to not apply it, to my Scn or other life, and that’s why I’m not longer supportive of the rcs. Critical thinking is in my dna, and I will never give it up for any reason, ever. When a Scngt says “don’t evaluate”, it has a specific meaning which is, don’t tell another person what to think or decide, about their own mind or their own experiences. It does NOT mean, don’t evaluate data. It’s out of respect for the concept that we are all unique, sentient, spiritual beings, with our own history, point of view and self determinism. You are correct in assuming that current rcs’ers are trained to not look or object, and that is precisely why the indie movement is here and thriving. Real Scn’gts, particularly trained when LRH was alive, don’t want to play that. The so called “hard scientists” have a hard time accepting that Scn is part science, because it is intertwined and deeply involved, with unique, naughty, unpredictable, self determined, immortal, spiritual beings who just do what they please when they please. Baby sit a passel of 2 year olds and embrace the theta and the challenge.

Yes, Draco. My point exactly to Scn Africa many times as I email the wins I’m getting on email. It’s as though everyone is scratching for something to say. At one stage, it almost seemed as though there was a script being handed out.

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Hi back Koki! It’s nice to see you here. 🙂

Me too Overrunincalif. I had fabulous wins on TRs, mid 70’s, and as a new auditors we were required to do an hour a day before our first session. Being there was square one.

LOL! Carcha – very graphic and exactly what I was thinking!!

One day soon, the lights will go out (literally) in Clearwater when the cult can no longer pay Flag’s electric bill.

THE END.

i have no idea what you even talking about.

the big hello……… is getting old, BTW.
ciao