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		By: Deborah Murphy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah Murphy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2019 14:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ambassadors-code/#comment-35790&quot;&gt;Old School&lt;/a&gt;.

Agree!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ambassadors-code/#comment-35790">Old School</a>.</p>
<p>Agree!</p>
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		By: Old School		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2014 19:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For people who have done VIII ( and thus KNOW that it is total crap) to continue on regging people shows either A) EXTREME stupidity or, B) criminality.  There is no &quot;C&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For people who have done VIII ( and thus KNOW that it is total crap) to continue on regging people shows either A) EXTREME stupidity or, B) criminality.  There is no &#8220;C&#8221;</p>
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		By: thegman77		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ambassadors-code/#comment-35754</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2014 12:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ambassadors-code/#comment-35728&quot;&gt;MJ&lt;/a&gt;.

Nor very fit to be loose amongst the general population!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ambassadors-code/#comment-35728">MJ</a>.</p>
<p>Nor very fit to be loose amongst the general population!</p>
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		By: FOTF2012		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ambassadors-code/#comment-35744</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FOTF2012]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2014 05:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ambassadors-code/#comment-35677&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

Heaven can wait, when OT is right now. 

My mantra remains: show just one DMSMH clear or just one OT VIII by original definition -- objective as well as subjective. 

The emperor has no clothes. Miscavige&#039;s finest schemes are invisible threads spun on an imaginary loom.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ambassadors-code/#comment-35677">Cindy</a>.</p>
<p>Heaven can wait, when OT is right now. </p>
<p>My mantra remains: show just one DMSMH clear or just one OT VIII by original definition &#8212; objective as well as subjective. </p>
<p>The emperor has no clothes. Miscavige&#8217;s finest schemes are invisible threads spun on an imaginary loom.</p>
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		By: Pepper		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ambassadors-code/#comment-35743</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pepper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2014 04:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ambassadors-code/#comment-35692&quot;&gt;Pepper&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Odd, 

Thanks for that, it is hopeful. I came into Scn shortly before GATI and I saw an extreme change in the manners and behavior of public and staff alike over time.

I&#039;ve met several people who were on the Apollo and in the SO for a long time, who are out now. 

The one thing I commonly hear from them is how fun Scn use to be and the great times they had in the good old days. As they reminisce, I can see that they long for something which no longer exists.  Thanks to you know who. 

I have had the pleasure of meeting a couple of OT&#039;s as you describe, but they are a rare breed now and are simply not found around the orgs these days.  Most today have little training (Solo course only) and are DM drones. They aren&#039;t trained because public are told that a Solo course completion is just as good as a ClassV.  I beg to differ because I&#039;ve done both sides.  

Public are pushed onto OT levels instead of training because its more lucrative.  I had been told many times while training that I wasn&#039;t doing the right thing by not going to Flag and heard the word &quot;duty&quot; mixed with &quot;Command Intention&quot;.  You need to have a pretty thick skin and a good sense of self if you want to survive that group with your personality intact]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ambassadors-code/#comment-35692">Pepper</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Odd, </p>
<p>Thanks for that, it is hopeful. I came into Scn shortly before GATI and I saw an extreme change in the manners and behavior of public and staff alike over time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve met several people who were on the Apollo and in the SO for a long time, who are out now. </p>
<p>The one thing I commonly hear from them is how fun Scn use to be and the great times they had in the good old days. As they reminisce, I can see that they long for something which no longer exists.  Thanks to you know who. </p>
<p>I have had the pleasure of meeting a couple of OT&#8217;s as you describe, but they are a rare breed now and are simply not found around the orgs these days.  Most today have little training (Solo course only) and are DM drones. They aren&#8217;t trained because public are told that a Solo course completion is just as good as a ClassV.  I beg to differ because I&#8217;ve done both sides.  </p>
<p>Public are pushed onto OT levels instead of training because its more lucrative.  I had been told many times while training that I wasn&#8217;t doing the right thing by not going to Flag and heard the word &#8220;duty&#8221; mixed with &#8220;Command Intention&#8221;.  You need to have a pretty thick skin and a good sense of self if you want to survive that group with your personality intact</p>
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		By: MJ		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ambassadors-code/#comment-35740</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2014 03:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ambassadors-code/#comment-35733&quot;&gt;Live Zombie&lt;/a&gt;.

Command intention is such a vague concept at this point. It seems like whatever Davey wants done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ambassadors-code/#comment-35733">Live Zombie</a>.</p>
<p>Command intention is such a vague concept at this point. It seems like whatever Davey wants done.</p>
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		By: Live Zombie		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ambassadors-code/#comment-35733</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Live Zombie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2014 02:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From the Code of an OT Ambassador

As an OT Ambassador I promise to follow the Code of an Ot Ambassador, to bring about the creation of an OT civilization.

I think there are and have many trying to bring about an “OT” Civilization if I understand this concept right.

http://www.biographyonline.net/people/people-who-changed-world.html 

Guess the difference is that if a true “OT” Ambassador does not follow “Command Intention” they become an “SP” in certain circles in the world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Code of an OT Ambassador</p>
<p>As an OT Ambassador I promise to follow the Code of an Ot Ambassador, to bring about the creation of an OT civilization.</p>
<p>I think there are and have many trying to bring about an “OT” Civilization if I understand this concept right.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.biographyonline.net/people/people-who-changed-world.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.biographyonline.net/people/people-who-changed-world.html</a> </p>
<p>Guess the difference is that if a true “OT” Ambassador does not follow “Command Intention” they become an “SP” in certain circles in the world.</p>
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		By: MJ		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ambassadors-code/#comment-35728</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2014 01:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ambassadors-code/#comment-35725&quot;&gt;Pepper&lt;/a&gt;.

This man is not fit to lead.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ambassadors-code/#comment-35725">Pepper</a>.</p>
<p>This man is not fit to lead.</p>
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		By: Odd Thomas		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ambassadors-code/#comment-35727</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2014 01:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ambassadors-code/#comment-35692&quot;&gt;Pepper&lt;/a&gt;.

Pepper --

When I first got into SCN in 1972, the OTs that I interacted with reminded me greatly of Buddhist monks. Almost all were trained auditors and there was this sense of serenity about them, that certainly pulled me into their orbit. They were balanced and sought only to help others without feeling the need to judge or evaluate at all. Then as the years passed, the OTs became less and less saintly and more and more judgmental. 

The &quot;OTs&quot; that you interacted with Pepper, were in a way, false prophets. They spoke of things that they truly had neither attained nor fully understood. When reading through the above Pledge of Allegiance to Davey, I get this altered sense of reality, like everything OT that one might want to achieve is somehow &quot;outside&quot; of who we are and what we do. As if being OT is purely a functional doingness. Reg money, create Ideal Orgs, create an OT movement here on earth. 

What about being OT? Raising one&#039;s reach and breadth of compassion. Striving to understand all people and granting them the beingness that we are seeking ourselves. Davey the Artful Dodger, is once again turning a theta concept into a MEST construct. OTs are things, dutiful things that listen and obey and act in unison. What bollocks!

Odd]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ambassadors-code/#comment-35692">Pepper</a>.</p>
<p>Pepper &#8212;</p>
<p>When I first got into SCN in 1972, the OTs that I interacted with reminded me greatly of Buddhist monks. Almost all were trained auditors and there was this sense of serenity about them, that certainly pulled me into their orbit. They were balanced and sought only to help others without feeling the need to judge or evaluate at all. Then as the years passed, the OTs became less and less saintly and more and more judgmental. </p>
<p>The &#8220;OTs&#8221; that you interacted with Pepper, were in a way, false prophets. They spoke of things that they truly had neither attained nor fully understood. When reading through the above Pledge of Allegiance to Davey, I get this altered sense of reality, like everything OT that one might want to achieve is somehow &#8220;outside&#8221; of who we are and what we do. As if being OT is purely a functional doingness. Reg money, create Ideal Orgs, create an OT movement here on earth. </p>
<p>What about being OT? Raising one&#8217;s reach and breadth of compassion. Striving to understand all people and granting them the beingness that we are seeking ourselves. Davey the Artful Dodger, is once again turning a theta concept into a MEST construct. OTs are things, dutiful things that listen and obey and act in unison. What bollocks!</p>
<p>Odd</p>
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		By: Pepper		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ambassadors-code/#comment-35725</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pepper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2014 01:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t this &quot;Code&quot; just a little grandiose?

Everything always has to be big and have a sweeping effect across lifetimes and universes.  Making a person responsible for everything and everyone?  Please.

It&#039;s just more mind-fuck fodder to put Scientology &quot;first&quot; and self, family and all the other dynamics in the toilet.  And telling people who and what they are and making them read it aloud in unison is called Hypnosis.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this &#8220;Code&#8221; just a little grandiose?</p>
<p>Everything always has to be big and have a sweeping effect across lifetimes and universes.  Making a person responsible for everything and everyone?  Please.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just more mind-fuck fodder to put Scientology &#8220;first&#8221; and self, family and all the other dynamics in the toilet.  And telling people who and what they are and making them read it aloud in unison is called Hypnosis.</p>
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