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		By: mwesten		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/oh-the-irony/#comment-395876</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2021 00:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/oh-the-irony/#comment-394535&quot;&gt;ISNOINews&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s perfectly reasonable to criticise &quot;non binary&quot; ideology.

The idea that gender is entirely a social construct is so patently absurd and unscientific it deserves widespread ridicule.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/oh-the-irony/#comment-394535">ISNOINews</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s perfectly reasonable to criticise &#8220;non binary&#8221; ideology.</p>
<p>The idea that gender is entirely a social construct is so patently absurd and unscientific it deserves widespread ridicule.</p>
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		By: KatherineINCali		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/oh-the-irony/#comment-395632</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2021 15:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mark’s remarks at the end were utterly perfect and I’m sure they really pissed off the $cientologists, seeing that they’re hypocrites and all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark’s remarks at the end were utterly perfect and I’m sure they really pissed off the $cientologists, seeing that they’re hypocrites and all.</p>
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		By: chuckbeattyx75to03		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/oh-the-irony/#comment-395296</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2021 00:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/oh-the-irony/#comment-394591&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

Keeping Scientology Working policy writing
The Business of Orgs
The Grade Chart (with annotations of what steps are pseudo-therapy, and what steps are exorcism noted by each one)

That&#039;s the most important.   Outsiders (and long term members) have never just boiled it down to what Scientology is, it is quackery pseudo-therapy and quackery exorcism.

The whole &quot;Grade Chart&quot; is the stepladder of pseudo-therapy and exorcism.

The &quot;tech&quot; of Scientology is the quackery.

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Everything Hubbard wrote for Scientology staffs and members, has to do with getting the followers to DO the steps of the quackery and exorcism.

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The OSA writings by Hubbard, give some of Hubbard&#039;s grandest secret strategic thinking, the leaked pack of OSA writings can be thumbed through.

They will warp your brain as you adopt Hubbard&#039;s warped rational.   The OSA writings all based on Hubbard&#039;s writings for the zone OSA today carries out, tie into making Scientology &quot;indispensable&quot; to society.

https://watchfulnavigator.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/osa-nw-orders.pdf

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The above top refs are the problem.

Hubbard was a megalomaniac for real.   

Keeping Scientology Working is the most important writing.

Then translating the &quot;Grade Chart&quot; stepladder, and understanding the pseudo-therapy steps, and the exorcism steps, and understanding that all this pseudo-therapy and exorcism is quackery, then remember Hubbard&#039;s attitude about all his quackery as he defends it in Keeping Scientology Working.

It&#039;s a massive self crippling quackery operation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/oh-the-irony/#comment-394591">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>Keeping Scientology Working policy writing<br />
The Business of Orgs<br />
The Grade Chart (with annotations of what steps are pseudo-therapy, and what steps are exorcism noted by each one)</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the most important.   Outsiders (and long term members) have never just boiled it down to what Scientology is, it is quackery pseudo-therapy and quackery exorcism.</p>
<p>The whole &#8220;Grade Chart&#8221; is the stepladder of pseudo-therapy and exorcism.</p>
<p>The &#8220;tech&#8221; of Scientology is the quackery.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Everything Hubbard wrote for Scientology staffs and members, has to do with getting the followers to DO the steps of the quackery and exorcism.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>The OSA writings by Hubbard, give some of Hubbard&#8217;s grandest secret strategic thinking, the leaked pack of OSA writings can be thumbed through.</p>
<p>They will warp your brain as you adopt Hubbard&#8217;s warped rational.   The OSA writings all based on Hubbard&#8217;s writings for the zone OSA today carries out, tie into making Scientology &#8220;indispensable&#8221; to society.</p>
<p><a href="https://watchfulnavigator.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/osa-nw-orders.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">https://watchfulnavigator.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/osa-nw-orders.pdf</a></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>The above top refs are the problem.</p>
<p>Hubbard was a megalomaniac for real.   </p>
<p>Keeping Scientology Working is the most important writing.</p>
<p>Then translating the &#8220;Grade Chart&#8221; stepladder, and understanding the pseudo-therapy steps, and the exorcism steps, and understanding that all this pseudo-therapy and exorcism is quackery, then remember Hubbard&#8217;s attitude about all his quackery as he defends it in Keeping Scientology Working.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a massive self crippling quackery operation.</p>
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		By: Real		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/oh-the-irony/#comment-394863</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2021 01:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/oh-the-irony/#comment-394804&quot;&gt;Scott H&lt;/a&gt;.

Scott, as they are politicians, they feel that it appeals to their constituents.  Do you really think they would do it if they thought it would piss off the people who vote for them?????????]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/oh-the-irony/#comment-394804">Scott H</a>.</p>
<p>Scott, as they are politicians, they feel that it appeals to their constituents.  Do you really think they would do it if they thought it would piss off the people who vote for them?????????</p>
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		By: Scott H		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2021 23:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/oh-the-irony/#comment-394626&quot;&gt;Real&lt;/a&gt;.

I understand the limitations and the restrictions of the Establishment clause just fine, my question is why they feel the need to start off with a religious interlude at all. City politics, being what they are, are often contentious enough without throwing religion in the mix.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/oh-the-irony/#comment-394626">Real</a>.</p>
<p>I understand the limitations and the restrictions of the Establishment clause just fine, my question is why they feel the need to start off with a religious interlude at all. City politics, being what they are, are often contentious enough without throwing religion in the mix.</p>
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		By: Balletlady		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/oh-the-irony/#comment-394636</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Balletlady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2021 15:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ok ok ok................so now you&#039;ve got me wondering............since &quot;They don’t have any set belief in God&quot;,.....when they are angry just WHAT do they say....................

&quot;XENU DAMNIT&quot;..........................

                                                  as an under schooled &quot;never in&quot;...........I&#039;m curious but NOT COS curious......]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok ok ok&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.so now you&#8217;ve got me wondering&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;since &#8220;They don’t have any set belief in God&#8221;,&#8230;..when they are angry just WHAT do they say&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>&#8220;XENU DAMNIT&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>                                                  as an under schooled &#8220;never in&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..I&#8217;m curious but NOT COS curious&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		By: Real		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/oh-the-irony/#comment-394626</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2021 15:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/oh-the-irony/#comment-394534&quot;&gt;Scott H&lt;/a&gt;.

There is no prohibition against it Scott.  Therefore it is not right nor wrong.  It is up to people who elect the city council to decide.  In the USA the only prohibition is that Congress may not make any laws regarding the establishment of religion.  There is nothing else in the constitution regarding the subject]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/oh-the-irony/#comment-394534">Scott H</a>.</p>
<p>There is no prohibition against it Scott.  Therefore it is not right nor wrong.  It is up to people who elect the city council to decide.  In the USA the only prohibition is that Congress may not make any laws regarding the establishment of religion.  There is nothing else in the constitution regarding the subject</p>
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		By: Weather Watcher		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/oh-the-irony/#comment-394593</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2021 06:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/oh-the-irony/#comment-394527&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;.

Mark, you have a way with words.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/oh-the-irony/#comment-394527">Mark</a>.</p>
<p>Mark, you have a way with words.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/oh-the-irony/#comment-394591</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2021 05:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/oh-the-irony/#comment-394550&quot;&gt;chuckbeattyx75to03&lt;/a&gt;.

Chuck, could you identify what you think are a few of the key policies for laypeople to read in that, in order to get an idea of what Scientology is really up to?  It&#039;s a long slog that few except some diehard critics and an even tinier number of academics are likely to work through.

Average readers need some sort of guide to the most salient parts..  Thanks for the link to it, though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/oh-the-irony/#comment-394550">chuckbeattyx75to03</a>.</p>
<p>Chuck, could you identify what you think are a few of the key policies for laypeople to read in that, in order to get an idea of what Scientology is really up to?  It&#8217;s a long slog that few except some diehard critics and an even tinier number of academics are likely to work through.</p>
<p>Average readers need some sort of guide to the most salient parts..  Thanks for the link to it, though.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2021 05:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I find that you have to catch the weasel-wording and watch carefully for the crafty qualifications in Hubbard&#039;s pontifications like this, in order to see what he really means and where he&#039;s coming from. Looking carefully we can see Hubbard&#039;s and Scientology&#039;s ugly, end-justifies-the-means, might-makes-right worldview poking out between the cracks, for example:

&quot;There are those who appoint one their executioners. Sometimes, for the sake of safety of others, it is necessary to act.&quot;

&quot;If there is any saintly quality, it is not to forgive. &quot;

&quot;Justice, mercy, forgiveness, all are unimportant&quot;

And when he writes about &quot;love&quot; I think it is with the cynical twist of a sadist or psychopath, &quot;this is going to hurt me more than it is you&quot; and &quot;I&#039;m doing this for your own good” style - it does not preclude cruelty and vengeance, as we would normally assume.  As he puts it in another of his cynically qualified &quot;codes,&quot; &quot;never fear to hurt another in a just cause.&quot;

I think this is just intended to bamboozle the &quot;wogs,&quot; and signal followers who understand the subtext to carry on with his policies about &quot;fair game,&quot; &quot;attack, never defend,&quot; &quot;never forget it, always even the score,&quot; and so on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that you have to catch the weasel-wording and watch carefully for the crafty qualifications in Hubbard&#8217;s pontifications like this, in order to see what he really means and where he&#8217;s coming from. Looking carefully we can see Hubbard&#8217;s and Scientology&#8217;s ugly, end-justifies-the-means, might-makes-right worldview poking out between the cracks, for example:</p>
<p>&#8220;There are those who appoint one their executioners. Sometimes, for the sake of safety of others, it is necessary to act.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;If there is any saintly quality, it is not to forgive. &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Justice, mercy, forgiveness, all are unimportant&#8221;</p>
<p>And when he writes about &#8220;love&#8221; I think it is with the cynical twist of a sadist or psychopath, &#8220;this is going to hurt me more than it is you&#8221; and &#8220;I&#8217;m doing this for your own good” style &#8211; it does not preclude cruelty and vengeance, as we would normally assume.  As he puts it in another of his cynically qualified &#8220;codes,&#8221; &#8220;never fear to hurt another in a just cause.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think this is just intended to bamboozle the &#8220;wogs,&#8221; and signal followers who understand the subtext to carry on with his policies about &#8220;fair game,&#8221; &#8220;attack, never defend,&#8221; &#8220;never forget it, always even the score,&#8221; and so on.</p>
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