I’m sorry I don’t really remember. This was in 2003.

What was the EP on OT III for you? How did you know there were no more BTs? What did the meter show?

“Hi Thetaclear, I am so sorry for your loss regarding your brother.What you said about wanting to help loved ones cross over resonated greatly with me.”

TC : Thanks for your kind and warm words , dear.

“I in my own small way feel what you wanted and what you are doing now will reap far greater spiritual rewards down the path.”

TC : Thanks .

“I don’t think I joined SO for the science fiction aspect of it,although I had read all the SF stuff Ron wrote before DMSMH,but the reason I joined was more subtle.I really felt that some how I could help mankind,forget Big Leaugue Sales that I flunked constantly in the SO,this was more a magnetic hypnotic love missile bombed pull that I had ” come back” to help.”

TC : I totally understand you ; I think we still have the chance to help others. By first helping them to understand the insidious nature of cults ; and then by being a good example about what real understanding , tolerance , and love for your fellows beings is all about. It doesn’t really take a lot of effort or training to do something effective for others. By just really listening to anybody , by just being there for him/her , by just willingly and affectionately acknowledging their comms ; one can do wonders for them.

So don’t bite into this idea from Scn that it takes great processes , and advanced procedures to help anyone. That was the first trap of it all ; that we desperately needed help.

“The awful twist was I came back as a SO slave.I’m still not over that betrayal.Love Aways Peter,Ann B”

TC : Yo soon will be , dear ; I can see that. You are a strong spirit.

Much love ,
TC

Reason : ” I had a hard time to follow the argument. Is it that “Scientology is a fraud as a whole?” , ” Is it that LRH was a liar and lied all the time?” or “Is it that OT IX or OT X does not exist ?”

Who is Bob Anderson anyway? What are his achievements and background ? Class IX?”

To answer that – but ONLY from my own perspective on things – I don’t think that Scn is a fraud as a whole , or that LRH was a lair all the time.

The problem is, and has always been since its creation, that LRH made a bunch of claims totally unsupported by a sound scientific methodology where the Scientific Method was the standard guide to analyze results and to drive conclusions from.

LRH possesses, from my perspective, an incredible scientific mind ; the mind of a genius indeed. But he didn’t take advantage of it because his own cult(ish) and authoritarian approach to knowledge, totally blinded him , and made him delusional.

Many of the Truths that Scn DOES possesses, were not LRH’s own discoveries, but rather a compilation of already discovered laws (by ancient philosophies such as Buddhism, Vedism, etc) put in layman’s terms so that the common “uninitiated” individual could be able to duplicate them and use them in his daily life. And there exactly lies the grandiosity of Scn , in the aspects where it is highly workable.

But instead of validating his sources of knowledge (which he did more or less up to 1954) , he proclaimed himself, even if insidiously so, as a sort of Messiah possessing , by his own virtues , the knowledge to understand everybody about life and livingness. He was THE “Savior” we all humans needed in order to free ourselves of the common tribulations inherent to living a human existence.

He started on a course to invalidate (even if cleverly masked, many times) all prior philosophies and religions , specially Christianism, upon which he was obsessed. He started to assume a totally arbitrary and authoritarian attitude towards knowledge , and Scn became the ONLY true religious philosophy containing actual Truth and freeing capacities.

He made VERY sure through his policy called “Keeping Scientology Working” series #1 (which he made mandatory to be read as the FIRST policy in EVERY Scn major course) , that nobody used nothing except Scn, and in a totally unadulterated way , even punishing those that dared to challenge his assertions. Those that did so, were called “squirrels” , a concept that compare with “blasphemy” in Christianism ; a sin of great magnitude.

With that policy he totally knocked out any “competition” , and made sure that he had the loyalty of his parishioners by instilling in them a fear of getting lost into total oblivion in an eternal darkness with no chance at becoming free , should they dared not to follow as EXACTLY written, the alleged ONLY path to salvation.

He alleged that he was the only one that somehow had managed to have raised about his bank, while we little insignificant humans , still under the other-determined control of a ferocious “Reactive Mind” , were only capable of messing everything up, and only capable of agreeing on bank-based ideas. Thus, he secured the total trust of others in him being right about everything he ever wrote about ; his words were Truth personified.

Throughout the years he claimed that Scn was capable of bringing about incredible states of beingness never before having been achieved on Earth. States with god-like attributes such as a “Theta Clear” , which is a being that knowing with total certainty that he is a spiritual being, is capable of living and operating outside his body , while having total perception of his surroundings w/out the need of his physical eyes. He ( this Theta Clear) was allegedly able to look at his body from a distance, and capable to operate it while remaining stably outside of it, a requisite to state being called a “Theta Clear” instead of just a “Thetan Exterior” (spirit).

According to his lectures from the ’51-’55 era, a “Theta Clear” was capable of remaining outside his body with full perceptions as a spiritual being , no matter what was happening with his body. And he (a Theta Clear) was allegedly able to “move” as a spirit , and going to any place (including near the Sun , and other places across the galaxy) while leaving his body right there laying in the space where it was.

After 5-6 different and “improved” versions of the procedure intended to produce “Theta Clears” – the “Standard Operating Procedure” (SOPs for short) – no stable “Theta Clear” was ever produced. There isn’t any evidence as such as to any PC actually having at least exteriorized at will during the process , much less about having “roamed” across the galaxy as the “Step I” of almost each of the versions was allegedly intended for.

I’ve only been able to find no more than 3 cases in my long research that allegedly experienced some exteriorization phenomena, and according to them, it was very brief (lasting only days) and highly undefined and unstable. 3 cases! in years of research.

He abandoned that route and approach , and concentrated on producing stable Clears , which by his own admission , they were never actually brought about , as McMaster was declared the “First actual Clear” by LRH in 1966 , using the technology of a procedure called the “Clearing Course” in which hundreds of items called “implanted GPM items” are called off continuously until the E-meter needle no longer falls to the right when the item is called off.

Those items are “implanted ideas” (like , “You must survive” – “You mustn’t survive , “Stop a beginning self to invent an ended self” , “You must construct a picture machine – “You must not construct a picture machine” , etc) that were allegedly implanted on us as spirits w/out bodies millions or billions of years ago by suppressive beings who wanted to get rid of non-conformists , revolutionaries , and key government terminals that threatened their survival.

By repeating each of those lines (the ideas) , one allegedly freed oneself of their aberrative effect , and was then capable of getting rid of our “Reactive Minds”.

But even those “Clearing Course Clears” were not able to demonstrate in actual practice , all the attributes that LRH had assigned them on his definition and description of a Clear.

An “OT” (Operating Thetan) was a super being capable of being cause (able to act , to function as a being) over matter , energy , space , time , thought , and life. In other words , one would become a spirit capable of operating fully in life w/out the need of any mechanical means , including needing any bodies. “The Bridge to total Freedom” was the steps one should follow to achieve such an incredible state of beingness. But the man who allegedly researched all those steps by fully doing them on himself first , didn’t have any more special “abilities” regarding that than your “normal” individual possesses. He died of a stroke , totally unable to “be Cause” over his body. ]

He was hiding from the government at the end , being protected by his loyal parishioners ,like the young DM , to avoid being indicted. For that the “All Clear Unit” was created around 1980-81 (I am sure that Mike knows a lot more than me about this issue) under the command of commander David Miscavige. All ties to LRH were cut , and only 3-5 people ? were allowed to remain in contact with LRH. If he were this amazing OT that Scientologists thought he was , the government and confronting them wouldn’t have been any big issue for him.

To totally mask LRH’s incapacity to even operate his own body while being totally inside of it , and to make all Scientologists believe that LRH had achieved such an advanced state that his physical body was now an impediment to his incredible spiritual state , DM , together with Pat Broeker , and a bunch of lunatics whose names I don’t even know , orchestrated an event to fool all of us into believing all the false claims that the founder had made throughout all the past years. This event was held at the Palladium at Hollywood in 1986. here are some excerpts of the transcription of the speeches :

Miscavage : “I’ve very happy that you could all make it to this important briefing this evening. In 1980 LRH moved off the lines so that he could continue his writ-ings and research without any distractions. ”

“For many years Ron had said that if he was given the time, and if others wore their hats and did their jobs in expanding the Church, he would be able to concentrate on and complete all of his researches into the upper OT levels, so that the bridge would be laid out in full for all of us. Over the past six years LRH has been intensively researching the upper bands of OT…. Approximately two weeks ago, he completed all of his researches he set out to do.”

[The crowd, awed and delighted, responds with oohs and aahs and abundant applause. Commander Miscavage continues: ]

“He has now moved on to the next level of OT research. It’s a level beyond anything any of us ever imagined. This level is in fact done in an exterior state. Meaning that it is done completely exterior from the body. At this level of OT, the body is nothing more than in impediment and encumbrance to any further gain as an OT. Thus at 2000 hours, the 24th of January, AD36,t L. Ron Hubbard discarded the body he had used in this life time for 74 years 10 months and 11 days. …”

“He thought it was important that Scientologists be the first to become aware of this fact. …The body is a physical object. It is not the being himself. The being we know as L. Ron Hubbard still exists; however, the body could no longer serve his purposes. His decision was made at complete cause….He has simply moved on to his next step. …”

“LRH, in fact, used this lifetime in the body we knew, to accomplish what no man has ever accomplished. He unlocked the mysteries of life, and gave us the tools so we could free ourselves and our fellow man. L. Ron Hubbard completed everything he set out to do and more. The fact that he causatively, willing]y discarded the body, after it was no longer useful to him, signifies his ultimate success: the con-quest of life that he embarked upon half century ago.”

[Miscavage begins to clap, slowly almost mechanically. His ever-present fierce stare becoming even more intense. The packed Palla-dium bursts into applause during which the crowd is led in a series of Hip-hip hoorays! The applause lasts for some twenty minutes until Miscavage finally stops, permitting the rest to do the same.]

[Commander David Miscavage is obviously pleased and, perhaps, a little relieved. Miscavage introduces Earle Cooley, Boston lawyer and recently proclaimed “Scientologist.” He is a large man with a face reminiscent of a well-fed, aging Irish boxer. Cooley announces that he has seen to the execution of the wishes expressed by Hubbard in his will; that he has contacted the coroner’s office and the funeral parlor, and that the body was cremated the next day at three P.M. (less than 24 hours after his death). ]

COOLEY:

“There are several very important matters that I wish to bring to your attention. First, the body of L. Ron Hubbard was sound and strong and fully capable of serving this Mighty Thetan [Scientology word for Spiritual Being] for many years, had that suited his purpose. …Thus, by the decision to continue his work outside the confines of his body, and by the decision to do it now, L. Ron Hubbard has given the ultimate expression of his love for you. He has, in effect, told us the Church is in good hands: “You can do it all. Your future is assured. Secure in this knowledge I go about my work elsewhere. You have all of the tools. You have all of the resources to take this planet and to save Mankind. “Support and rally behind your leaders. Together you will win the total victory and achieve the ultimate goals of Scientology. Take what I have given you with my love.”

And we were all fooled , and withheld the true information that LRH had just simple died of a stroke while being already totally insane , and that he had actually been under drugs all this time for his chronic pancreatitis condition. We were also led to believe that LRH had left his research into the state of full OT totally completed , and ready for all of us to use , as is greatest gift to humanity : Total Freedom ; the end of the endless death-birth cycle. And the cult next leader , dear DM , assumed power by cutting all heads he could in the way , including that of Pat Broeker. The rest is a very well known and documented story.

So , I leave it up to you , dear Reason , to be the judge of how much LRH lied to us , and how much of Scn is a fraud.

ML,
TC

“Who is Bob Anderson anyway?” He is some robot in the S.O.

“What are his achievements and background ? Class IX?” Hmm, he has been stupid enough to be fooled for 30-45 years by El Con’s promises DESPITE experiencing the non-validity of same. I think he is a NUTS C/S.

Who is Bob Anderson anyway? What are his achievements and background ? Class IX?

Hi Thetaclear, I am so sorry for your loss regarding your brother.What you said about wanting to help loved ones cross over resonated greatly with me.I in my own small way feel what you wanted and what you are doing now will reap far greater spiritual rewards down the path.I don’t think I joined SO for the science fiction aspect of it,although I had read all the SF stuff Ron wrote before DMSMH,but the reason I joined was more subtle.I really felt that some how I could help mankind,forget Big Leaugue Sales that I flunked constantly in the SO,this was more a magnetic hypnotic love missile bombed pull that I had ” come back” to help.The awful twist was I came back as a SO slave.I’m still not over that betrayal.Love Aways Peter,Ann B

Hi Roger Hornaday, I second your post.David cannot have any of our ice cream And I can be a fiend about ice cream.XO Ann B.

Thanks, dear RogerHornaday ; most kind.

ML,
TC

Thetaclear you clearly aren’t taking any prisoners! Reading yours and Mike’s responses to this matter was like eating Ben and Jerry’s Ice Cream! 🙂